Mac or PC?

Dylan@Metalreviews · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:30 am

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:

Mac OS X is a really stable system, I've used this computer for hours and horus a day since August, and it has yet to crash.

That's the other thing. Macs are supposed to be these sturdy, nary-a-problem wonderthings, but everyone I know who has a Mac has had at least one major problem in the past four years, and my little Dell has been faithfully plugging away. Never crashed, never froze, never ate my homework. It's getting a little cranky now (it took almost a full minute to crop something in Photoshop the other day), but that's over four years of incredibly solid history, while my friend's Mac (less than a year old) had to be sent back because the damn thing kept randomly turning off, and could only be restarted with this arcane voodoo dance which involved pressing on the sides of the monitor while it was closed (it's a laptop).

...Well uhh....mine's been working fine! What generation was it? Are you sure his operating system was OS X?

Shuten Doji · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:43 am

I had a G3 mac with OSX for a year or two (back when they would have been considered modern), but I didn't like it so I switched back to PC and have used it ever since. i-photo used to crash on me every fucking day, and instead of a Blue Screen of Death, I just got a Spinning Pinwheel of Death. Plus, after all the programs you had to buy for your "seamless integration into a windows environment", it was cheaper for me to just buy a used PC and do anything that had to be shared or put onto a windows environment with that.

Ultimately, though, I kinda think that the debate is getting more and more irrelevant as the years go by. Aren't all new Macs built with Intel chips? And doesn't Windows Vista look just like OSX? They're so busy copying eachother that in a few years they'll be the same system with a different name.

/anyone seen that parody of the mac guy / PC guy advertisement that added a Linux guy?

EdgeOfForever · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:02 am

Personally I've never had my PC crash unless it's my own fault. I've had about 6-7 computers since I was 8 years old, I'm 19 now. I've had this shitty computer for about 2 years and it's never crashed, I've never had a virus, I mean everyone gets viruses, but I've never had a serious virus that wipes out your system. I strongly believe that it's the users fault, not the computers or the OS'.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:08 am

I had a PC die on me once after I powered it off with the power button. A no-no, of course, but I'd done this probably 10,000 times in my 8 years in the Air Force (with an endless cashflow, everything is expendable in the Air Force) and never had a problem. It was like 4am one morning and for some reason my PC had rebooted itself (power surge, maybe), and it was cranked! That Windows music started playing, scared the shit out of me! Haha. I reached over, held down the power button, and went back to sleep. The PC never booted again. I fried it.

So, be warned! 1 out of 10,001 times, powering a PC off by the power button, without shutting it down normally, will fry it.

Dylan@Metalreviews · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:06 am

Well, at least Adam knows what's good.

Thy Serpent · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:25 am

Add one more pc whore to the list :dio:

Rhys · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:19 am

I occasionally use itunes to purchase music from the net, and that one program annoys me enough that im sure i could not handle a whole computer built by the macintosh company.

Plus games never seem to work on macs (or quite a lot of software as Zad pointed out)

What are these ad's btw? Never seen them in Australia. (yet)

hellraiser_xes · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:11 am

I'm a PC user at home and in college. But since joining my internship, everything's Mac. I found it hard at first, especially the mouse thingy. Made me feel like a handicap. Plus I don't really like the method used to eject your thumbdrive etc. Such a nuisance.

I've been using my PC for the past 4 years and it works fine for me. I have to admit, I really took care of it well. And another factor is most probably my hard disk. I'm using a Seagate 80GB hard disk. It costs quite a bit here but I guess thats the reason why my PC is still fine. I have friends who opted for cheaper HD's and theirs used to crash every 6 months.

But it can't be denied the fact that a Mac is extremely stable. There's a famous story about how a Mac user never switched off his Mac for 8 years and it never crashed.

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:59 pm

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

I FUCKING HATE MACS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING.

I had no strong feelings until last semester, when I had to use them for my digital art class. Oh, how I grew to loathe them. User-friendly interface my pasty metalhead ass. I can never map my network drive properly on the damn things, and where the fuck is the right-click button? Fucking InDesign won't translate colors between Macs and PCs, either, and they can't delete stuff on flash drives in anything resembling a logical way.

I hate those commercials, too. They don't even cast Macs in all that good a light. Most of them say the following:

PC dude: Hey, I can get real work done.
Mac dude: Hey, I can play with pictures. And sounds. And anything else of very little consequence.

In summation, I hate Macs and everything about them.

Although I do love my iPod.

I didn't like the Mac interface at first because it made way too much sense. After a while i got used to it and I love it. And the mapping out of the drives seems to make more sense to me too.

I am not sure what you refer to about deleting files on a flash drive. I have done it and it works exactly the same as with a PC. (i am using OSX maybe you were on a different mac OS.)

The right click did drive me crazy too, but then i hooked up a two button mouse to it through a usb port and it works just like it does on a PC. Again maybe that is a feature of OSX although i can't imagine why your graphic design class would not have been running OSX.

I don't like those ads either. But i suppose they make sense. They want to get the trendy lil' kids who are like sick digital artists who record their friends doing extreme stunts.

Any one who really uses macs for that kind of thing doesn't need an ad to them it is more suited for such things. My biggest issue with it is that they essentialy say the opposite of what is true. Having way more software makes the PC less specialized than the
MAC.

