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Yeah, those unions... always classy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzLCk6Cn ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Fl3As ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkEBMXJ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuqM1LEi5c

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-hJU04K ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkEBMXJ ... re=related

there are hundreds of examples of union thuggery and intimidation.

http://www.unionfacts.com/crime-corrupt ... ader-fraud

http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/ ... stigating/


Shit, I could fill pages of this stuff, but who has time?


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cry of the banshee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/152201/3_reality-based_charts_your_right-wing_relatives_will_have_a_hard_time_ignoring/

3 Reality-Based Charts your right-wing relative will have a hard time ignoring

Not fan of hatin on the other side, even conservatives, but yeah.


Didn't read beyond the byline, because it's nothing new and I am sick and tired of dems acting like they didn't have a majority in both the house and senate from 2006 until 2010 (I mean don't you see the idiocy of blaming the "tea party" for things, even though they are a small majority in the House, and a minority in the senate, and have only been in congress for, what? seven, eight months? Meanwhile, the fact that the dems had a majority for four years, incidentally, about the time spending really started to increase, pretty much goes unmentioned by hacks like the one that authored that article). The same goes for reps that have abandoned their conservatism and have embraced big government.
You'll excuse me if I dismiss that article as nothing but more of the same old "right vs. left / Rep vs. Dem" hackery.


That being said at what point does the current administration start to take some responsibility? It's been three years, already, with no improvement in sight. But, yeah, let's just keep playing these cheap parlor games, it's working wonderfully.

Face it, as bad as W was 0 is even worse, and it's this idiotic "R vs D" garbage that will ensure either four more years of this walking talking finger-pointing perpetually vacationing disaster or whichever zio-neo-theo-con the GOP throws out there.
You may not give a shit, because you don't have a financial stake in things (not yet, but you will; all this will be waiting in the wings for you and your generation once you get out of Big U and enter the job market, err, well, what's left of it), but I have a wife, a home and two kids that I have to somehow not only support now, but also send to college.
On top of that, my wife and I will need to live off of something in about twenty years when we retire, and it doesn't look pretty. See to young kids like you, all this is nothing more than a semi-interesting topic for debate; for people like me, the way we are headed is a major concern, with tangible consequences; believe me, twenty years flies by fast, so the future is imminent.

But, yeah... keep enabling this idiot and the others that will surely follow in this revolving door circus.
Well done.


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That's the article. The jobs thing is interesting.

I do give a shit about the economy...if I was apathetic, I wouldn't spend any time discussing things with you or reading the news.

Agree about the finger-pointing bullshit.

I almost kind of want to see Ron Paul as president, if only because I'm pretty confident that he'll change SOMETHING. He seems pretty consistent in his views, at the very least. Plus I agree with ending the wars and legalizing marijuana; although his reasoning is completely different, the end result is the same.

All Obama does is make concessions


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That Obama ESTIMATED deficit wouldn't happen to be the result of Congress' clamp down on government spending and in particular as a result of negotiations regarding the debt ceiling?

Also they're estimates - as a finance manager I can tell you estimates are generally a crystal ball gazing exercise based on whatever assumptions you include.

Often the assumptions are made to create a result suited to whatever idea the writer wanted to promote.


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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york/mu ... 09825.html

I hope this doesn't offend frenchys delicate sensibilities.

:lol: :lol:


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cry of the banshee wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york/muslims-police-scuffle-rye-playland-over-amusement-park-123309825.html

I hope this doesn't offend frenchys delicate sensibilities.

:lol: :lol:


"It's clear, this all happened because we were Muslims."

Dry yer feckin eyes, eejit. It's not a headscarf ban, it's a headwear ban. And it makes perfect sense.

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And what the fuck is this related to? Surely, not the article I posted given that it said:

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In the America of 2011, there are scarcely any union organizing campaigns. There are fewer union members: Just 7 percent of private-sector employees are unionized, down from 35 percent in the 1950s.

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Cú Chulainn wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york/muslims-police-scuffle-rye-playland-over-amusement-park-123309825.html

I hope this doesn't offend frenchys delicate sensibilities.

:lol: :lol:


"It's clear, this all happened because we were Muslims."

Dry yer feckin eyes, eejit. It's not a headscarf ban, it's a headwear ban. And it makes perfect sense.
Yeah you're right but as to why it became such a huge ordeal and 100 police officers from all around were called in seems strange.

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traptunderice wrote:
Cú Chulainn wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york/muslims-police-scuffle-rye-playland-over-amusement-park-123309825.html

I hope this doesn't offend frenchys delicate sensibilities.

:lol: :lol:


"It's clear, this all happened because we were Muslims."

Dry yer feckin eyes, eejit. It's not a headscarf ban, it's a headwear ban. And it makes perfect sense.
Yeah you're right but as to why it became such a huge ordeal and 100 police officers from all around were called in seems strange.


