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I don't have a problem with Trigg coming back, but I think he should have stayed in the middleweight division. He's not going to have any luck in the WW division, especially debuting against Josh Koscheck who is probably going to be too much for Trigg.

Trigg is a solid fighter, but he would be far more successful staying at middleweight.

As for Tito, I don't think he's relevant any longer, and we'll see that within a few fights. Unless he's evolved his game since his last few fights he had, he's not going to last very long.


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I bet Tito's contract is no longer than 3 fights. Then he will be done in the UFC forever.

Also read today that the UFC and Fedor are in talks, and if Fedor signs his first match will be against Brock for the title.

The 31st will be the press conference for the Affliction partnership. Dana White also said that there will be "lots of other crazy announcements."


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http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


So this settles it, Fedor = most overrated fighter ever.

I really wanted him in the UFC, but he can die in obscurity now.


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In other news Vitor Belfort is back in the UFC and will be taking on, in the headline of the PPV, Rich Frankliln at UFC 103.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


So this settles it, Fedor = most overrated fighter ever.

I really wanted him in the UFC, but he can die in obscurity now.


Yeah, what a steaming pile of manure that turned out to be.


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I watched some UFC late the other night........All the fights seemed to be mismatches that lasted less than one round... :unsure: is that normal?

I'll admit I actually kinda liked it just a bit though.


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following the reaper wrote:
I watched some UFC late the other night........All the fights seemed to be mismatches that lasted less than one round... :unsure: is that normal?

I'll admit I actually kinda liked it just a bit though.


It might of been real old UFC. Do you remember any of the names?


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If it was old UFC then don't take that for the norm, haha. Old UFC was a shambles.


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Old or new, doesn't matter. These aren't boxing matches. Underdogs win all the time.

But yeah, the old UFC is a bit of a circus. Quite entertaining, though. Haha.


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Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
If it was old UFC then don't take that for the norm, haha. Old UFC was a shambles.


Old UFC is awesome. I'm collecting all the old PPVs on DVD. It's friggin' brutal shit.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Fedor-signs-with-Strikeforce-will-fight-this-fa?urn=mma,180418


Yep.

He'll have a few good fights in Strikeforce, but ultimately people wont care.

Fedor is a joke.

Moving on.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Fedor-signs-with-Strikeforce-will-fight-this-fa?urn=mma,180418


Yep.

He'll have a few good fights in Strikeforce, but ultimately people wont care.

Fedor is a joke.

Moving on.


It was a stupid move, M1 / Strikeforce etc. are not in the same league as the fighters in the UFC.
But, yeah, moving right along.


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So,

Penn or KenFlo?

Silva or Griffen?


Penn is a great fighter, but so is KenFlo, and he wants that belt...
KenFlo has excellent Jiu-Jitsu skill... heard Penn is working hard on his conditioning.
Could go either way.
Gonna say Penn has the slight advantage, but that's the real beauty of the sport, all it takes is one slip-up and it's on the other foot, especially win it comes to two fighters as good on the ground as these two.


As for the Silva / Griffen, gonna have to say Silva; Griffen has heart and determination but The Spider is a phenomonal fighter.

I'd actually like to see Griffen take it, but I don't think it'll go down that way.


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Both fights are too hard to pick a winner. But I agree with you on both accounts. My money is on Penn and Silva. I want Florian to win though.

As for Forrest, he's got lots of heart and can take a beating. Look at the Rampage fight. But Anderson Silva is going to show the world why he is considered pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. I think this may go down the same way Silva dismantled Franklin, twice. Silva will get Griffin in the thai clinch and break his nose.

This has serious fight of the year capabilities here.

I'd like to hear other peoples picks, especailly on the lesser fights. As I am not too smart on some of the other fighters at 101.


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Both fights are too hard to pick a winner. But I agree with you on both accounts. My money is on Penn and Silva. I want Florian to win though.

As for Forrest, he's got lots of heart and can take a beating. Look at the Rampage fight. But Anderson Silva is going to show the world why he is considered pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. I think this may go down the same way Silva dismantled Franklin, twice. Silva will get Griffin in the thai clinch and break his nose.

This has serious fight of the year capabilities here.

