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Did you see Trauma? :D


No, just going from what I heard. What happens in Trauma?


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Did you see Trauma? :D


No, just going from what I heard. What happens in Trauma?


I'd imagine just what you heard....

A creepy old horror legend throwing in gratuitous nude shots of his 18 year old daughter, who is the world's hottest woman. FACT.


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Did you see Trauma? :D


No, just going from what I heard. What happens in Trauma?


I'd imagine just what you heard....

A creepy old horror legend throwing in gratuitous nude shots of his 18 year old daughter, who is the world's hottest woman. FACT.


Asia? Kiera Knightly if she was a crack whore.


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Did you see Trauma? :D


No, just going from what I heard. What happens in Trauma?


I'd imagine just what you heard....

A creepy old horror legend throwing in gratuitous nude shots of his 18 year old daughter, who is the world's hottest woman. FACT.


Asia? Kiera Knightly if she was a crack whore.


And if she was a lot more attractive

*Goes off searching for photographic proof*


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You listen to any Black Metal bands with NS lyrics/ideologies?


Aye. But they make enjoyable music, whilst the book is rubbish. So...


Well that's a matter of opinion.

So you're just a great big hypocrite.

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I don't know if it has been ever translated to English, but this is one brilliant masterpiece. This is a book you can re-read every 3 years and each time discover something new. Simply amazing.

For those who don't understand Russian I'll translate the title:
M. A. Bulgakov - Master and Margarita


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there is an international edition: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067976 ... s&v=glance

looks pretty good, i'll check it out.

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It is about Stalin? That is too depressing for me.


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It is about Stalin? That is too depressing for me.


Stalin? Are you mad? :shock:

The story takes place indeed somewhere in the 20s or 30s in USSR, but this is in no way a political book. It's about human nature. It has a big portion of mysticism, but the book only wins from it. It's an amazing piece of art that everyone should read.

A quote from the beginning of the book (I hope my translation won't ruin it):

- And I feel sorry too, - said the stranger, while sparkling with his eye, and continued: - But there is a question that troubles me: if there is no God, then who controls human lives and who controls order in the entire world?
- The man himself does, - Homeless hurried up to answer angrily this not very clear question.
- Pardon, - the stranger softly responded, - but in order to control one must have at least a precise plan for a decent period of time. Allow me to question how a man can control something if he can't engage for his own tomorrow?
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"I should raise an objection this way, - Berlioz thought, - yes, the man is mortal, no one argues against it. But the main thing is..."
But he couldn't finish his idea for the stranger started to speak:
- Yes, the man is mortal, but this is only a half of trouble. Worse is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that's the trick! And he can't even say what he is going to do this evening.
- Now, you are wrong here. I know today's evening more or less clearly. That is of course if a brick won't fall on me on Bronnaya street.
- A brick without rhyme or reason, - the stranger interrupted imposingly, - will never fall on anyone. And I personally assure you that it this kind of danger doesn't threaten you. You will die a different death.


EDIT: Oh, and Azrael posted a good link. There you can even read the first few pages of it (the first part of the dialogue that I tried to translate is at the very last page on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679760806/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-5819288-2386236#reader-page).


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Desolate wrote:
WinterIsComing wrote:
It is about Stalin? That is too depressing for me.


Stalin? Are you mad? :shock:

The story takes place indeed somewhere in the 20s or 30s in USSR, but this is in no way a political book. It's about human nature. It has a big portion of mysticism, but the book only wins from it. It's an amazing piece of art that everyone should read.

A quote from the beginning of the book (I hope my translation won't ruin it):

- And I feel sorry too, - said the stranger, while sparkling with his eye, and continued: - But there is a question that troubles me: if there is no God, then who controls human lives and who controls order in the entire world?
- The man himself does, - Homeless hurried up to answer angrily this not very clear question.
- Pardon, - the stranger softly responded, - but in order to control one must have at least a precise plan for a decent period of time. Allow me to question how a man can control something if he can't engage for his own tomorrow?
<...>
"I should raise an objection this way, - Berlioz thought, - yes, the man is mortal, no one argues against it. But the main thing is..."
But he couldn't finish his idea for the stranger started to speak:
- Yes, the man is mortal, but this is only a half of trouble. Worse is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that's the trick! And he can't even say what he is going to do this evening.
- Now, you are wrong here. I know today's evening more or less clearly. That is of course if a brick won't fall on me on Bronnaya street.
- A brick without rhyme or reason, - the stranger interrupted imposingly, - will never fall on anyone. And I personally assure you that it this kind of danger doesn't threaten you. You will die a different death.


EDIT: Oh, and Azrael posted a good link. There you can even read the first few pages of it (the first part of the dialogue that I tried to translate is at the very last page on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679760806/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-5819288-2386236#reader-page).



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Surely no stranger work exists in the annals of protest literature than The Master and Margarita. Written during the Soviet crackdown of the 1930s, when Mikhail Bulgakov's works were effectively banned, it wraps its anti-Stalinist message in a complex allegory of good and evil.


