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I'd just like to thank everyone here who suggested A Song of Ice and Fire. Just got done reading A Feast for Crows. I have to say this is my favorite series of books to date. Now reading The Watchman.


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The Seventh Scroll by Wilbur Smith. His Egyptian series OWN. River God, Seventh Scroll, Warlock, The Quest, all awesome.

From them I learned that the Egyptians believed that the Milky Way was the result of Amon Ra jacking off. That's fucking metal right there.


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I think I should post the following here. In my life I have made it a priority to visit and be a member of any library that was available to me wherever I lived until now. The thing is that it was mostly smaller cities and in non-english countries (greece, sweden, denmark) so finding english fantasy and science fiction was not always the easiest thing.
So then I was walking around in copenhagen yesterday and I passed in front of the main public library so I thought, let's check this out. Maaaaaan! First of all, it's a beautiful place. Maybe not so much as libraries in really huge american cities (which I have only seen in movies or documentaries) but still a nice place. It looks like a mall for books! And the english section is huge! There were so many fantasy and science fiction books (compared to my previous experiences) I felt intoxicated! It's a pitty I'm leaving denmark in a month and I don't have the chance to properly take advantage of such a library! Anyway, that's my book related story for today, hope it fits this thread.


Ahh, that sucks man. Still, where are you leaving Denmark for? If an English country, you will find English books to your heart's content...

And I'm about 300 pages into Assassin's Quest by Hobb and really enjoying it. Its a complete change of pace from the other two, being a travellogue rather than a political intrigue story, but she can (hurray!) do travellogue right, unlike most authors in the genre. Though its been a bit padded so far, there's just something about her world's social structure that rings true, and Fitz is an insightful enough narrator (as well as probably the best take on a true hero in the fantasy genre) that his travels become interesting by virtue of being seen through his eyes. I'm very happy I read this trilogy, and hope it ends well.


I'm going back to Greece which is not a reading heaven for sure. Not only is it not a country where english is popular, even libraries are neglected and very poor in content where they exist. So I know I won't have any chance for free reading soon. But I'm not very worried. I intend to sample books through downloaded e-books or samples (like amazon's "Search inside") and then order bunches of them.

I'm happy that you like the books you're reading. The third book is a bit different that the other two as you noticed yourself. The ending is interesting for the fact between 2 of my friends who read it one hated the ending the other loved it :wacko: hahaha let's see what you think!


Damn... Still, going to Greece is awesome. How long are you there for, and why are you going?

And I'm going to go between both your friends. There were aspects of the ending I liked, and aspects I didn't. Verity's sacrificeis poignant, as is Fitz's final isolation (though maybe not so final... I hear the Tawny Man trilogy is about him too). On the other hand, there was too little resolution. We spend the whole book travelling with Fitz and trying to figure everything out and then the whole Regal and Red Ships plotlines are resolved in about ten pages, with some of the most important aspects of the trilogy, like forging, explained in a paragraph as an afterthought. The dragons kind of just felt like a deus ex machina, especially when after Verity's sacrifice, Fitz was able to wake about 50 of them with the greatest of ease- so what was the point?

But all in all, a good trilogy. It had its weak points, though (most notably Regal, who was a pretty bad villain, as well as the aforementioned quick resolution). 8/10 for the trilogy, 8/10 for Apprentice, 9/10 for Royal Assassin, and 7/10 for Assassin's Quest.


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Damn... Still, going to Greece is awesome. How long are you there for, and why are you going?


Well it's home and I'm done studying so I'm going back.. maybe forever .. maybe until I get sick of it and move someplace else.

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And I'm going to go between both your friends. There were aspects of the ending I liked, and aspects I didn't. Verity's sacrifice is poignant, as is Fitz's final isolation (though maybe not so final... I hear the Tawny Man trilogy is about him too). On the other hand, there was too little resolution. We spend the whole book travelling with Fitz and trying to figure everything out and then the whole Regal and Red Ships plotlines are resolved in about ten pages, with some of the most important aspects of the trilogy, like forging, explained in a paragraph as an afterthought. The dragons kind of just felt like a deus ex machina, especially when after Verity's sacrifice, Fitz was able to wake about 50 of them with the greatest of ease- so what was the point?


I totally agree with you on your views about the ending. I felt the same things. Still, I enjoyed it very very much. I haven't had the chance to read the next trilogy though. Maybe sometime later.

Oh and I just bought the following two books:
Roger Zelazny - The Chronicles of Amber (Fantasy Masterworks #6)
Timothy Zahn - The Icarus Hunt

I hope they are as good as they sound, look and as I herd.


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Only Zahn I've read are his Star Wars books way back in the day. From what I remember, they were the only star wars books that can perhaps be called somewhat decent. Never heard anything about his non SW books.

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Only Zahn I've read are his Star Wars books way back in the day. From what I remember, they were the only star wars books that can perhaps be called somewhat decent. Never heard anything about his non SW books.
Both him and RA Salvatore wrote decent SW novels and that is an impressive feat.


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I'm now starting to get into CS Lewis. I bought his "Signature Set" on Amazon.com, and I will begin reading it when it comes in this week.


