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Azrael · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:13 am

right now, i'm reading the driving theory book. i'm learning how to drive.

this year i read
-angels and demons
-The Godfather by Mario Puzzo (BRILLIANT!!)
-pursuit by Thomas Perry (utter shit)
-Harry Potter, the new one
-Omerta (mario puzo) - also great
-Kane and Abel (Jeffrey Archer) - this book is incredible! really liked it! read it if you get the chance..
-The Firm (John Grisham) - very nice.

could you elaborate on these... read your comments and checked Amazon and they seemed like good reads:

-The Shadow Of The Wind
-the Ben Elton books
-Metamorphosis by Kafka
-The Pillars of The Earth

and a few questions:
-i hated Pursuit by Thomas Perry, but he has other books like Metzger's Dog that were praised and stuff. think i'll like it?
-i loved Omerta and The Godfather by Mario Puzo. which other books of his should i read?

also i read a bit of "hell bent for leather" at fnac lisbon.. didn't seem like a good book. the general tone was like he was some old fart that "outgrew" heavy metal and that it's just a phase people go through. fuck off! also his idea of metal appears to be led zep and def leppard.

Stefan · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:25 am

Ben Elton is, imo, the most talented comedy writer out of UK lately... I like how he points at society flaws with an accurate precision while remaining damn funny..

the best example of his work is "High Society" ( http://www.booklore.co.uk/PastReviews/E ... Review.htm )where politics, tv reality, show business, drug war, prostitution (etc) mix together in a wel constructed and very funny novel... try it !

Radagast · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:02 am

T.I.E. wrote:

Ben Elton is, imo, the most talented comedy writer out of UK lately... I like how he points at society flaws with an accurate precision while remaining damn funny.

.

I strongly disagree.

Guest · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:23 am

ok, tell ya what - i'll give Ben Elton a chance and you read Kane and Abel

seriously, it rules. these 2 kids are born in the same day, but in different places - one to a wealthy Boston family, another in poverty in Poland. they eventually meet eachother and clash and... read the book.

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:45 pm

Radagast wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

Ben Elton is, imo, the most talented comedy writer out of UK lately... I like how he points at society flaws with an accurate precision while remaining damn funny.

.

I strongly disagree.

To a non-Brit he's funny, but to a Brit....not so good.

Radagast · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:11 pm

His style of writing is truly awful.

Stefan · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:30 pm

zadsterboombox wrote:

Radagast wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

Ben Elton is, imo, the most talented comedy writer out of UK lately... I like how he points at society flaws with an accurate precision while remaining damn funny.

.

I strongly disagree.

To a non-Brit he's funny, but to a Brit....not so good.

So, how come he is successful in UK ? :?

Radagast wrote:

His style of writing is truly awful.

I strongly disagree... it's not great, but it's fine... and the point of Ben Elton is more what he writes than how he writes it...

Z, Rad, tell me, what did you read of him ? :roll:

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:33 pm

T.I.E. wrote:

So, how come he is successful in UK ? :?

More for his old (good) comedy stuff, and some crappy musicals he's been involved with, than for his books, I'd think. And sadly, being successful in the UK is not yet an indication of quality!

T.I.E wrote:

I strongly disagree... it's not great, but it's fine... and the point of Ben Elton is more what he writes than how he writes it...

Z, Rad, tell me, what did you read of him ?

I read High Society, and another one that I can't remember. It wasn't bad, but it didn't really seem good to me.

For the same sort of thing that I liked, there's a Scottish writer called Christopher Brookmyre, this one's quite good:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 7?v=glance

Radagast · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:50 pm

T.I.E. wrote:

Z, Rad, tell me, what did you read of him ? :roll:

Why the use of your favourite emoticon? Doubting that I actually read anything of his?

Stark - it had such an over the top, club-you-over-the-head, juvenile 'corporations are baaaad we must care for the environment' message that it became almost unreadable.

Yeah, the ruling classes are evil. Groundbreaking stuff, Ben.

Stefan · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:57 pm

yes I was doubting... sorry Rad'...

I haven't read that one so i won't comment on its quality (or lack of) but I can only advise you to try High Society, not the novel of the century but a very well shaped and clever one...

@ Z, I'll try that Christopher Brookmyre of yours and I'll tell you what i thought... thx for the tip

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:44 am

For anthropology class. I keep having to stop and re-start, though. There's some pretty vivid description of female circumcision, and I can't stand to read it for very long.

lazy Azrael :D · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:11 pm

hey Carnifex, ever read the Papalagui?

it's this dude from some remote island who visits a western country (germany, i think...) and writes everything down so he can describe it to his people back home. some guy got hold of it and got it published.

pretty cool book...

Goat · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:15 pm

Kane and Abel by Jeffrey Lying Bastard Archer.

Still, if I can listen to Burzum I can read Archer...

Skartasis · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:55 pm

Just finished Hellblazer:Setting Sun TPB, next I'll read Predator:Big Game TPB

yes, I know these are comics, but they count too, rigth?

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:10 pm

lazy Azrael

wrote:

hey Carnifex, ever read the Papalagui?

it's this dude from some remote island who visits a western country (germany, i think...) and writes everything down so he can describe it to his people back home. some guy got hold of it and got it published.

pretty cool book...

Nope.

Fingon · **Joined:** Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:11 pm **Posts:** 3207

Skartasis wrote:

Just finished Hellblazer:Setting Sun TPB, next I'll read Predator:Big Game TPB

yes, I know these are comics, but they count too, rigth?

comics>books

well i like both but pff :roll:

Now Reading: Thorgal I-XVI

lazy Azrael :D · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:02 am

Carnifex: check it out it's a good read

ZADSTERBOOMBOX: that book fucking rules! i loved it. really good. yeah.

why the "fucking liar" though? :?

Skartasis · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:35 pm

Fingon wrote:

Skartasis wrote:

Just finished Hellblazer:Setting Sun TPB, next I'll read Predator:Big Game TPB

yes, I know these are comics, but they count too, rigth?

comics>books

well i like both but pff :roll:

Now Reading: Thorgal I-XVI

okay... Just finished Poison Elves vol.3: Desert of the Third Sin TPB. Pretty good, gotta get more stuff by Drew Hayes

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:26 pm

lazy Azrael

wrote:

Carnifex: check it out it's a good read

ZADSTERBOOMBOX: that book fucking rules! i loved it. really good. yeah.

why the "fucking liar" though? :?

Finned it, not that great.

As for the fucking liar, ex-Lord Archer has quite the little history over here. For the basics:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1420132.stm

Azrael · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:37 pm

well, that was interesting [the article].

personally i thought it was a great book.. to each his own i guess.

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