Dylan@Metalreviews · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:11 pm

unknownkadath666 wrote:

I didn't like the Mac interface at first because it made way too much sense.

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:34 pm

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

I FUCKING HATE MACS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING.

I had no strong feelings until last semester, when I had to use them for my digital art class. Oh, how I grew to loathe them. User-friendly interface my pasty metalhead ass. I can never map my network drive properly on the damn things, and where the fuck is the right-click button? Fucking InDesign won't translate colors between Macs and PCs, either, and they can't delete stuff on flash drives in anything resembling a logical way.

I hate those commercials, too. They don't even cast Macs in all that good a light. Most of them say the following:

PC dude: Hey, I can get real work done.
Mac dude: Hey, I can play with pictures. And sounds. And anything else of very little consequence.

In summation, I hate Macs and everything about them.

Although I do love my iPod.

I didn't like the Mac interface at first because it made way too much sense. After a while i got used to it and I love it. And the mapping out of the drives seems to make more sense to me too.

I am not sure what you refer to about deleting files on a flash drive. I have done it and it works exactly the same as with a PC. (i am using OSX maybe you were on a different mac OS.)

The right click did drive me crazy too, but then i hooked up a two button mouse to it through a usb port and it works just like it does on a PC. Again maybe that is a feature of OSX although i can't imagine why your graphic design class would not have been running OSX.

I don't like those ads either. But i suppose they make sense. They want to get the trendy lil' kids who are like sick digital artists who record their friends doing extreme stunts.

Any one who really uses macs for that kind of thing doesn't need an ad to them it is more suited for such things. My biggest issue with it is that they essentialy say the opposite of what is true. Having way more software makes the PC less specialized than the
MAC.

Maybe it's just the Macs in the art lab at my school, but you have to drag the file to the trash bin on the desktop, then empty the trash for it to actually delete. Drives me nuts, since the scanners are hooked up to Macs, so I still have to deal with the damn things.

leee · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:08 pm

PC all the way. Windows 2000, XP Professional I love but to be honest I haven't used a Mac in ages and never will for either work or home.

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:40 am

Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:

Mac OS X is a really stable system, I've used this computer for hours and horus a day since August, and it has yet to crash.

That's the other thing. Macs are supposed to be these sturdy, nary-a-problem wonderthings, but everyone I know who has a Mac has had at least one major problem in the past four years, and my little Dell has been faithfully plugging away. Never crashed, never froze, never ate my homework. It's getting a little cranky now (it took almost a full minute to crop something in Photoshop the other day), but that's over four years of incredibly solid history, while my friend's Mac (less than a year old) had to be sent back because the damn thing kept randomly turning off, and could only be restarted with this arcane voodoo dance which involved pressing on the sides of the monitor while it was closed (it's a laptop).

...Well uhh....mine's been working fine! What generation was it? Are you sure his operating system was OS X?

I'm not sure what she was running. She got it during the summer of 2005 (I was there when she ordered it, as I recall).

Cara · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:45 am

I've only ever had a PC, so I can't really form an opinion. I'd be open to trying a mac though.

Kuruus · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:15 pm

My avatar says it all!

Zeth · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:16 pm

I voted PC since that's what I have, but I would absolutely prefer a Mac for everything else besides playing games. I mean, comon, Anti-virus programs for Macs don't even exist as far as I know. Alot of the PC-problems are just a joke for Macs. Mac OSX is a far superior system to Windows.

You can buy a Mac mini with included Leopard OS for about as much as Windows Vista Ultimate costs. :rolleyes:

Azrael · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:55 pm

you can have OSX and Windows on the same computer now, the only problem imo is that the goddamn macs have no delete, home, end, pgup and pgdn keys. i use them a lot when i'm on the computer.

Kuruus · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:13 pm

Azrael wrote:

you can have OSX and Windows on the same computer now, the only problem imo is that the goddamn macs have no delete, home, end, pgup and pgdn keys. i use them a lot when i'm on the computer.

David Bradely, the inventor of CTRL-ALT-DEL was talking about why he created it during a panel celebrating the 20th anniversary of the IBM PC which included Bill Gates.

Mr. Bradely said, 'I may have invented CTRL-ALT-DEL, but Bill Gates made it famous,' which just about brought the house down. The funniest part is the expression, or lack thereof, on the face of Bill. He wasn't too pleased, not even when Bradely said, 'I was talking about the Windows NT login..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiH-iA9EO_Q

:lol:

Edit: Not trying to pick on you Azrael, but you jogged a memory when you mentioned the delete button in your post.

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:39 pm

Azrael wrote:

you can have OSX and Windows on the same computer now, the only problem imo is that the goddamn macs have no delete, home, end, pgup and pgdn keys. i use them a lot when i'm on the computer.

mine has all of those

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:47 am

Most of you have probably already seen this but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSA4tiriHrc

:lol:

I haven't used a Mac in a long time, but I really hated them before. I wouldn't be opposed to trying one out sometime, but I've never had issues with my PC. I think a lot of the problems people have with PC's are a result of their own user errors, buying shoddy parts, and/or continuousy installing programs they know almost nothing about.

-Tyrion

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