Metal Reviews

yeah that sucks...i love the halo games...but is it worth buying a new 360?

and there's also Mario Kart and DK Racing, and i heard that Conquer's BFD was an awesome game too.

there were tons of great games on the N64 (and the gamecube) but all the idiots called them "kiddie games", and Nintendo was too fucking stupid not to try to get games like PES and GTA on their systems. they can have all the best first- and second-party games they want, without franchises like those it will never get them anywhere.

The cartridge unit, and Nintendo's own censorship, were probably the two biggest factors in this problem. I'm going to write this editorial on Epinions today. I don't know when I'll have it finished (tomorrow, may be?). But when I do, I may post it in this thread. And then you all can see what a big video game geek I am.

Maybe it's a little bit underrated, but it's really not a good console. Both the 64 and the Gamecube (and the Wii actually) suffer from the same problems, Nintendo are trying to please the masses by making really easy, shallow games. I know there are some amazing games for all three of those systems, there's just not enough to compete with the Playstation.

Oh yeah, the Wiimote thing is pure gimmick, just had to say that.

Edit: Did you guys see the Nintendo press conference on E3? Check out Wii-fit if you didn't, it really shows the difference between Nintendo and the other console developers. It's funny, in the press conference the Nintendo people were building everyone up for this supposedly amazing finale, and in the end they reveal this ridiculous "game" called Wii-fit.

The Wii's certainly worth getting, but don't expect a full consloe upgrade.

i don't think the Wii-mote is a gimmick. for strategy, shooting and even racing games there is great potential in such a remote, on the other hand they ahve to understand that some games simply work better with a normal controller.

and yeah, releasing accessible games is a good idea for attracting a more casual crowd, but they seem to forget the more dedicated gamers. i mean Zelda looks awesome and Metroid will probably rule, but besides that...

I was just really disappointed after watching all those previews and hearing all the hype about how revolutionary the Wii would be to gaming, and after actually playing it realizing that it doesn't work as well as they said it would. In terms of the technology it uses there's not that much that they'll be able to do with it. Take sword-fighting games for example, when you swing the wiimote the game recognizes the movement and executes the sword-swing in game, but that's all that it does, you can't really hit anyone in the game by yourself, you're just triggering the action.

It's basically the same thing as pushing a button, and personally I'm already tired of using the wiimote and all these games pretending like you're actually doing something really revolutionary, that's why I think it's a gimmick.

I'm still looking forward to the deeper games that are being released later on, like Metroid Prime 3 for example and of course fun games like Super Smash, all I hope is that they won't make the games too reliant on the wiimote, just give me the games minus the gimmick and I'll be happy.

Wii + Beer = funxorks

They brought out a Wii version of Resi 4 recently (it was reviewed in an Aussie game magazine, anyway, dunno when it came out), and apparently the remote works awsomely with, and its not just a port, but it has tweaks and stuff to suit the new system. Awsome.
I've been playing it again on PS2, finished it for the 4th time I think. That game never gets old.

Seems like everyone bought a wii and no one bought a ps3. Does anyone know how go the sales?

I tried it at my friend's place and its amazing. Really, when the Wii Mote is used right (RE, Zelda, Wii Sports, Scarface, The Godfather) it is far more than a gimmick: It really adds to the fun level of the game- moreso for me than the improved graphics you'd get on PS3. And as Metroid Prime 3 is showing, when developers take the time, they can produce great graphics and great controls for the Wii.

I thought it was fun too, until I realized it wasn't as flexible as it looked, playing tennis on wii sports for example, you're just swinging the wiimote to trigger the swing action, which kills most of the games on wii for me. But that's just me, I will be getting an Xbox360 and a PS3 because they're actually making progress instead of pretending.

Oh yeah, to answer Kathaarian's post: The PS3 sales went up with 2800% after the 100 dollar price cut a few weeks ago.

Football Manager 2007
Need for Speed Carbon
Star Wars: Empire at War
Prey
Fear(+expansion)

thing is, most developers deliver half-assed attempts to cash in on the Wii-mote with crappy ports featuring bad graphics (in some cases straight from the previous generation consoles) and clumsy controls.

By the way, if any of you still have Doom 2, I recommend this download:

http://www.doom2.net/~doomdepot/abs-download.htm

A free AND LEGAL almost pixel-to-pixel conversion of Doom 64 (the N64's Doom game) for Doom 2. You don't even necessarily need to have Doom 2 installed. Just copy the Doom2.Wad file from your Doom 2 CD onto your computer and follow the instructions on this site. For a free download, it's actually very fun.

Amazing how, despite everybody hyping up Doom 64 as the "first true 3D Doom game", we find out how many years later that the game's NOT true 3D and is actually just running on a modified version of the original Doom engine!

Well, the Wii is never going to have as good of graphics as PS3 or 360, so you can't hold anything against the developers. I think Nintendo is entirely too dependent on first-party games...if they wanted to, they could have good third-party games made, I think.

There are quite a few great third party games on Wii at the moment- Scarface and Godfather possessing great controls- much better than their counterparts, methinks. As for the graphics, while its true that you can't blame developers for not making 360 graphics on the wii, its very obvious that sometimes they don't try at all- take for example Far Cry, which looks like it has N64 graphics. But then you have games like Metroid Prime and Mario Galaxies or hell, even Twilight Princess (which is made for Gamecube) which show that when developers take the time, they can still make beautiful graphics for the wii.

I agree, and I love some of the stuff that gets released on the Nintendo, just look at the difference in quality between games like Lylat Wars and Zelda 64, compare them to Superman 64 (Big, major lolz) and Starcraft.

It's a good example of the developers making bad decisions, Starcraft is probably the only game that I'd say is perfect, and they ruined it by not putting enough work into it.

EDIT: Oh, and graphics have nothing to do with the quality of the game, I still play stuff like The Ur-Quan Masters and Tactics Ogre where the game play is much better than in newer games.

Oh, I agree that graphics don't make a game- my favourite system is after all, the SNES, and my favourite video game Ocarina of Time, whose graphics are obviously very dated. Just pointing out that when developers try, they can make very good graphics for the Wii.

Oh Superman 64... are you the worst game ever?

Oh man, the SNES... every game developer was putting everything into that console. I had a 'Wild Card' or whatever it was called, I could copy the cassetes onto disks, I had over 200 games for the SNES when I sold it to buy a 64, I still regret that day.