New year greetings.

Guest · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:34 am

Sir Wanksalot wrote:

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What has France done that is so fucking great?

It's what France hasn't done that is so great. France hasn't been one of these pussy countries (like mine) that jumped when Bush whistled to destroy 2 countries. France had the balls to say "non" in the face of America, which shows reason and common sense. France hasn't acted like a fucking baby the way America has because Bush didn't get his own way, by injecting anti-French bullshit in every facet of society wherever possible. Freedom Fries? For fuck sake. France retains a strong sense of cultural identity, where the US prefers jingoistic nationalism.

TIE's picture is about capitalism rotting society from the inside out, where the government promotes prosperity when the reality is decay. And what better example of global capitalism is there than the US? The country is like a big shiny apple that is full of worms inside. So think about that before you slag off at other nations that reject what such a society represents before climbing on your soapbox.

And no, it's not just America. But America leads the capitalist world so it has to expect to recieve the criticism that globalisation generates.

You forgot to mention that France has shitloads of arab immigrants that live in poverty and the last thing Chirac wants is an uprising, so it is fair to say that Chirac acted purely out of self interest.

Stefan · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:52 am

V. wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

A curious fact: the eldest member of these forums is also the least mature...
your hatred for America will consume you from the inside out, grasshopper; as a buddhist, albeit a narcissistic, bigoted, quasi-buddhist, surely you are aware of the concept of karma.
Spreading negative messages (propaganda) is a negative act, and will boomerang three-fold...
and focusing solely on the negative is also a negative act, as is demonizing and vilifying a whole group of people with offensive and inaccurate propaganda (Goebbels would ne proud!).
Why do you insist on amplifying only the most negative and disgusting falsehoods of my great nation and her people? America has done a lot of good deeds internationally and at home; why not mention that once in a while? What has France done that is so fucking great?
Would you not be offended if someone splashed a picture of blacks eating fried chicken and watermelon, smoking crack and prostitutung their women, while a bunch of dirty children run loose?
What about a scene which depicts a bunch of sneering avaricious-looking Jews counting money? Are some negative stereotypes o.k., but not others?
Everyvody here would be pissed off, and rightfully so. Once again, hypocrisy rules the day... congratulations!
So revel in your smug self-righteousness (for now) and remember, karma will get you: you cannot hide from yourself.
One final note: you don't know a fucking thing about my country, or its people, so until you become a littlr less... ignorant, shall we say, why don't you keep your offensive nonsense to yourself?
I am not interested in arguing with you, dear T.I.E., merely pointing out my disgust with such brazen bigotry from one which has claimed to be so tolerant, so do not waste my time or yours in any efforts to engage me, there are better things on my agenda.
Oh, and Happy New Years!

the american flag on the tv and in the little girl's hands are what is misleading you V. (the return ! again, yeah !!!

)

this sorry reality applies to many people around the globe (in France too, of course !) and is triggered by our society... so, what I was trying with this shocking little "piece of art" was to state that everything wasn't fine and that, while we were enjoying this year's holiday season some other are in über crap with no perspective to get out of it...

immature ? maybe, but it's still true :(

V. · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:16 am

T.I.E. wrote:

V. wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

A curious fact: the eldest member of these forums is also the least mature...
your hatred for America will consume you from the inside out, grasshopper; as a buddhist, albeit a narcissistic, bigoted, quasi-buddhist, surely you are aware of the concept of karma.
Spreading negative messages (propaganda) is a negative act, and will boomerang three-fold...
and focusing solely on the negative is also a negative act, as is demonizing and vilifying a whole group of people with offensive and inaccurate propaganda (Goebbels would ne proud!).
Why do you insist on amplifying only the most negative and disgusting falsehoods of my great nation and her people? America has done a lot of good deeds internationally and at home; why not mention that once in a while? What has France done that is so fucking great?
Would you not be offended if someone splashed a picture of blacks eating fried chicken and watermelon, smoking crack and prostitutung their women, while a bunch of dirty children run loose?
What about a scene which depicts a bunch of sneering avaricious-looking Jews counting money? Are some negative stereotypes o.k., but not others?
Everyvody here would be pissed off, and rightfully so. Once again, hypocrisy rules the day... congratulations!
So revel in your smug self-righteousness (for now) and remember, karma will get you: you cannot hide from yourself.
One final note: you don't know a fucking thing about my country, or its people, so until you become a littlr less... ignorant, shall we say, why don't you keep your offensive nonsense to yourself?
I am not interested in arguing with you, dear T.I.E., merely pointing out my disgust with such brazen bigotry from one which has claimed to be so tolerant, so do not waste my time or yours in any efforts to engage me, there are better things on my agenda.
Oh, and Happy New Years!

the american flag on the tv and in the little girl's hands are what is misleading you V. (the return ! again, yeah !!!

)

this sorry reality applies to many people around the globe (in France too, of course !) and is triggered by our society... so, what I was trying with this shocking little "piece of art" was to state that everything wasn't fine and that, while we were enjoying this year's holiday season some other are in über crap with no perspective to get out of it...

immature ? maybe, but it's still true :(

Many things are wrong in this world, true, but placing blame on a single group of people is way too simple... there have always been and there will always be those wallowing on, as you say "uber-crap".
Is that my concern? I am too busy providing for my family to worry about the destitute, as sad and tragic as their lot may be.
Whatever your motive was the fact remains that you and others seem to blame americans for everything that is wrong in the world; thats crap, and smacks of bigotry (I did not say racism as that idiot wanksalot claimed, American is not a race, duh!) and is simple-minded to boot.
Are you honestly saying that the depiction of the American flag is purely incidental?
Don't insult my intelligence, I've heard it all before.
You don't live here, and I'll warrant that you probably haven't spent an extended amount of time here, so why base your judgement on a lack of experience? Get out of the echo chamber and think for yourself, it is quite liberating!

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:32 am

This picture is satire, no?

Did we all fall down and break our funny bones today?

Stefan · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:32 am

V. wrote:

T.I.E. wrote:

Are you honestly saying that the depiction of the American flag is purely incidental?
Don't insult my intelligence, I've heard it all before.
You don't live here, and I'll warrant that you probably haven't spent an extended amount of time here, so why base your judgement on a lack of experience? Get out of the echo chamber and think for yourself, it is quite liberating!

the flag was incidental, believe it or not...

and the USA are not to blame about everything wrong going on but, as the leading power on this planet, they aren't innocent either...

and, well, since we've gone through all this before, I won't comment any further...

all the best to you an to your family V.

lazy lizardtail · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:18 pm

I see that no-one made it their resolution to finally shut up once and for all about fucking politics.

Misha · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:22 pm

Happy saintraping newyear to everyone. Fuck this political bullshit, not now...

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:40 pm

Love and best wishes to all, happy new year.

As for Stefan's pic, I'm going to keep my head down, but I'd probably come down on his and Sir W's side if I got involved...

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:57 pm

Oh, what the hell....

Misha · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:03 pm

Zad wrote:

Oh, what the hell....

Agreed, and now cut the politics, you'll get V all fired up :wink:

Tlaloc · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:58 pm

*takes gloves off*

First of all I aint no professor, I don't know where you get that shit from.

Now if we want to go back to WW2 and America's extremely belated involvement in the war, consider that France's defenses were crushed by Germany. They put up a fight but their military was not adequate, so the only sensible thing to do is surrender or be slaughtered. It's a shame they hadn't managed to become such an industrial or economic power, but I guess you have to abduct and enslave hundreds of thousands of negroes to do that the quick and easy way. Oh yeah, and what is the best way to win a war? Nuke civillian cities of course, no wonder every other war fought by the yanks in the conventional way has been a major failure. How's that Korean war going?

