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i agree that smoking should be banned in closed public places.

another place where i'd like to see it banned is concerts. it's awful to have to be there packed like in a train during rush hour and the fucker next to you has to SMOKE - SMOKE!!! fuck! you're there gasping for air and the bastard next to you LIGHTS UP A FUCKING EXHAUST PIPE IN YOUR FACE?

Actaully, I don't smoke I just wondered what you would say.

dirty hippie

Please, spare me. The majority of people who drink, smoke as well. So if you go to a bar, you should expect people to be smoking. Since when was polluting your liver a better past time than polluting your lungs.

I got news for ya, you're still polluting your body with alcohol jsut the same as the smoker is polluting their body with cigarettes. It's all the same.

I swear, non-smokers are the whiniest bunch of cunts ever. If you're so concerned with your health, you shouldn't be drinking eithier.

Plus, I'm still waiting for the idiots over at truth.com to produce a corpse from second-hand smoke. 10 years later, and it's still propaganda.

true, Eternal Idol but drinking alcohol hasn't got any negative effects for the people around you, smoking howeber, has.

i'm not concerned about my health that much, since (i think) it takes a bunch of second-hand smoke to "make a whole cigarette". what i don't like is simply the smoke - it's fucking annoying, keep that shit to yourself.

If you don't want to smell the smoke stay the hell away from me.

Never been proven. Just some old bag from NYC, the most polluted place on earth, is the only "proof" there is of it. I'm sure breathing in smog from factories had more to do with that than second-hand smoke.

A reataruant being smoke-free I have no problem with, but what kind of daft fuck goes to a bar and doesn't expect smoking? 90% of people in every bar I've ever been in were smoking. Banning smoking in bars will only lead to the bars closing. That's what happened in California after the smoking ban was passed. Bars closed up shop at rapid pace due to lack of business.

it worked pretty good in Ireland though but that's prolly because they can't live without booze

I agree with Kathaarian etc.. I don't smoke blah blah blah but blowing smoke into someone's eyes and being a personal space nazi are equal crimes of dickheadedness.

Well, yeah. Blowing smoke in someone's face should be met with getting smashed in the face with a fire extinquisher, Irreversible style.

Yea exactly my point, this world is getting so filthy second hand smoke is the least of the worry. In my town, they hired these big shot lawyers from New York to oppose the smoking ban, but it got passed anyway because the smokers didn't get out and vote, evidently, they were too busy smoking. Banning smoking in public places like restuarants and airports, I can see, but someone's bar??? It should be up to the owner of a bar to decide what the rules are not some haiku writing, limp-wristed dip shit. This is not a health issue it's a rights issue. If they can take smoking away from a bar what's next, red meat?

Bollocks. If I come into your bar, it's to pickel my liver. My lungs are fucking sacred territory. I've smoked, and I've (and still do) drunk (drink), and drinking's more fun. Smokers are whiny fucks more than non-smokers are, complaining about rights. What rights, shithead? If you want t6o kill yourself, I'll tell you how, but don't take me with you. My life is mine to fuck up in my way.

And what have you got against haiku, you fuck?

You are not going to die from second hand smoke you goddamned pussies. Hell you would be lucky to live that long. You are more likely to die from a terrorist attack, lightening strike, or getting ran over on the way to the bar, then to inhale so much second hand smoke that it actually kills you. It's ok to drink yourself to death, but god forbid someone lights up while you do it.

Yea I know what you are going to say, "But Arthur, drinking doesn't hurt anyone around you fag! lolz"



75% of all rapes and domestic violence cases are alcohol related. When a sports team wins a big game and people riot and destroy property, hey guess what, they are drunk. Yea drinkers never hurt anyone do they? Even though causing violent and erratic behavior is what drinking is known for, we better kick all the smokers out of the bars so we don't die. The point is that it is bullshit to say drinking is ok but not smoking because of harmful effects. They are both bad, period end of story.

They took smoking out of restuarants, fine. They took it out of airlines, fine. But goddamnit when the government can walk into a man's bar that he owns and tell him he isn't allowed to have a cigarette in it, well then my friends, something is seriously fucked. You have to look at the bigger picture. Taking away that right is just one more small step in erroding everyone's freedom in the almighty name of health and safety.

Getting rid of smoking in bars may not seem like a big deal, but where will you draw the line? But hey, as long as you are safe and healthy, who cares what you can do right?



And fuck haiku.

I neither drink nor smoke (well, tobacco, anyway) and I can say that while it's true that no one has ever died from secondhand smoke, it's still extremely unpleasant for nonsmokers to deal with. I happen to be living in the basement/ground floor of my dorm this year, and I hate it when people stand outside my window and smoke (despite the fact they're supposed to be 20 feet away from any building on campus). I'm mildly allergic, and I just hate the goddamn smell. It really doesn't need to be in my own damn room. That being said, banning smoking in bars is rather silly - bars are the kind of places you should expect to find smokers. Obviously I agree with banning it in airplanes and the like, but I'm on the smokers' side when it comes to bars and other such places. It's all about finding the appropriate place for your particular vice.

Finally, both sides have their share of whiners, so no one can really criticize the other when it comes to that.

I wouldn't go to a bar that I can't smoke. I think they should leave it to bar owners and some of them should be non smoking and others should be free. Banning it altogether is stupid, it's a fucking bar, smoking is part of the whole drinking ritual for most people.

How bout my right to kill myself, huh ? Gimme that at least.

I don't smoke, but I think bars are the only public place where smoking can't be banish.

I don't smoke tobacco, but I want my right to smoke herb in certain bars. I want coffee shops (bars), tobacco shops and bars, and free-smoke bars.

I call bullshit.

Sweden has done exactly that, and most pubs showed an INCREASE in sales after the banning of smoking in pubs was started.

And it's not about dying from smoking in my case, it's the fact that it smells fucking nasty. I don't want to wake up feeling like i gave a blowjob to an exhaust pipe.

You wanna smoke, sure thing buddy, just don't do it near me.

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Yeah, that's what I meant.

Exactly, sir (Zad also speaks the truth).

The whole drinking = smoking thing is just bullshit smokers throw up to justify their whining.

Don't hit me with this "smoking doesn't cause accidents/rapes" nonsense. It proves nothing other than some people are fucking idiots (which we knew anyway).

The point of banning smoking is that it gives the freedom of choice. Previously, to the ban, I could walk into a bar and choose whether or not to drink alcohol. The decision to get coated with smoke, however, was made for me.

The argument "if you don't like smoke, don't go to a bar" is utter crap. As I said, if someone can't go without a cigarette for a few hours, they are the ones that should be looking at themselves, not the people that like waking up the next day not reeking of smoke.

You also have the right to not smoke at home. But, you people seem to WANT the "Moral Police" in your lives, so don't be surprised when they come knocking on your door and take your Metal away someday. You let your Governments have an inch, they will take a mile.

An interesting aside though, I read an article about cops in San Antonio, Texas going into bars and arresting people for being drunk inside the bar. What are you guys' thoughts on this? They justified it as a preemptive strike on Drunk Driving, but didn't ask if the people if they were even planning on driving after leaving the bar. I mean I'm sure at least a few were planning on taking a cab home, or walking. See, this is what scares me, first smoking was banned in San Antonio, know it seems they have focused the war on actual drinking now. It's all a domino effect, and the Fundies will stop at nothing to take all of your fun away.

It seems Orwell was right all along.