I'd like to hear other peoples picks, especailly on the lesser fights. As I am not too smart on some of the other fighters at 101.


Yeah, that's pretty much my take on the whole thing... not too familiar with the other fighters though,

Lietes vs. Sakara... I'll go with Lietes, mainly because I don't know shit about Sakara.

Neer is a vicious, relentless bastard, though...
Fucking hell, I've been looking forward to this, though, especially since I missed the last one.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


So this settles it, Fedor = most overrated fighter ever.

I really wanted him in the UFC, but he can die in obscurity now.


First, sorry for the novel, but I am a diehard MMA fan, and especially a Fedor fan. I have been around since the Pride days watching him fight. While I can understand you may be upset that he's not in the UFC, you need to think about what you're saying and maybe re-educate yourself by watching all of Fedor's fights.

What fights are there for him in the UFC? While I'm bitter he's not in there, and think a fighter of his caliber belongs in the UFC, for the status and recognition of the legend that he is... But he still has a 3 fight deal with M-1, that he's part owner of, that he has to fulfill. Maybe after that there's a possibility of the UFC picking him up. The UFC would not co-promote with M-1, Strikeforce will. That's about all there was to it, if you're interested there's plenty of articles on the subject.

But lets break down what the UFC has to offer Fedor

Maybe Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, or even Cain Velasquez are any real sort of threat to Fedor. Even so, these men are mostly wrestlers at heart, and would easily be submitted by Fedor who can seemingly find a win whenever he sees fit. Shane Carwin I think would have more of a punchers chance, but I do not see Brock having any advantage at all in the stand up, in the clinch, or even if Fedor is on his back. Fedor is not Frank Mir.

Speaking of Frank Mir, he eats it real bad on the bottom, and Fedor is a master of top control and doing damage from the top. Then there's Randy Couture... A legend in all regards, but what can he offer Fedor at this time? Maybe Randy/Fedor 5 years ago would have made some sense, but not now. Who's left after that? Noguiera? Cro Cop? Gonzaga?

In Strikeforce he'll have some decent opponents. Allistair Overeem has been on a tear since his move to heavyweight, and even has a KO victory over K-1 knockout artist Badr Hari, in a K-1 fight. He's looking very impressive, and is Strikeforce's current heavyweight champion. Bret Rodgers is an impressive up and coming striker who just KO'd Arlovski, and hasn't lost any of his fights, and there's Fabricio Werdum, and possibly even Bobby Lashley at some point in the future.

There's really an equal talent pool either way. It may not be as exciting as an MMA fan, but really, there's relevant fights for Fedor outside of the UFC.

Am I bitter he's not in the UFC? Hell yes. But in no way is Fedor overrated. He is stuck with his business with M-1, and the UFC will not meet their demands. One can only hope that one day Fedor is free of M-1, and can fight in the UFC.

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I don't think Fedor is overrated. The guy is an amazing fighter, and I'm literally wowed every time I watch one of his fights.

That said, I think he (and M1) handled this UFC negotiation pretty terribly if reports are true. I've read that M1 wanted an equal partnership for Fedor's PPV's, which UFC would be stupid to accept. I can't imagine that, even with equal partnership, they'll make as much money with Strikeforce as they would with UFC.


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Yup. Fedor's manager is an asshole, and M-1 Global sucks. They basically wanted an equal partnership with the UFC when Fedor was fighting, meaning basically profits would be split down the middle, they'd get crazy promotion for their own company, etc. Fedor will not make as much money with Strikeforce compared to the UFC, not even close.

It's not about the money for them. I'm too lazy to dig up any articles, but you can do some hunting about M-1 and the recent talks with the UFC. I think they're just interested in trying to grow the Russian based company as large as they can, and Fedor is proud to be a part of that since he is a huge supporter of his own country, the man has even wined and dined with Putin many times...

I'm just hoping that Fedor parts ways with his M-1 contract after his next 3 fights, and his asshole manager.

Anyway, whenever I go on another stoned nightly rant, I'll post my picks for the upcoming UFC 101. :) I think I'll be wrong about a lot, there's a lot of close calls on this card. I don't really like Forrest Griffin, but I don't like Anderson Silva at 205 even more.


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