The most 'metal' of the subgenres

Adveser

Thrashtilldeth wrote
You didn't answer the question.

I said power metal does it for me in the original post. Black metal's expressed sentiments would have been the most metal in my opinion when I was 16.

The real answer is whatever is the closest to what Dio was doing.

North_From_Here

Thrashtilldeth wrote
noodles wrote
Probably tradtional doom metal because metal is heavy and heavyness is slow+riffs, but trad doom isn't as idiosyncratic as death/doom or sludge.Also it's my favourite.Thrash captures the aggressive and fun side of metal but I dunno. Angry isn't the same as grumpy and being grumpy is a pretty big part of metal imo
Metal is all about anger, righteous or otherwise. Grumpy is for emo bands.

Whiny is for emo bands, being grumpy is an essential part of getting old. Anyhow, I think this topic is odd, bordering on irrelevant, and serves as a nice topic for those that enjoy bashing black/death/doom metal.

traptunderice

noodles wrote
Thrash captures the aggressive and fun side of metal but I dunno. Angry isn't the same as grumpy and being grumpy is a pretty big part of metal imo

Topic is grumpy thrash metal. Go!

noodles

Thrashtilldeth wrote
noodles wrote
Probably tradtional doom metal because metal is heavy and heavyness is slow+riffs, but trad doom isn't as idiosyncratic as death/doom or sludge.Also it's my favourite.Thrash captures the aggressive and fun side of metal but I dunno. Angry isn't the same as grumpy and being grumpy is a pretty big part of metal imo
Metal is all about anger, righteous or otherwise. Grumpy is for emo bands.

no!

grumpy = <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHCXbqoQt7k">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHCXbqoQt7k</a>
emo = whiny = <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rOcYi_y0a8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rOcYi_y0a8</a>

Thrashtildeth

Adveser wrote
The real answer is whatever is the closest to what Dio was doing.

Adveser, old boy, I'd totally misjudged you. You're alright.

Adveser

Thrashtilldeth wrote
Adveser wrote
The real answer is whatever is the closest to what Dio was doing.
Adveser, old boy, I'd totally misjudged you. You're alright.

Dio created metal as far s I'm concerned. I think the maiden/priest being the real start of 100% metal is correct. Except that dio was really doing all that same sort of thing since he started Rainbow with Blackmore. Yeah, I'll get some shit for not crediting Sabbath, but then you have to include BOC and a thousand other bands that were not really bonafide 100% metal with absolutely no hard rock pretensions or asperations for pop/rock success.

Dio created metal's style of singing end-of-story for me, even using tamed down versions of the harsher styles and overblown operatic styles at the opposite end, though he wouldn't take it in the Bel Canto directions some others would like Tate...

AlexandeR

Adveser wrote
Thrashtilldeth wrote
Adveser wrote
The real answer is whatever is the closest to what Dio was doing.
Adveser, old boy, I'd totally misjudged you. You're alright.
Dio created metal as far s I'm concerned. I think the maiden/priest being the real start of 100% metal is correct. Except that dio was really doing all that same sort of thing since he started Rainbow with Blackmore. Yeah, I'll get some shit for not crediting Sabbath, but then you have to include BOC and a thousand other bands that were not really bonafide 100% metal with absolutely no hard rock pretensions or asperations for pop/rock success.Dio created metal's style of singing end-of-story for me, even using tamed down versions of the harsher styles and overblown operatic styles at the opposite end, though he wouldn't take it in the Bel Canto directions some others would like Tate...

I think Halford is the one who created the metal's style of singing.

VICTIIIIIIIM OOOOF CHAAAAAAAAAANGEEEEEES.

:dio:

MetalStorm

AlexandeR wrote
Adveser wrote
Thrashtilldeth wrote
Adveser wrote
The real answer is whatever is the closest to what Dio was doing.
Adveser, old boy, I'd totally misjudged you. You're alright.
Dio created metal as far s I'm concerned. I think the maiden/priest being the real start of 100% metal is correct. Except that dio was really doing all that same sort of thing since he started Rainbow with Blackmore. Yeah, I'll get some shit for not crediting Sabbath, but then you have to include BOC and a thousand other bands that were not really bonafide 100% metal with absolutely no hard rock pretensions or asperations for pop/rock success.Dio created metal's style of singing end-of-story for me, even using tamed down versions of the harsher styles and overblown operatic styles at the opposite end, though he wouldn't take it in the Bel Canto directions some others would like Tate...
I think Halford is the one who created the metal's style of singing.VICTIIIIIIIM OOOOF CHAAAAAAAAAANGEEEEEES.:dio:

Maybe or some say Robert Plant started it with his screaming style than followed by Ozzy and Dio.

If anything Halford perfected it to the ultimate style.

The_Annoying_Frenchman

Don't forget David Byron and Ian Gillan !

AlexandeR

The Annoying Frenchman wrote
Don't forget David Byron and Ian Gillan !

Halford pwned those asses (literally).

MetalStorm

AlexandeR wrote
The Annoying Frenchman wrote
Don't forget David Byron and Ian Gillan !
Halford pwned those asses (literally).

This I agree :dio: :dio:

The_Annoying_Frenchman

AlexandeR wrote
The Annoying Frenchman wrote
Don't forget David Byron and Ian Gillan !
Halford pwned those asses (literally).

Whatever... :rolleyes:

Thrashtildeth

Halford was/is a better singer than Gillan, but Gillan had more to do with helping to establish the metal vocal style, even if only because of chronology.

Gotta agree with Adveser though that Dio is the main man in this argument.

Adveser

I guess some people haven't heard Elf. Ronnie's singing style was clearly established in 1972 and since he had been around so long by then even, it's hard to imagine it being much different. Elf wasn't even really a metal band. It was like some kind of Fozzy the bear honly tonk band or something, but thatvoice had a destiny from the get-go that screamed to be in a band that was making the heaviest music. Ronnie's aesthetic tastes were firmly metal before that entire thing was established too. He looked like a goof in the seventies like everyone else, but naming his band "Elf" IS telling of his personality. You never have to question his sincerity, but if you asked Gillan in 75 if he wanted to be a pop star or an obscure footnote in mainstream music, I couldn't answer for him. You can for Dio. You know he wouldn't even consider compromising himself for more success. The others did at various points. Though to clean that argument up I would say commercial rainbow was not that, that was the purple reunion IMO was the compromise for Ritchie.

falconpaawnch

Dio is the guy I think of when someone mentions metal.
Or Halford.

The_Annoying_Frenchman

I think of Iommi.

AlexandeR

The Annoying Frenchman wrote
I think of Iommi.

I think of you :wub:

MetalStorm

AlexandeR wrote
The Annoying Frenchman wrote
I think of Iommi.
I think of you :wub:

:lol:

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