Which one of these is an insult?

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Eyesore wrote:

I always do this?? WHEN?? When do I always do this? That is a straight up bullshit comment! Again, 3,000 posts, show me where I always do this, dude.

The fact that there's 3000+ posts doesn't make it any easier. I'm not going to wade through 3000+ posts when there are enough examples of your 'shit-talk with disclaimer, then back up' style in the Evanescence thread itself.

Eyesore wrote:

I don't have such an issue with so many people, Valefor was a prick that started fights and screwed over the people who built this site. Yet you people defend him?!?! That is baffling! So Valefor gets banned because he was an asshole and deserved to get banned and I become the scapegoat. Someone like T.I.E.—who's never said a negative thing towards me, by the way—decides to lead an e-crusade against me because I'm such a bad moderator. A couple of you jumped on the bandwagon just because you like Valefor and you're bored or whatever. Then you starting spouting off completely ignorant statements with little or no basis in fact, and you refuse to prove it or even attempt to. And, of course, that's because I will simply blow it off. My fault again. That's fine.

As stated, there are enough examples in the Evanescence thread of the shit-talk-backupfast style for me not to have to wade through all your posts to find a bunch of examples that you'll dismiss as being out of context.

Eyesore wrote:

None of that changes anything. Valefor got himself banned. Not me. You got yourself stripped of your admin rights. Not me. I have moderated virtually nothing here except to move threads and delete a few blatant spam threads. Goddamn the bad, undeserving mod!

Nobody's saying you're a bad mod in the sense that you let things run rampant or unchecked, but rather that you shouldn't be a moderator because of your behavior. Which I've already referenced. Several times.

This isn't about me; it's about the shifting standards of the site, it's about the manner in which you choose to interact, and it's about the monstrous gap between the forumites and the reviewers.

Eyesore wrote:

See, this is where one of those "Are you really that dumb?" questions are appropriate. Like Rad's silly poll, you're making something up, typing out one sentence and trying to pretend like the meaning is the same and can be analyzed as such. It's not. In what context is this statement presented in? Alone it could have numerous connotations. You have a lot to learn.

I would ask that you refrain from condescending statements as long as we're trying to discuss something in an adult manner, Eyesore.

If the context of a statement isn't apparent, it can be misinterpreted all too easily! That's the god-damned POINT. The contextual points of your statements can be taken in many ways but you are unable to see how anyone could take them in any way besides a joke.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:01 am

Aaron, the Evanescence thread is one out of thousands, it does not represent me over 3,000 posts. That is fact, you know it, otherwise you'd be able to find more examples. Also, I have never had to justify anything I've said on this board with an "it was a JOKE" statement except in that thread, thus you're whole point is moot.

As for me keeping it mature, it is quite mature, your points are not good points. Anything can be taken out of context. ANYTHING. That does not change fact. The fact remains that my "black metal sucks" comment was a joke, which has been explained. Fine, someone took offense to it, but they were immediately told it was a joke! End of discussion. It was even a personal comment, so why the hell is someone taking offense to it?!?! The "prick" comment was not said by me, but to me so why I'm even defending that is beyond me. As for your comment about people taking it the wrong way, duly noted, but unless I say it to you maybe you should mind your business especially if it is quite possible that YOU could be incorrect.

You've been quite the "prick" (yeah I said it, now your previous argument has some validity) on numerous occasions here, that is not an insult, that is a fact, shall I treat you as such from now on? I mean, apparently all it takes is for someone to do something one time and they're labelled for good!

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Eyesore wrote:

Aaron, the Evanescence thread is one out of thousands, it does not represent me over 3,000 posts. That is fact, you know it, otherwise you'd be able to find more examples. Also, I have never had to justify anything I've said on this board with an "it was a JOKE" statement except in that thread, thus you're whole point is moot.

I'm not unable to find more examples, I find it to be an exercise in futility to even attempt finding more examples because of the sheer volume of posts before me and because you'd dismiss them as being out of context in any event.

Eyesore wrote:

As for me keeping it mature, it is quite mature, your points are not good points. Anything can be taken out of context. ANYTHING. That does not change fact. The fact remains that my "black metal sucks" comment was a joke, which has been explained. Fine, someone took offense to it, but they were immediately told it was a joke! End of discussion. It was even a personal comment, so why the hell is someone taking offense to it?!?! The "prick" comment was not said by me, but to me so why I'm even defending that is beyond me. As for your comment about people taking it the wrong way, duly noted, but unless I say it to you maybe you should mind your business especially if it is quite possible that YOU could be incorrect.

The reason all my points are 'bad' is because RC really said everything that needed to be said and all I'm doing is basically repeating his points because you don't seem to get it... here, I'll repost it.