You remind me of those lefties who conform to a "how to" guide for megaphoning social causes. You grab catch phrases like Racism, Bigatory, Discrimination, and bleat them out like a fucking sheep without having any ability to process and reconstruct information for yourself. If you manage to scattershot your carbon copied ideals you are bound to hit someone's favour.

Well I have an even lower tolerance of bullshit. And an American telling me that all is well in the world thanks to America reeks of a pile of bullshit so large that even you couldn't fit it in your mouth. Remember that Germany too refused to take part in your country's bid to destroy world peace forever, and do I see anti-German sentiment by the government? No, because they are fucking cowards. They choose an easy target like France, and use oversimplified arguments to back up their dummy spits. "Oh, we saved you in WW2"...after Britain did all the hard work. Nope, we won't be seeing America disrespecting an economic and industrial powerhouse like Germany any time soon.

There's no need for me to come to America to see it myself, it's already here. The McGlobalisation of an appalling culture based on greed, lies, superficiality, and tittytainment writhes into every democratic country and turns it into a confused and meanspirited marketplace. You are nothing unless you are rich, ignorant, cold-blooded, and selfish.

Quote:

Also, Saddam was going to switch to the Euro as the market to trade by, and that would made Europe stronger while hurting the American economy... an invasion would have, and did, change that;

Jesus! Imagine that! A challenge to American supremacy by Europe? And even worse, by an Arab!!! We can't have that. If that is true, then that alone gives me every reason in the world to fucking hate you.

Happy new year motherfucker. Be sure to properly rinse the blood out of your American flag before you raise it.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:07 pm

One thing that has pissed me off over the last few days: strikes. NY tube try and strike - it's illegal. We had a tube strike over here on New Year's Eve and the result: generally ignored. Why is it illegal, O land of hope and freedom? More like Communist Russia, you ask me.

Stefan · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:10 pm

Sir Wanksalot wrote:

*takes gloves off*

First of all I aint no professor, I don't know where you get that shit from.

Now if we want to go back to WW2 and America's extremely belated involvement in the war, consider that France's defenses were crushed by Germany. They put up a fight but their military was not adequate, so the only sensible thing to do is surrender or be slaughtered. It's a shame they hadn't managed to become such an industrial or economic power, but I guess you have to abduct and enslave hundreds of thousands of negroes to do that the quick and easy way. Oh yeah, and what is the best way to win a war? Nuke civillian cities of course, no wonder every other war fought by the yanks in the conventional way has been a major failure. How's that Korean war going?

You remind me of those lefties who conform to a "how to" guide for megaphoning social causes. You grab catch phrases like Racism, Bigatory, Discrimination, and bleat them out like a fucking sheep without having any ability to process and reconstruct information for yourself. If you manage to scattershot your carbon copied ideals you are bound to hit someone's favour.

Well I have an even lower tolerance of bullshit. And an American telling me that all is well in the world thanks to America reeks of a pile of bullshit so large that even you couldn't fit it in your mouth. Remember that Germany too refused to take part in your country's bid to destroy world peace forever, and do I see anti-German sentiment by the government? No, because they are fucking cowards. They choose an easy target like France, and use oversimplified arguments to back up their dummy spits. "Oh, we saved you in WW2"...after Britain did all the hard work. Nope, we won't be seeing America disrespecting an economic and industrial powerhouse like Germany any time soon.

There's no need for me to come to America to see it myself, it's already here. The McGlobalisation of an appalling culture based on greed, lies, superficiality, and tittytainment writhes into every democratic country and turns it into a confused and meanspirited marketplace. You are nothing unless you are rich, ignorant, cold-blooded, and selfish.

Quote:

Also, Saddam was going to switch to the Euro as the market to trade by, and that would made Europe stronger while hurting the American economy... an invasion would have, and did, change that;

Jesus! Imagine that! A challenge to American supremacy by Europe? And even worse, by an Arab!!! We can't have that. If that is true, then that alone gives me every reason in the world to fucking hate you.