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Only Zahn I've read are his Star Wars books way back in the day. From what I remember, they were the only star wars books that can perhaps be called somewhat decent. Never heard anything about his non SW books.


I dunno. I thought Shadows Of The Empire was a fun read, even though Prince Xizor was probably more like Jabba The Hutt than Darth Vader. And some things, like a plant shop in an underground mall, didn't seem very "Star Wars"-ie to me.


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Only Zahn I've read are his Star Wars books way back in the day. From what I remember, they were the only star wars books that can perhaps be called somewhat decent. Never heard anything about his non SW books.


I dunno. I thought Shadows Of The Empire was a fun read, even though Prince Xizor was probably more like Jabba The Hutt than Darth Vader. And some things, like a plant shop in an underground mall, didn't seem very "Star Wars"-ie to me.


Oh ya, that book was pretty good (though I hated the fact that a major character died by smashing into a... rock)- there was also a pre star wars Han solo trilogy that was pretty good. Still, I can't believe how much of those crappy books I read as a kid.


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Still, I can't believe how much of those crappy books I read as a kid.
Also read the Han Solo trilogy sadly.

Just finished Charles Bukowski's 'Tales of Ordinary Madness'. A really good collection of plotless, stream of consciousness short stories.


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AJ Ayer - Language, Logic and Truth
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Gene Wolfe - The Knight (1st book of the Wizard Knight)


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Gene Wolfe - The Knight (1st book of the Wizard Knight)


I've been looking forward to reading some Wolfe, so I just bought the first two books of the Book of the New Sun (in one lovely volume). How are you enjoying him?


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Brahm_K wrote:
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Gene Wolfe - The Knight (1st book of the Wizard Knight)


I've been looking forward to reading some Wolfe, so I just bought the first two books of the Book of the New Sun (in one lovely volume). How are you enjoying him?


Is it "The Shadow and the Claw" ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-New-Sun-Fantasy-Masterworks/dp/1857989775
I have this volume and the next one. Honestly and seriously, I will not try to use adjectives in the next few sentences because I simply don't feel worthy enough to praise Gene Wolfe's masterpieces. I simply feel those are two (or four) of the best books I've ever read. At first it may feel a bit strange or slow or too weird but keep on reading and you will never regret it. And at times, it's also worth reading aloud, Wolfe's writing is that beautiful.
As for "The Knight" it's still too early to make comments (page 70) but eventhough it feels like a very simplistic fairytale I'm strangely compelled to keep on reading whenever I get the chance.


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Still, I can't believe how much of those crappy books I read as a kid.
Also read the Han Solo trilogy sadly.


I've read the first Han Solo book (The Paradise Snare) and enjoyed it. Although the ending was kind of lame. I haven't read the other two books.

Truce At Bakura I tried reading many times, but the book just bored me. Sad, too, since the story (taking place immediately after Return Of The Jedi) had so much potential.

Getting into books I actually enjoy, I've just started reading Mere Christianity by CS Lewis.


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Still, I can't believe how much of those crappy books I read as a kid.
Also read the Han Solo trilogy sadly.


I've read the first Han Solo book (The Paradise Snare) and enjoyed it. Although the ending was kind of lame. I haven't read the other two books.

Truce At Bakura I tried reading many times, but the book just bored me. Sad, too, since the story (taking place immediately after Return Of The Jedi) had so much potential.

Getting into books I actually enjoy, I've just started reading Mere Christianity by CS Lewis.
Truce at Bakura did suck. I read so many of those dismal novels. :sad:


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Antonakis wrote:
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Currently reading:

Gene Wolfe - The Knight (1st book of the Wizard Knight)


I've been looking forward to reading some Wolfe, so I just bought the first two books of the Book of the New Sun (in one lovely volume). How are you enjoying him?


Is it "The Shadow and the Claw" ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-New-Sun-Fantasy-Masterworks/dp/1857989775
I have this volume and the next one. Honestly and seriously, I will not try to use adjectives in the next few sentences because I simply don't feel worthy enough to praise Gene Wolfe's masterpieces. I simply feel those are two (or four) of the best books I've ever read. At first it may feel a bit strange or slow or too weird but keep on reading and you will never regret it. And at times, it's also worth reading aloud, Wolfe's writing is that beautiful.
As for "The Knight" it's still too early to make comments (page 70) but eventhough it feels like a very simplistic fairytale I'm strangely compelled to keep on reading whenever I get the chance.


Yep, Shadow and the Claw it is. Your recommendation pretty much confirms everything everyone else has been saying about it, so I can't wait to read it.

Scott Bakker- Neuropath

Apparently the most disturbing fiction book I will ever read. So far it hasn't dissapointed, with an incredibly frightening scene in which the villain alters a woman's brain so that she receives sexual pleasure while her head is being sawed open, causing her to ask for more. Daaaaaaamn.


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So I started reading The Road by Cormac McCarthy today, and damn, it's one of the toughest things I've ever read. I think noodles mentioned earlier that he read it all in a day, and I don't know how the fuck he did that...it's written in sentence fragments with minimal description and lots of metaphors so you basically have to concentrate on each word just to pick up what's going on. Still, I'm gonna read further (just 25 pages in) because it's supposed to be amazing and so far it is quite good, just really difficult.


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