Metal Reviews

For this country, he is.
Believing that what you brits view as what is and isn't "far left" applies to this country belies a woeful lack of knowledge on your part.

If an American leader tried to apply far left politics to your country, you'd soon frigging know the difference between that and Obama's centrist stuff, believe me. Exaggeration kinda loses you the argument - anything to the left of Reagan is not Communism.

Jeez, Carter, Roosevelt and LBJ were leftier than Obama, surely.

Whoa, post deleter!

I'm getting a firearm license in the near future, though.

Reaffirming prejudications since 1986.

Guns: keeping people safe from other people with guns since 1288.

After I was recently threatened by a Moroccan immigrant with a pistol after chasing him in the street because he had stolen some lass' wallet, and after the police laughs at you and says it's pointless to file charges since they all look alike and there's so many of them? Absolutely.

Awesome.
A handgun purchase is imminenet for me, as well.
I'd also like to get a Mossberg 500 for home protection.

That's why libs hate gun ownership; anything that smacks of self relaince, self determination and self protection is contrary to their plan of society's dependency on Big Government.

The only recourse is to take the law into your own hands, clearly. Jesus.

V, this may be opening a whole new can o'worms, but how will a shotgun protect your home? You're going to sleep with it locked and loaded next to your bed?



*facepalm*

Liberalism is all about self-reliance. We just think giving everyone death cannons isn't the best way to a civilised society.

First, a shotgun is best because you don't necessarilly have to aim; just shoot and the blast will make anybody not whacked out on crack run like the devil is chasing their ass.
And if that doesn't persuade any would be invader, a hide full of buckshot will.

Second, wrong.
Liberal politics = more government, more social programs, etc., the very opposite of self reliance.
How in the fuck does liberalism equate to self reliance?
Twilight Zone time.

Presumably shotguns also make massive holes in your walls and any family members who happen to be close by, right? Let's be reasonable here; I'm not Rio or Traptunderice, I am in favour of property rights, but I don't happen to believe that trespassing deserves a death sentence, and I think burglars whacked out on crack need time in rehab rather than getting shot. Call me a softie, but shooting them and putting them in a prison system full of drugs will only make them worse criminals than better members of society. Plus, I'm not prepared to risk my life by getting in a shootout with a crackhead to defend my stereo system, considering I'm insured and can just buy another.

And again, you're confusing small-state politics, liberalism, with big-state politics, socialism. Pretend I'm a libertarian, if that helps. I'm coming from a centrist viewpoint rather than what you think of as leftist, here - government shouldn't help people out who are capable of helping themselves. Universal benefits are bad. I agree. But some social programs are needed to help the genuinely worthy.

So, what are you supposed to do? Stand there and take a bullet like a man?

Or just, y'know, don't risk your life for money. Make sure your gun laws are sensible, jeez. We in the UK have to jump through more hoops to buy birdshot than you in the US do to get a sub-machine gun. I know you guys believe in the freedom to bear arms - what about the freedom to not get shot?

So then the average citizen has no guns, but every drug dealer and general scum bag does. Especially with the lack of border security, gun laws aren't going to do anything. The people who want to do harm will always be able to get there hands on what they want. More restrictive guns laws will just help the drug runner economy from the other side of the border.

Like I said, a warning blast is intimidating enough (usually) and if not, well, if you are in my home in the dead of night, then you are up to no good. And with a wife and kids, you're damn right I'm gonna shoot first and ask questions later.
Obviously, I am not idiotic enough to point a gun in the general direction of my family (at any rate, they would not be idiotic enough to get in front of it).

Holes can be patched; I am not concerned with a hole in my wall, you dig?

I think you know what I am talking about when I say that liberals (in America, I will reserve commentary on foreign politics for those that are savvy in them) want more government, hence less self-reliance; you can connect the dots, surely.

What if the burglar finds the gun and uses it against you/your family? What if you/your family accidentally discharge it? It's dark, you can't see what you're doing, you grab your gun and shoot - who have you shot? I just don't get this shoot first, ask questions later mentality. As far as your liberals over there go, sure, there's bullshit in some of what they say, agreed.

@ Orion - so pump up the border force! Make it harder for everyone to get guns, not just your average citizen! Why does some people have guns logically mean that hey, everyone has to have a gun?

...Thereby placing the average citizen more and more in the care of state-run security, increasing his of her dependency on the state. A conspiracy theorist's wet dream.

State-run security isn't perfect, but it's better than thousands of mini-securities, all run by individuals with different ideas. They're just mini-states, when all is said and done.

If the the border was secure, then that would be an option to look into for sure. That's a huge if though. The other problem then becomes, what about all the guns already in the country? It's a complex problem that's doesn't have a simple answer. Tougher gun laws would only be part of a solution to reigning in gun violence in this country. By themselves gun law would be rather impotent.

America is kinda its own example, true. Eh, I'm speaking in ideals here - I still think it's ridiculous that you guys can get assault rifles so easily, even if I accept that non-automatic weaponry is a-ok.