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RecklessNightmare · **Joined:** Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:56 pm **Posts:** 65

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

cry of the banshee · **Posted:** Thu May 02, 2013 8:28 pm

RecklessNightmare wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

That sounds reasonable enough.
One of the defining traits (if not THE defining trait) of the alpha is definitely self confidence.

I think the whole knitting thing stems mainly from it being that this is a site that is dedicated to discussion of things metal related, more or less, and metal is generally associated with machismo, virility, aggression and other so-called "masculine" traits. (I am in no way implying that metal isn't "a girl thing"; on the contrary it is nice to see females amongst the ranks). But traditionally, it's a genre that is overwhelmingly male oriented.
Knitting and such is generally associated with little old ladies, and just seems out of place.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 12:35 am

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

That sounds reasonable enough.
One of the defining traits (if not THE defining trait) of the alpha is definitely self confidence.

I think the whole knitting thing stems mainly from it being that this is a site that is dedicated to discussion of things metal related, more or less, and metal is generally associated with machismo, virility, aggression and other so-called "masculine" traits. (I am in no way implying that metal isn't "a girl thing"; on the contrary it is nice to see females amongst the ranks). But traditionally, it's a genre that is overwhelmingly male oriented.
Knitting and such is generally associated with little old ladies, and just seems out of place.

Because covering your face in paint and wearing eye liner or having long hair are tried and true signifiers of machismo.

cry of the banshee · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 12:59 am

traptunderice wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

That sounds reasonable enough.
One of the defining traits (if not THE defining trait) of the alpha is definitely self confidence.

I think the whole knitting thing stems mainly from it being that this is a site that is dedicated to discussion of things metal related, more or less, and metal is generally associated with machismo, virility, aggression and other so-called "masculine" traits. (I am in no way implying that metal isn't "a girl thing"; on the contrary it is nice to see females amongst the ranks). But traditionally, it's a genre that is overwhelmingly male oriented.
Knitting and such is generally associated with little old ladies, and just seems out of place.

Because covering your face in paint and wearing eye liner or having long hair are tried and true signifiers of machismo.

Yes, because that is representative of all metal throughout history...
got something subsatantial to add, or is this going to be another typical trapt false dichotomy?
Let me know, so I can avoid wasting my time.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 1:11 am

cry of the banshee wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

That sounds reasonable enough.
One of the defining traits (if not THE defining trait) of the alpha is definitely self confidence.

I think the whole knitting thing stems mainly from it being that this is a site that is dedicated to discussion of things metal related, more or less, and metal is generally associated with machismo, virility, aggression and other so-called "masculine" traits. (I am in no way implying that metal isn't "a girl thing"; on the contrary it is nice to see females amongst the ranks). But traditionally, it's a genre that is overwhelmingly male oriented.
Knitting and such is generally associated with little old ladies, and just seems out of place.

Because covering your face in paint and wearing eye liner or having long hair are tried and true signifiers of machismo.

Yes, because that is representative of all metal throughout history...
got something subsatantial to add, or is this going to be another typical trapt false dichotomy?
Let me know, so I can avoid wasting my time.

You're just trying to paint a very diverse category as one solidified, homogenous realm. It doesn't matter whether those instances were representative of all metal throughout history; they challenge the narrative that you're making that all metal throughout history has been about a hardened masculinity.

Arguing with you is worthless, but I'll say this. A lot of people that I know who listen to metal got into it due to issues at home. It's a way of responding to bickering parents, alcoholics in the house, etc, if not full-on domestic abuse. A lot of those issues point back to, at least for me, masculinity and aggression. If there was ever a place to counter that or resist that it ought to be fucking metal. Get the final word, V, and we'll call it quits.

cry of the banshee · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 1:15 am

traptunderice wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

cry of the banshee wrote:

RecklessNightmare wrote:

Here's my (female) perspective:

It doesn't matter what you do with your time. Knitting? Bring it on. Gender roles are ridiculous anyway. As long as you're confident. Attitude is the deal breaker.

Also, if a girl kisses someone else... I don't think she should get any additional chances. Unless circumstances were incredibly aberrant, chances are that if she's done it once she'll do it again.

Being constrained by whatever gender roles society dictates may or may not be ridiculous, but correct me if I'm wrong: females generally seek out the alphas in the group, no? Mating in many ways is a competition for resources, for want of a better metaphor,
the historical/anthropological reasons being fairly well known and established.
Even highly successful women rarely mate with males that are lower down on the pecking order than they are.

Yes, that's true. But you can be the alpha and partake in whatever activities you want. It's not the gender roles themselves, it's your attitude about them. How masculine can you look while playing the piccolo? If the answer is a confident "very much so" then go for it. If the answer is "well... I don't know.." Then you might want to hold off.

Again, confidence is what really matters.

That sounds reasonable enough.
One of the defining traits (if not THE defining trait) of the alpha is definitely self confidence.

I think the whole knitting thing stems mainly from it being that this is a site that is dedicated to discussion of things metal related, more or less, and metal is generally associated with machismo, virility, aggression and other so-called "masculine" traits. (I am in no way implying that metal isn't "a girl thing"; on the contrary it is nice to see females amongst the ranks). But traditionally, it's a genre that is overwhelmingly male oriented.
Knitting and such is generally associated with little old ladies, and just seems out of place.

Because covering your face in paint and wearing eye liner or having long hair are tried and true signifiers of machismo.

Yes, because that is representative of all metal throughout history...
got something subsatantial to add, or is this going to be another typical trapt false dichotomy?
Let me know, so I can avoid wasting my time.