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This uncensored translation of Bulgakov's posthumously published masterpiece of black magic and black humor restores its sliest digs and sharpest jabs at Stalin's regime, which suppressed it. Writing in a punning, soaring prose thick with contemporary historical references and political irony, Bulgakov (1891-1940) did not make things easy for future translators. The story itself is demanding: the arrival of the Devil and his entourage in Stalin's Moscow frames a Faustian tale of a suppressed writer (the Master) and his devoted lover (his Margarita), set against a realistic narrative?the Master's rejected manuscript?of Pontius Pilate's police state in Jerusalem. An immediate contemporary classic when it was first serialized in Moscow in censored form in 1967-68, the novel suffered in its previous English translations, which were either incomplete or stylistically loose. This new translation, with its accuracy and depth, finally does justice to the politically and verbally outrageous qualities of the original. Careful footnotes explain and contextualize Bulgakov's dense allusions to, and in-jokes about, life under Stalin.


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Surely no stranger work exists in the annals of protest literature than The Master and Margarita. Written during the Soviet crackdown of the 1930s, when Mikhail Bulgakov's works were effectively banned, it wraps its anti-Stalinist message in a complex allegory of good and evil.


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This uncensored translation of Bulgakov's posthumously published masterpiece of black magic and black humor restores its sliest digs and sharpest jabs at Stalin's regime, which suppressed it. Writing in a punning, soaring prose thick with contemporary historical references and political irony, Bulgakov (1891-1940) did not make things easy for future translators. The story itself is demanding: the arrival of the Devil and his entourage in Stalin's Moscow frames a Faustian tale of a suppressed writer (the Master) and his devoted lover (his Margarita), set against a realistic narrative?the Master's rejected manuscript?of Pontius Pilate's police state in Jerusalem. An immediate contemporary classic when it was first serialized in Moscow in censored form in 1967-68, the novel suffered in its previous English translations, which were either incomplete or stylistically loose. This new translation, with its accuracy and depth, finally does justice to the politically and verbally outrageous qualities of the original. Careful footnotes explain and contextualize Bulgakov's dense allusions to, and in-jokes about, life under Stalin.


Hahahahahaha

Pheeew... Now, everything that was written during that time can be seen as something trying to fight Stalin and his regimes. Of course, Bulgakov as a part of Russian intelligentsia wasn't happy with the current rule for never in the history of Russia were Russian intellectuals happy with it. And it was always typical for Russian writers to caustically treat the current rule.

A thinking person will see far more in this book than just some kind of anti-Stalinist protest.


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hmmmmmmmmm.... but is there an actual story putting it all together?

a book where people just go around questioning things and wondering about the human condition isn't my cup of tea...

to be honest that dialogue didn't make me think "oh, i gotta read more of it".

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*reading some christian bullshit*


Why are you reading christian bullshit, O fellow Satanist?


what's wrong with Narnia :?


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hmmmmmmmmm.... but is there an actual story putting it all together?

a book where people just go around questioning things and wondering about the human condition isn't my cup of tea...

to be honest that dialogue didn't make me think "oh, i gotta read more of it".


Yes, it does have a story. A great story. It's unreal, but nevertheless it's a great one.

Maybe you didn't like it, because you weren't "linked" to the story. I suggest you read the first few pages on amazon. Bulgakov is without doubt my favourite writer. If you like this book then you can try A Heart of a Dog. This one is indeed more political oriented, but it makes me laugh every time I read it. Author's sence of humour won't appeal to everyone, but people who know the historical implication of that time will enjoy it that's for sure.


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T.I.E. wrote:
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*reading some christian bullshit*


Why are you reading christian bullshit, O fellow Satanist?


what's wrong with Narnia :?


it is for little kids. I wouldn't even read such crap when I was 7.


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I am currently reading this. I just started Night Masks. So far, so good.

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I am currently reading this. I just started Night Masks. So far, so good.

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excellent ook, salvatore is one of my favorite authors

now reading: Wizard's first rule by Terry Goodkind


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I am currently reading this. I just started Night Masks. So far, so good.

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Jeez :roll:


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T.I.E. wrote:
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*reading some christian bullshit*


Why are you reading christian bullshit, O fellow Satanist?


what's wrong with Narnia :?


Don't you see? Christianity is like this...trap people use to oppress the masses and books like this are.....

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......


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Radagast wrote:
T.I.E. wrote:
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*reading some christian bullshit*


Why are you reading christian bullshit, O fellow Satanist?


what's wrong with Narnia :?


Don't you see? Christianity is like this...trap people use to oppress the masses and books like this are.....

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......


Shut up, Craig, or I'll get you banned.




*dramatic pause*



Ok, maybe not, but still, for someone as anti-Christian as Stefan, to be reading straightforward propaganda that isn't even any good.... :roll:


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