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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:22 am 
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Seriously, athletes in North America are such little cry babies.

The professional athletes in Australian leagues make a tiny fraction of what North American athletes make, and when I say tiny fraction, I mean our HIGHEST paid athletes make a tiny fraction.

And you know what? We have never had a lock-out in any of our major leagues. Because Australians stop crying over bullshit and get on with it!


You'd have to compare the revenues generated by Aussie Leagues with the revenues generated by the NHL, to be fair. There's no point in discussing slice sizes of a "small" cake. Whereas the NHL cake seems fat and tasty (slightly above 3.2 billion dollars it seems).

That said, I'm not defending them. When I think about Scott Gomez making 7 million per season, I feel the urge to bathe in my own vomit.


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Bruce_Bitenfils wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
Seriously, athletes in North America are such little cry babies.

The professional athletes in Australian leagues make a tiny fraction of what North American athletes make, and when I say tiny fraction, I mean our HIGHEST paid athletes make a tiny fraction.

And you know what? We have never had a lock-out in any of our major leagues. Because Australians stop crying over bullshit and get on with it!


You'd have to compare the revenues generated by Aussie Leagues with the revenues generated by the NHL, to be fair. There's no point in discussing slice sizes of a "small" cake. Whereas the NHL cake seems fat and tasty (slightly above 3.2 billion dollars it seems).

That said, I'm not defending them. When I think about Scott Gomez making 7 million per season, I feel the urge to bathe in my own vomit.


You'd be surprised. The television rights deal done for the AFL (the aussie rules league) which is our biggest, most popular league, last year was worth 1.25 *billion*. That's before you even take into account attendance, which on average isabout 40,000 people per game. During finals footy the average is above 70,000 per game. We're talking about a huge, rich as fuck league. A multi billion dollar league.

But because the league has extremely strict hard salary caps, the absolute cream of the crop, player wise, make 1 million a year. And that is only reserved for really elite players, probably less than 10 guys. An extremely good player, outside of the elite, might make $500,000 - $800,000 a year. Journeymen players might only make $200,000 and rookies even less.

Yes, when the 1.25 billion tv deal was announced there was a lot of negotiation between the players union and the league, and a lot of delays, but something as extreme as a lock out would never even be considered.


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
You'd be surprised.


I am, and I stand corrected.

Aussies :dio:


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The Toronto Maple Leafs alone make 500 million a year. The owners get paid nicely, why not the players who make them their money? I'm not defending them either, but what's fair is fair.


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The Toronto Maple Leafs alone make 500 million a year. The owners get paid nicely, why not the players who make them their money? I'm not defending them either, but what's fair is fair.


Agreed, but a lockout is unfair and disrespectful to the fans. The sole reason owners and players alike make that much money is because the fans are here to watch the show (TV rights) and buy the stuff. They can negotiate everything they want and make all the money they want, but they *owe* us the show.

edit: says the guy who has to wake up/stay awake in the middle of the night to watch games online and endure crappy image quality because the NHL is not broadcasted where he lives. But at least he's bought himself two t-shirts. That's something.


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Everybody starts somewhere.


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Stick with Bruce, he was a newcomer last year and he knows his shit.


Forgot to reply to this: this is the best compliment I have ever received, thanks buddy. It's entirely false though, my knowledge is like 5% of yours.

Which is thankfully more than enough to chastise you at fantasy hockey.


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No problem Brucetopher. And bring it. I'll destroy all you guys again, and with no shit head (Blake) I'll take the playoffs too.


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In other news, Cristobal Huet finally decided to sign with a lame Swiss club. He would have made a decent backup for Schneider in Vancouver, too bad.

*Deep voice* I'm a saaaaaaad panda.

(Speaking of which, where the hell is Bobby Lu going?)


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Apparently he's only willing to go to Florida.


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Metastable To Chaos wrote:
Apparently he's only willing to go to Florida.


Yeah, that I know, no news since? Well, good luck to him, I'm not sure I'd pick Luongo over Lindback or Theodore, especially for that price. Add in a few prospects and maybe I'd start to think about it.


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Go Habs Go! Oh shit...


That is taken from five years and a half ago, but you wrote it.


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I'm in for another year of fantasy hockey. I'll talk to Henrik too.


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Bruce_Bitenfils wrote:
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Go Habs Go! Oh shit...


That is taken from five years and a half ago, but you wrote it.


Haha. I think it was in a mocking tone to some of the former Habs who posted here. I'm sure Montreal lost at something and I made fun of them for it. That's a long time ago.

Also, my friend Nick is in this year. He was in the pool two years ago, better known as GoalieDiver.


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As if the Leafs are gonna start training camp with Reimer and Scrivens as their goalies. Hello 12th place, oh look it's already been reserved for us.


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GoalieDiver.


He's been down too long in the midnight sea.

edit: so it's Dev, Tompa, EBDoom, Meta2Kos, TTD, GoalieDiver, perhaps Henrik, and yours truly. So we're 7-8. We still need people.
HEY NOODLES. COME HERE, DUDE.

Still not interested in a very small buy-in? I'm okay with or without, just asking.


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We all do a $5 buy in? Winner takes the pot? If we could get 10 people, would be a very competitive pool and the winner walks away with $50. I'm down.


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Meh, I'm not too keen to be honest. I'm already inexplicably competitive when it comes to these things. :P

But if majority wants to then okay.


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Metastable To Chaos wrote:
Meh, I'm not too keen to be honest. I'm already inexplicably competitive when it comes to these things. :P

But if majority wants to then okay.


All the more reason to want to beat me.

Bring it punks.


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US$5?

We all have different currency.


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