You're just trying to paint a very diverse category as one solidified, homogenous realm. It doesn't matter whether those instances were representative of all metal throughout history; they challenge the narrative that you're making that all metal throughout history has been about a hardened masculinity.

Arguing with you is worthless, but I'll say this. A lot of people that I know who listen to metal got into it due to issues at home. It's a way of responding to bickering parents, alcoholics in the house, etc, if not full-on domestic abuse. A lot of those issues point back to, at least for me, masculinity and aggression. If there was ever a place to counter that or resist that it ought to be fucking metal. Get the final word, V, and we'll call it quits.

Nah, not worth the time.
I will say this, again: learn to read comprehensively... if you're an indication of what our institutions of higher learning are producing, then, yikes.

noodles · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 1:31 am

I'm passionate about artistic expression generally which leads into interests in metal (because it's a genre which, because of its abrasive sound, is conducive to bands doing what they want to do rather than catering to a popular audience) and fashion (a type of artistic expression). On top of that, lots of fashion designers have been inspired by the imagery and style of the metal subculture. (see: Odyn Vovk.) The interest in fashion leads to wanting to create it myself, which I can do through knitting. If you don't look at it through the masculinity/femininity lens (a boring lens) then they're not far apart.

Also it's a great way to keep your hands busy while you're listening to music.

tl;dr as someone on another forum said, I'm way past caring about whether something is sufficiently manly before I do it.

dead1 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:22 am **Posts:** 2250

Feeling a bit numb from the news about Jeff Hanneman passing away.

2nd time this year after passing of Clive Burr.

cry of the banshee · **Posted:** Fri May 03, 2013 1:50 am

dead1 wrote:

Feeling a bit numb from the news about Jeff Hanneman passing away.

2nd time this year after passing of Clive Burr.

I just saw this... damn.

I was just blasting Hell Awaits last night.

RIP.

RecklessNightmare · **Joined:** Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:56 pm **Posts:** 65

noodles wrote:

I'm passionate about artistic expression generally which leads into interests in metal (because it's a genre which, because of its abrasive sound, is conducive to bands doing what they want to do rather than catering to a popular audience) and fashion (a type of artistic expression). On top of that, lots of fashion designers have been inspired by the imagery and style of the metal subculture. (see: Odyn Vovk.) The interest in fashion leads to wanting to create it myself, which I can do through knitting. If you don't look at it through the masculinity/femininity lens (a boring lens) then they're not far apart.

Also it's a great way to keep your hands busy while you're listening to music.

tl;dr as someone on another forum said, I'm way past caring about whether something is sufficiently manly before I do it.

This is exactly how I feel about knitting too!

noodles · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 10:11 am

I met a girl dancing tonight and it was hard to stop looking at her when we danced (not normal since usually you want to make sure you don't hit other people) and I wanted to dance with her over and over again. Should I add her on facebook and ask her if she wants to drink tea and go for a walk along the beach?

slam dunk off of a rebound u kno

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 1:52 pm

noodles wrote:

I met a girl dancing tonight and it was hard to stop looking at her when we danced (not normal since usually you want to make sure you don't hit other people) and I wanted to dance with her over and over again. Should I add her on facebook and ask her if she wants to drink tea and go for a walk along the beach?

Do you really need to be told yes?

noodles · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 6:13 pm

Not really but also a little bit.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 6:41 pm

noodles wrote:

Not really but also a little bit.

Get on it, bro. Was this dancing situation of the class variety or the bar variety? I'm kinda of envious of your participation in the former.

noodles · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 6:51 pm

oops she has a boyfriend. shucks

It was at a social dance. (They teach a lesson then play music for you to dance to for a couple hours.) An iffy place for romance since on one hand it's generally frowned upon, but on the other you get to touch and interact with lots of different girls.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 8:05 pm

noodles wrote:

oops she has a boyfriend. shucks

Facebook inform you of that? The next day after dancing with someone to read that line on a web page is the biggest bummer.

Quote:

An iffy place for romance since on one hand it's generally frowned upon

lol makes sense.

noodles · **Posted:** Sun May 05, 2013 8:29 pm

I can't tell if I like it as a way of finding out. It seems illegitimate and dishonest, but it's also non-awkward.

also all the girls i'm attracted to have the same body type, hair colour, and face. it's like clockwork. clearly last relationship didn't work because she was blonde.

Azrael · **Posted:** Mon May 06, 2013 11:45 pm

came back from Rio de Janeiro yesterday night, had left for a weekend trip (it's a 6 or so hour bus ride from Sao Paulo).

it's fucking amazing. it benefits from this awesome dramatic setting with hills and bays and beaches and the city is just built up around that. well preserved older parts of town that reminded me of Lisbon, and the Lapa area was a lot like Bairro Alto, so that's two things that made me very happy (haven't been to Portugal in over 6 months, my previous 'record' was 4). met some nice people at the hostel, visited the Cristo Redentor statue and Pao de Açucar (Sugar Loaf) hill plus Ipanema beach. hope to do the less touristy spots when i inevitably return.

it only made the gloom of Sao Paulo and especially Guarulhos even worse though :sad:

traptunderice · **Posted:** Tue May 07, 2013 4:33 pm

Was being hit full-force with the symptoms of what I now know to be mono last night as I was drinking beers with lady friend who said she would if she didn't have a boyfriend and is currently in the process of breaking up with said boyfriend. I'm going home in two weeks, but I still just wanted to make out, but a building fever and body aches whilst sitting at the bar were an awful feeling. No kissing for me :(

But I'm bringing her to a party this weekend.

noodles · **Posted:** Tue May 07, 2013 4:55 pm

Doesn't mono last a long time?

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