Happy new year motherfucker. Be sure to properly rinse the blood out of your American flag before you raise it.

*bows in agreement*
(but I'm pretty sure V. will counter each and every of your argument with some Fox News rethorical expertise... 'cause that's how good he is...)

JÃ¼rgen · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:17 pm

Drop the fucking politics already. Left-wing or right-wing, fuck off.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:19 pm

Jürgen wrote:

Drop the fucking politics already. Left-wing or right-wing, fuck off.

What's your problem?

Tlaloc · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:49 pm

I've said all I have to say on this topic.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:51 pm

Sir Wanksalot wrote:

I've said all I have to say on this topic.

Heh, political arguments round here do tend to be a bit of a merry-go-round.

Orion · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:22 pm

T.I.E. wrote:

Sir Wanksalot wrote:

*takes gloves off*

First of all I aint no professor, I don't know where you get that shit from.

Now if we want to go back to WW2 and America's extremely belated involvement in the war, consider that France's defenses were crushed by Germany. They put up a fight but their military was not adequate, so the only sensible thing to do is surrender or be slaughtered. It's a shame they hadn't managed to become such an industrial or economic power, but I guess you have to abduct and enslave hundreds of thousands of negroes to do that the quick and easy way. Oh yeah, and what is the best way to win a war? Nuke civillian cities of course, no wonder every other war fought by the yanks in the conventional way has been a major failure. How's that Korean war going?

You remind me of those lefties who conform to a "how to" guide for megaphoning social causes. You grab catch phrases like Racism, Bigatory, Discrimination, and bleat them out like a fucking sheep without having any ability to process and reconstruct information for yourself. If you manage to scattershot your carbon copied ideals you are bound to hit someone's favour.

Well I have an even lower tolerance of bullshit. And an American telling me that all is well in the world thanks to America reeks of a pile of bullshit so large that even you couldn't fit it in your mouth. Remember that Germany too refused to take part in your country's bid to destroy world peace forever, and do I see anti-German sentiment by the government? No, because they are fucking cowards. They choose an easy target like France, and use oversimplified arguments to back up their dummy spits. "Oh, we saved you in WW2"...after Britain did all the hard work. Nope, we won't be seeing America disrespecting an economic and industrial powerhouse like Germany any time soon.

There's no need for me to come to America to see it myself, it's already here. The McGlobalisation of an appalling culture based on greed, lies, superficiality, and tittytainment writhes into every democratic country and turns it into a confused and meanspirited marketplace. You are nothing unless you are rich, ignorant, cold-blooded, and selfish.

Quote:

Also, Saddam was going to switch to the Euro as the market to trade by, and that would made Europe stronger while hurting the American economy... an invasion would have, and did, change that;

Jesus! Imagine that! A challenge to American supremacy by Europe? And even worse, by an Arab!!! We can't have that. If that is true, then that alone gives me every reason in the world to fucking hate you.

Happy new year motherfucker. Be sure to properly rinse the blood out of your American flag before you raise it.

*bows in agreement*
(but I'm pretty sure V. will counter each and every of your argument with some Fox News rethorical expertise... 'cause that's how good he is...)

Obviously you don't know much about Fox news. Little V has said could be considered having to do with Fox news in anyway. He's not getting on here claiming George Bush is the best president ever or anything of that ilk. He just isn't claiming America isn't the Great Satan like all you want to be Khomeinis portray it every chance you get.

V. · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:13 pm

T.I.E. wrote:

Sir Wanksalot wrote:

*takes gloves off*

First of all I aint no professor, I don't know where you get that shit from.

Now if we want to go back to WW2 and America's extremely belated involvement in the war, consider that France's defenses were crushed by Germany. They put up a fight but their military was not adequate, so the only sensible thing to do is surrender or be slaughtered. It's a shame they hadn't managed to become such an industrial or economic power, but I guess you have to abduct and enslave hundreds of thousands of negroes to do that the quick and easy way. Oh yeah, and what is the best way to win a war? Nuke civillian cities of course, no wonder every other war fought by the yanks in the conventional way has been a major failure. How's that Korean war going?