Radical Cut wrote:

It really is useless attempting to say anything to you that suggests a wrongdoing on your part isn't it? It's obvious to many of us that your message was insulting. You feign innocence and ask for proof, and when it's presented you deny that anyone could possibly see it in a different light than the one you claim to have written it in. I for one, don't buy it, and at least some others don't either. I guess all we can do is sit back and shut up, and hope we don't also get banned for arguing with you.

Altering that slightly it could and would apply to any examples I cared to dig up concerning what you've said in the past.

Eyesore wrote:

You've been quite the "prick" (yeah I said it, now your previous argument has some validity) on numerous occasions here, that is not an insult, that is a fact, shall I treat you as such from now on? I mean, apparently all it takes is for someone to do something one time and they're labelled for good!

Only reason it hasn't been brought up before is because before it was fairly obscure, but here it was brought up in several threads and as a result is now being discussed.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:29 am

Obscure yet so much that all THIS needed to happen right?

Quote:

I voted for Val out of personal bias and out of pissiness that I got my moderator status removed for the sort of conduct that Eyesore perpetuated, and yet his status remains untouched. Heck, in my case, the action undertaken wasn't the problem, it was the way I did it. In Eyesore's case, neither the action undertaken nor the manner in which he did it can be held to standards of proper conduct.

So... what the fuck?

'Nuff said. The rest is incorrect.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:35 am

By the way, I'm about to get off work and I'm not interested in arguing this on my off-time.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Eyesore wrote:

Obscure yet so much that all THIS needed to happen right?

I said it WAS obscure. Note the was.

Eyesore wrote:

'Nuff said. The rest is incorrect.

There are other issues being discussed here. My motives have nothing to do with this. I'm obviously not trying to get you removed as a moderator because I have little to no leverage with most of the team on such an issue, and I'm not trying to get V unbanned for the same reasons.

If I'm not trying to accomplish either of those objectives, then the reasons I initially voted are irrelevant, unless you're trying to damage my credibility with the other people who are on my side, which would make no sense.

Eyesore wrote:

By the way, I'm about to get off work and I'm not interested in arguing this on my off-time.

Noted.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:45 am

WAS obscure? Fine. WAS obscure! So...that warrants multiple threads on something that WAS obscure? I must have done it so much in that one thread that it pissed off five or so people on the board? Really now?

As for you initial comment, it says a lot. Have a good night.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Eyesore wrote:

WAS obscure? Fine. WAS obscure! So...that warrants multiple threads on something that WAS obscure? I must have done it so much in that one thread that it pissed off five or so people on the board? Really now?

I didn't start any of these threads, but the initial threadstarter was T.I.E... who was never one for knowing what will and won't cause a lot of trouble. RC started this one because he felt he had a valid point to make that you've ignored, so... you know, I can't answer for them.

Eyesore wrote:

As for you initial comment, it says a lot. Have a good night.

Your refusal to address what RC said says quite a bit as well. You too.

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:59 am

Eyesore wrote:

By the way, I'm about to get off work and I'm not interested in arguing this on my off-time.

Oh I want to argue on this

Stream Of Passion Is Progressive

Ness · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:04 am

MetalStorm wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

By the way, I'm about to get off work and I'm not interested in arguing this on my off-time.

Oh I want to argue on this

Stream Of Passion Is Progressive

Children of Bodom are power metal!!!

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:57 am

Dead Machine wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

As for you initial comment, it says a lot. Have a good night.

Your refusal to address what RC said says quite a bit as well. You too.

4th post:

Eyesore wrote:

If this were accurate I'd vote, but nothing I ever said was THAT bad.

8th post:

Eyesore wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

If this were accurate I'd vote, but nothing I ever said was THAT bad.

Accurate?

Your defense of your PM was that you didn't insult or flame in any way, simply posed a question. Are we to take it then, that that guise only extends so far as your comments? What are the exact parameters for insult and innocent question?

I suggest you look up the work "context."

My PM:

Do you just like to argue so you ignore things, or are you just that annoyingly dumb? I mean, you can't be that dumb. A running joke on the board being scrutinized by someone who doesn't understand that is laughable. Even moreso after they've been told that very same thing a hundred times.

I've heard enough about you to understand you like cause fights. The almighty "V." Fine. Whatever. Try and actually argue things that make sense next time.

Ken

You'll notice it is sarcastic, but not insulting. You'll also notice the tone of my words are not nearly as harsh as those you've posted.

Shall I continue and quote the other times I addressed it in this very thread? Or is this another one of those role-playing things were you keep asking me for something until you get the one answer you want to hear?

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Eyesore wrote:

Shall I continue and quote the other times I addressed it in this very thread? Or is this another one of those role-playing things were you keep asking me for something until you get the one answer you want to hear?

I hate emoticons, but :roll: :roll: :roll:

I meant THIS, the paragraph I quoted in one of my own posts.

