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 Post subject: Please Tell Me This Website Is A Joke
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:51 pm 
Even as a Christian, I find this website downright scary:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

Just read "The Tragic Life Of Freddie Mercury" under "Devil Music" if you want to see how mean-spirited and hateful supposed "good Christians" can really be.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:52 pm 
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isn't the south a wonderfull place?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:56 pm 
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That website's awesome- I love the picture of the Pope holding the Bible with the devil behind him


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unknownkadath666 wrote:
isn't the south a wonderfull place?
Yes.

There is no way that site is anything but a joke.


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Wow ! Something to laugh at when I'm down. Thanks for the link mate :wink:


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Haha, the Pope is a Satanist? LOL!!!


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I rather like the part about how evil all non-King James versions of the Bible are Satanic. Are they aware that the Bible was not originally written in English at all?

I don't think it's a joke. WAY too much effort for a joke. It's ranting, raving, and plain stupid, but it's done too well to be a joke.

I think some people should enjoy this website for the degree to which the author(s) hate the Catholic Church.


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So what sect are these guys from?


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So what sect are these guys from?


Probably either Baptist or Evangelical. Those are where most "Religious Fanatics" come from.


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Emmerder wrote:
I rather like the part about how evil all non-King James versions of the Bible are Satanic. Are they aware that the Bible was not originally written in English at all?

I don't think it's a joke. WAY too much effort for a joke. It's ranting, raving, and plain stupid, but it's done too well to be a joke.

I think some people should enjoy this website for the degree to which the author(s) hate the Catholic Church.


Agreed, no one goes that far in a joke


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If you've ever been in contact with rabid Christian nutters, like I have, you'll know that there are people that think like this. :rolleyes:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolutio ... lution.htm

How many others were mentally playing High On Fire and headbanging whilst reading this? :dio:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:51 pm 
Zad wrote:
If you've ever been in contact with rabid Christian nutters, like I have, you'll know that there are people that think like this. :rolleyes:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolutio ... lution.htm

How many others were mentally playing High On Fire and headbanging whilst reading this? :dio:


I read that too and couldn't believe it. Granted, I don't believe in evolution (if you think about it, it's really no more of a "fact" than Creationism, which I don't totally believe in either btw). But I do think Evolution is something everybody needs to learn at some point in life. It's currently the scientifically accepted account on how mankind came to be. And I think it's necessary that kids learn it so that they're aware of both scientific and biblical accounts on creation, and then they can come to their own conclusions and theories about the world. Creationism is also something I think everybody should learn at one point in life.

Basically, I think evolution should be left to science classes, anthropological studies, etc. while creationism should be left to religion classes, churches, etc. Because creationism is a faith, and evolution is a scientific theory (and, contrary to what some may say, I believe God and Science can and do coexist). Seperate issues/topics that should be left to seperate learning environments.


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Zad wrote:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolutio ... lution.htm

How many others were mentally playing High On Fire and headbanging whilst reading this? :dio:


Hehe, yes :lol: .

Did any UK posters see that debate on creationism Sunday morning, got me right riled up, it did.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:34 pm 
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Zad wrote:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolutio ... lution.htm

How many others were mentally playing High On Fire and headbanging whilst reading this? :dio:


Hehe, yes :lol: .

Did any UK posters see that debate on creationism Sunday morning, got me right riled up, it did.


What actually happened during the debate?


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
And I think it's necessary that kids learn it so that they're aware of both scientific and biblical accounts on creation, and then they can come to their own conclusions and theories about the world. Creationism is also something I think everybody should learn at one point in life.


I agree with you this far. If both are taught without bias by intelligent people capable of answering the inevitable questions (and that's a hurdle too far, probably...) and the children make the decision what to believe rather than their parents... progress.

Seinfeld26 wrote:
Basically, I think evolution should be left to science classes, anthropological studies, etc. while creationism should be left to religion classes, churches, etc. Because creationism is a faith, and evolution is a scientific theory (and, contrary to what some may say, I believe God and Science can and do coexist). Seperate issues/topics that should be left to seperate learning environments


I tend to agree with Dawkins about religion and science actually co-existing - if you truly believe in an immortal paradise that can be attained by following a certain lifestyle, then you'll never have a truly scientific way of mind, there'll always be that vital little part of your mind closed off...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:31 pm 
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
And I think it's necessary that kids learn it so that they're aware of both scientific and biblical accounts on creation, and then they can come to their own conclusions and theories about the world. Creationism is also something I think everybody should learn at one point in life.


I agree with you this far. If both are taught without bias by intelligent people capable of answering the inevitable questions (and that's a hurdle too far, probably...) and the children make the decision what to believe rather than their parents... progress.


I myself actually remember learning about evolution in grade school, and immediately noticing how it somewhat contradicts at least the Biblical interpretation of Creationism that I learned when reading the Book Of Genesis as a kid. Since the Scriptual interpretation of Creationism (note: there are many interpretations of it) assumes we were all fully developed thinking men at birth, while Evolution of course doesn't.

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Basically, I think evolution should be left to science classes, anthropological studies, etc. while creationism should be left to religion classes, churches, etc. Because creationism is a faith, and evolution is a scientific theory (and, contrary to what some may say, I believe God and Science can and do coexist). Seperate issues/topics that should be left to seperate learning environments


I tend to agree with Dawkins about religion and science actually co-existing - if you truly believe in an immortal paradise that can be attained by following a certain lifestyle, then you'll never have a truly scientific way of mind, there'll always be that vital little part of your mind closed off...


To an extent, this is true. As I said previously, the Bible is a faith and at least partial historical account. It's not a Science. And, of course, religious Scientists will be at least partially skewed by their own biases. But it goes both ways. Much like how religious scientists are at least partially biased toward their own beliefs, so are atheistic scientists. And who knows? It's possible (not inevitable, but possible) that discovering the split between the Earth and God/Heaven will somehow become its own branch of Science in the distant future. It's basically impossible to be a scientist and not have some kind of personal bias skew your observations/findings. And I don't mean just with religion, but also with things like social expectations (trivia: LDL cholesterol actually has health BENEFITS, but a lot of nutritional scientists won't tell you this).

Unfortunately, right now there's no real physical way of proving/disproving God's existence. So whether or not you believe He exists is purely left to faith, personal logic, and a person's natural ways of thinking. And this, of course, is why debates over whether or not He exists are often so heated and have been for hundreds of years.


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From a strictly practical perspective, I don't see how believing in heaven (or God or hell or whatever) prevents anyone from being scientific. It's like trying to research the universe's state prior to the Big Bang - it is impossible to know and so it becomes a known unknown, basically left alone because there's nothing you can do about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:50 pm 
Emmerder wrote:
From a strictly practical perspective, I don't see how believing in heaven (or God or hell or whatever) prevents anyone from being scientific. It's like trying to research the universe's state prior to the Big Bang - it is impossible to know and so it becomes a known unknown, basically left alone because there's nothing you can do about it.


Well said. :)


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