You remind me of those lefties who conform to a "how to" guide for megaphoning social causes. You grab catch phrases like Racism, Bigatory, Discrimination, and bleat them out like a fucking sheep without having any ability to process and reconstruct information for yourself. If you manage to scattershot your carbon copied ideals you are bound to hit someone's favour.

Well I have an even lower tolerance of bullshit. And an American telling me that all is well in the world thanks to America reeks of a pile of bullshit so large that even you couldn't fit it in your mouth. Remember that Germany too refused to take part in your country's bid to destroy world peace forever, and do I see anti-German sentiment by the government? No, because they are fucking cowards. They choose an easy target like France, and use oversimplified arguments to back up their dummy spits. "Oh, we saved you in WW2"...after Britain did all the hard work. Nope, we won't be seeing America disrespecting an economic and industrial powerhouse like Germany any time soon.

There's no need for me to come to America to see it myself, it's already here. The McGlobalisation of an appalling culture based on greed, lies, superficiality, and tittytainment writhes into every democratic country and turns it into a confused and meanspirited marketplace. You are nothing unless you are rich, ignorant, cold-blooded, and selfish.

Quote:

Also, Saddam was going to switch to the Euro as the market to trade by, and that would made Europe stronger while hurting the American economy... an invasion would have, and did, change that;

Jesus! Imagine that! A challenge to American supremacy by Europe? And even worse, by an Arab!!! We can't have that. If that is true, then that alone gives me every reason in the world to fucking hate you.

Happy new year motherfucker. Be sure to properly rinse the blood out of your American flag before you raise it.

*bows in agreement*
(but I'm pretty sure V. will counter each and every of your argument with some Fox News rethorical expertise... 'cause that's how good he is...)

No... I think the right-wingers are just slightly more idiotic than the left-wingers: TIE if you think that I believe a single word out of that rightwing propaganda machine known as FOXNews, you are a bigger cretin than I thought.
and as for wanksalots misguided diatribe: I never said that my country was a saint, but as usual he takes a term like Mc Globalisation (and has the nerve to accuse me of using catch phrases!) and somehow equates that with America. Again you obviously have never been here so, why don't you shut the fuck uo? You come across as an arrogant and ignorant child with your threadbare Mcglobalisation tripe... idiot.
Any of you here should know that I despise the superficial and crass aspects of WESTERN SOCIETY, so there is no argument there.
The point is, most people that I know are not a bunch of organic robots obsessed with material acquisition and are probably not much different than the rest of you. remember 90% of the wealth in this country is held by something like 10% of the people, so like myself, 90% of the american population are just trying to feed their familys... of course some like their toys such as boats, cars, etc., but are you telling me that you Europeans do not?
Stop with the smug self-rightrousness, you are no better than we are, though you like to pretend that you are.
As for Iraq, to paraphrase you: Jesus! imagine America pursuing her interests! Whether right or wrong ( I happen think that we should NOT have invaded Iraq, and furthermore, I was opposed to it from the beginning) we have a huge interest in the oil of the region.
Enough! all this will turn into another case of every Europran on the board jumping and ganging up on America and that is also old
and I am clearly wasting my time.
As for this little gem:
"Happy new year motherfucker. Be sure to properly rinse the blood out of your American flag before you raise it."
Grow up fool, I don't even own a flag or a sticker or anything else with a flag on it... I am obviously dealing with an ignorant tool that thinks such sophomoric statements are somehow deep and insightful.

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:23 pm

Leave it to V to bring down the mood of a positive thread. I overlooked the picture with no problem.

On a different note, I had a great night. I hope everybody else had a great New Years. Sorry your New Years sucked lizardtail.

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