Because instead of saying "aye, alright" and taking off their headware or leaving the ride, they decided to cause a row, and because it wasn't just a small family group but a large social event I'm guessing they decided it was better to be safe than sorry. I'm not saying it isn't possible that the police might have overreacted a little bit, but come on.

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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.

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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.


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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.
LOL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=4

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traptunderice wrote:
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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.
LOL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=4


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Listening to Maxine Walters (Democrat, California) on MSNBC makes me want to tear my ears out.


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Trapt, further to our 'libertarians like fascists' discussion a few days ago, the ASI did a great blogpost on it.

http://www.adamsmith.org/think-piece/ph ... ocracy%3f/


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Cú Chulainn wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.
LOL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=4


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Jon Huntsman Jr., a former Utah governor and ambassador to China, isn’t a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. And that’s too bad, because Mr. Hunstman has been willing to say the unsayable about the G.O.P. — namely, that it is becoming the “anti-science party.” This is an enormously important development. And it should terrify us.

To see what Mr. Huntsman means, consider recent statements by the two men who actually are serious contenders for the G.O.P. nomination: Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.

Mr. Perry, the governor of Texas, recently made headlines by dismissing evolution as “just a theory,” one that has “got some gaps in it” — an observation that will come as news to the vast majority of biologists. But what really got people's attention was what he said about climate change: “I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change.”

That’s a remarkable statement — or maybe the right adjective is “vile.”

The second part of Mr. Perry’s statement is, as it happens, just false: the scientific consensus about man-made global warming — which includes 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field, according to the National Academy of Sciences — is getting stronger, not weaker, as the evidence for climate change just keeps mounting.

In fact, if you follow climate science at all you know that the main development over the past few years has been growing concern that projections of future climate are underestimating the likely amount of warming. Warnings that we may face civilization-threatening temperature change by the end of the century, once considered outlandish, are now coming out of mainstream research groups.

But never mind that, Mr. Perry suggests; those scientists are just in it for the money, “manipulating data” to create a fake threat. In his book “Fed Up,” he dismissed climate science as a “contrived phony mess that is falling apart.”

I could point out that Mr. Perry is buying into a truly crazy conspiracy theory, which asserts that thousands of scientists all around the world are on the take, with not one willing to break the code of silence. I could also point out that multiple investigations into charges of intellectual malpractice on the part of climate scientists have ended up exonerating the accused researchers of all accusations. But never mind: Mr. Perry and those who think like him know what they want to believe, and their response to anyone who contradicts them is to start a witch hunt.

So how has Mr. Romney, the other leading contender for the G.O.P. nomination, responded to Mr. Perry’s challenge? In trademark fashion: By running away. In the past, Mr. Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, has strongly endorsed the notion that man-made climate change is a real concern. But, last week, he softened that to a statement that he thinks the world is getting hotter, but “I don’t know that” and “I don’t know if it’s mostly caused by humans.” Moral courage!

Of course, we know what’s motivating Mr. Romney’s sudden lack of conviction. According to Public Policy Polling, only 21 percent of Republican voters in Iowa believe in global warming (and only 35 percent believe in evolution). Within the G.O.P., willful ignorance has become a litmus test for candidates, one that Mr. Romney is determined to pass at all costs.

So it’s now highly likely that the presidential candidate of one of our two major political parties will either be a man who believes what he wants to believe, even in the teeth of scientific evidence, or a man who pretends to believe whatever he thinks the party’s base wants him to believe.

And the deepening anti-intellectualism of the political right, both within and beyond the G.O.P., extends far beyond the issue of climate change.

Lately, for example, The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page has gone beyond its long-term preference for the economic ideas of “charlatans and cranks” — as one of former President George W. Bush’s chief economic advisers famously put it — to a general denigration of hard thinking about matters economic. Pay no attention to “fancy theories” that conflict with “common sense,” the Journal tells us. Because why should anyone imagine that you need more than gut feelings to analyze things like financial crises and recessions?

Now, we don’t know who will win next year’s presidential election. But the odds are that one of these years the world’s greatest nation will find itself ruled by a party that is aggressively anti-science, indeed anti-knowledge. And, in a time of severe challenges — environmental, economic, and more — that’s a terrifying prospect.

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Listening to Maxine Walters (Democrat, California) on MSNBC makes me want to tear my ears out.
What are your ears in?

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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
Listening to Maxine Walters (Democrat, California) on MSNBC makes me want to tear my ears out.
What are your ears in?


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traptunderice wrote:
Cú Chulainn wrote:
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I would call in 100 police officers too, if I saw turbonned unshaven guys creaming with signs I couldn't read, women with blankets covering their bodies, and people en masse with effigies of the president burning.


Yeah... That's not what this was.
LOL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=4


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Ouch. Nothing new, though.

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