Radical Cut wrote:

It really is useless attempting to say anything to you that suggests a wrongdoing on your part isn't it? It's obvious to many of us that your message was insulting. You feign innocence and ask for proof, and when it's presented you deny that anyone could possibly see it in a different light than the one you claim to have written it in. I for one, don't buy it, and at least some others don't either. I guess all we can do is sit back and shut up, and hope we don't also get banned for arguing with you.

Caligula_K · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:56 pm **Posts:** 3561

metalNESS wrote:

MetalStorm wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

By the way, I'm about to get off work and I'm not interested in arguing this on my off-time.

Oh I want to argue on this

Stream Of Passion Is Progressive

Children of Bodom are power metal!!!

Power metal has sex with members of the same sex, thus making it a genre for homosexuals!

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:22 pm

Interloper wrote:

No. He posted it twice because he's a drama queen.

You are also a dram queen.

Interloper wrote:

Especially considering 99% of you here claim all nu-metal sucks, rap sucks, all kinds of things SUCK!

Quite frankly, I find you to be an arrogant asshole who always has to have the last word, you say these things just to piss people off and to stir the pot, and I think you fucking suck. You need to get over yourself, this isn't the Air Force and we don't do Iron Fist shit around here. You have a combative attitude, especially when it comes to defending sell outs, and in case you haven't noticed, that kind of attitude isn't welcome around here. You want to constantly fight with people, the Metal-Archives has plenty of idiots to fight with. Go over there, we don't want that kind of shit around here.

And PMing people to continue a fight is just plain bad manners, that why your getting so much flak for it.

otakon · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:16 pm

Yeah, stop the fucken drama and just unban V.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:37 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Shall I continue and quote the other times I addressed it in this very thread? Or is this another one of those role-playing things were you keep asking me for something until you get the one answer you want to hear?

I hate emoticons, but :roll: :roll: :roll:

I meant THIS, the paragraph I quoted in one of my own posts.

Radical Cut wrote:

It really is useless attempting to say anything to you that suggests a wrongdoing on your part isn't it? It's obvious to many of us that your message was insulting. You feign innocence and ask for proof, and when it's presented you deny that anyone could possibly see it in a different light than the one you claim to have written it in. I for one, don't buy it, and at least some others don't either. I guess all we can do is sit back and shut up, and hope we don't also get banned for arguing with you.

What kind of response do you want? I adressed this 100 times already. What I said was a joke, something I will not say again. That doesn't make me wrong. It was a joke, that is the honest answer. If someone else took it the wrong way, whoops, sorry, that's not MY fault, is it?

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:41 pm

Eternal Idol wrote:

Interloper wrote:

No. He posted it twice because he's a drama queen.

You are also a dram queen.

Interloper wrote:

Especially considering 99% of you here claim all nu-metal sucks, rap sucks, all kinds of things SUCK!

Quite frankly, I find you to be an arrogant asshole who always has to have the last word, you say these things just to piss people off and to stir the pot, and I think you fucking suck. You need to get over yourself, this isn't the Air Force and we don't do Iron Fist shit around here. You have a combative attitude, especially when it comes to defending sell outs, and in case you haven't noticed, that kind of attitude isn't welcome around here. You want to constantly fight with people, the Metal-Archives has plenty of idiots to fight with. Go over there, we don't want that kind of shit around here.

And PMing people to continue a fight is just plain bad manners, that why your getting so much flak for it.

Fight? Thanks for proving my point, people like you cannot understand why someone would defend a band YOU don't like, or the majority doesn't like. So I'm an asshole, right? This is a discussion board. This whole thing began over people defending your precious fucking black metal, yet that is cool. Defending a genre, or a band you like IS FUCKING WELCOME around here. That is what a messageboard is.

You are the one that has come off as the arrogant asshole. I have NEVER picked a fight with ANYONE here. Again, if this sort of thing is so prevalent, I implore you to find examples. 3,000 posts, it can't be hard.

And by the way, I sent one PM, count 'em...ONE!

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:03 pm

Wow, Zad misses all the action. Anyone cares to explain recent events in a PM, I'll be grateful.

Ness · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:08 pm

wow, this is still going on?

Bahm K wrote:

Power metal has sex with members of the same sex, thus making it a genre for homosexuals!

pffft... yeah, well, thrash music has more sellouts than Pop music.

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:28 pm

OK Eyesore, I concede. You are God in your own mind and never wrong. Feel free to reply as I'm sure you will need the last word, YET AGAIN. 3000 posts in the short amount of time you've been here proves my point. Even when people aren't fighting with you, you still have to have the last word, no matter what. That is highly annoying. Over half of the forum echoes similar feelings towards you, yet you can't see it? I knew you being a Mod would be a disaster, as it has been so far. All you had to say was, I'm sorry for being an ass, but no. Everybody else understands this concept, everyone except you. Your pride isn't winnig you any friends here. You just want to justify the un justifiable in the eyes of the forum.

But, you are a watse of my time and breath, as you will once only read what you want to read, cause god forbid the Air Force brat be wrong about something.

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