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Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:02 am

It's a glorification of a horrendous, brutal fairytale, no matter what meaning to assign to it; and an excuse for Gibson to express his anti-semitic bullshit.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:06 am

AngelRipper16 defending Passion of the Christ.

:lol:

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:21 am

Ok, I know my opinion may come across as a bit cocky sometimes. But it's still a good movie. And Gibson is a fine actor AND director. Doesn't anyone agree with me?

:unsure:

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:22 am

FrigidSymphony wrote:

It's a glorification of a horrendous, brutal fairytale, no matter what meaning to assign to it; and an excuse for Gibson to express his anti-semitic bullshit.

I don't care if it's an excuse or whatnot. As long as it's good.

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:26 am

AngelRipper16 wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

It's a glorification of a horrendous, brutal fairytale, no matter what meaning to assign to it; and an excuse for Gibson to express his anti-semitic bullshit.

I don't care if it's an excuse or whatnot. As long as it's good.

But ittttt not. its a guy gettin wipped.

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:35 am

FrigidSymphony wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

It's a glorification of a horrendous, brutal fairytale, no matter what meaning to assign to it; and an excuse for Gibson to express his anti-semitic bullshit.

I don't care if it's an excuse or whatnot. As long as it's good.

But ittttt not. its a guy gettin wipped.

And again, you fail to see the bigger picture. But I see where this is going. If I don't stop now I'm soon gonna have the entire forum against me. :cool:

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 1:36 am

nah im just drunk. a guy getting whipped can be fun sometimes, but when it's jc it's just fun. Suckeerrrrrrr.

noodles · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 3:14 am

The Reader - Like it a lot. Ralph Fiennes is good at looking sad and uncomfortable.

rio · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 9:40 am

AngelRipper16 wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

"Star Trek IX: Insurrection"
A good little Star Trek with a little clumsiness but a good plot and a real villain (F Murray Abraham).

"Star Trek X: Nemesis"
In my opinion, the worst with Final Frontier.

Seems like you Lucy, has been on quite the Star kick lately.

The Passion Of The Christ - watched it yesterday. Godd movie and although a bit dragged out it's still an underrated piece of work. I quite like the way Mel Gibson makes his movies. There isn't very much dialogue or talking but sometimes a face expression can tell more than words (This is even more evident on "Apocalypto").

passion of the christ is torture porn

No, it's not. And the fact that you write something like that, tells me that you have absolutely no clue on what what you're talking about
It's a film trying to express certain emotions and atmospheres which you simply cannot understand. The last hours of Jesus wasn't the "fairytale" you got showed down your throat growing up. It was so much more than that. In fact, The Bible is sometimes horrific and quite brutal. And this is exactly what the film manages to express. That Jesus was most certainly afraid of what was coming, yet he had to endure it all for mankind. It's epic and it's touching. Period.

Long drawn out passages of explicit violence and relentless suffering put in front of us for the purposes of entertainent?

TORTURE PORN

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

AngelRipper16 wrote:

No, it's not. And the fact that you write something like that, tells me that you have absolutely no clue on what what you're talking about
It's a film trying to express certain emotions and atmospheres which you simply cannot understand. The last hours of Jesus wasn't the "fairytale" you got showed down your throat growing up. It was so much more than that. In fact, The Bible is sometimes horrific and quite brutal. And this is exactly what the film manages to express. That Jesus was most certainly afraid of what was coming, yet he had to endure it all for mankind. It's epic and it's touching. Period.

I'm confused as to what part of this has to do with it not being a fairytale, because it is a fairytale and drenching it in 6 gallons of blood and crappy music doesn't make it any more legitimate.

even if we embrace it as 'truth,' it's still not touching. wow, this guy goes through horrible torture for a few hours and then gets to live in heaven forever, I feel so sorry for him compared to people stuck in DPRK torture camps who endure decades of this kind of thing and then die.

plus the antisemitism

in short: passion of the christ is a torture-porn film that mel gibson made because he has a hardon for blood and antisemitism and his supply of holocaust photos was getting way worn out

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 11:25 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

No, it's not. And the fact that you write something like that, tells me that you have absolutely no clue on what what you're talking about
It's a film trying to express certain emotions and atmospheres which you simply cannot understand. The last hours of Jesus wasn't the "fairytale" you got showed down your throat growing up. It was so much more than that. In fact, The Bible is sometimes horrific and quite brutal. And this is exactly what the film manages to express. That Jesus was most certainly afraid of what was coming, yet he had to endure it all for mankind. It's epic and it's touching. Period.

I'm confused as to what part of this has to do with it not being a fairytale, because it is a fairytale and drenching it in 6 gallons of blood and crappy music doesn't make it any more legitimate.

even if we embrace it as 'truth,' it's still not touching. wow, this guy goes through horrible torture for a few hours and then gets to live in heaven forever, I feel so sorry for him compared to people stuck in DPRK torture camps who endure decades of this kind of thing and then die.

plus the antisemitism

in short: passion of the christ is a torture-porn film that mel gibson made because he has a hardon for blood and antisemitism and his supply of holocaust photos was getting way worn out

I really don't care if anyone compares this movie with people being tortured for decades...

I really don't care about antisemitism...

This movie is not "torture porn". That's ridiculous. And anyone who says that, doesn't know what they're talking about.

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 11:28 pm

rio wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

"Star Trek IX: Insurrection"
A good little Star Trek with a little clumsiness but a good plot and a real villain (F Murray Abraham).

"Star Trek X: Nemesis"
In my opinion, the worst with Final Frontier.

Seems like you Lucy, has been on quite the Star kick lately.

The Passion Of The Christ - watched it yesterday. Godd movie and although a bit dragged out it's still an underrated piece of work. I quite like the way Mel Gibson makes his movies. There isn't very much dialogue or talking but sometimes a face expression can tell more than words (This is even more evident on "Apocalypto").

passion of the christ is torture porn

No, it's not. And the fact that you write something like that, tells me that you have absolutely no clue on what what you're talking about
It's a film trying to express certain emotions and atmospheres which you simply cannot understand. The last hours of Jesus wasn't the "fairytale" you got showed down your throat growing up. It was so much more than that. In fact, The Bible is sometimes horrific and quite brutal. And this is exactly what the film manages to express. That Jesus was most certainly afraid of what was coming, yet he had to endure it all for mankind. It's epic and it's touching. Period.

Long drawn out passages of explicit violence and relentless suffering put in front of us for the purposes of entertainent?

TORTURE PORN

If you only look on the outside, that is exactly what you get.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun May 17, 2009 11:28 pm

AngelRipper16 wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

No, it's not. And the fact that you write something like that, tells me that you have absolutely no clue on what what you're talking about
It's a film trying to express certain emotions and atmospheres which you simply cannot understand. The last hours of Jesus wasn't the "fairytale" you got showed down your throat growing up. It was so much more than that. In fact, The Bible is sometimes horrific and quite brutal. And this is exactly what the film manages to express. That Jesus was most certainly afraid of what was coming, yet he had to endure it all for mankind. It's epic and it's touching. Period.

I'm confused as to what part of this has to do with it not being a fairytale, because it is a fairytale and drenching it in 6 gallons of blood and crappy music doesn't make it any more legitimate.

even if we embrace it as 'truth,' it's still not touching. wow, this guy goes through horrible torture for a few hours and then gets to live in heaven forever, I feel so sorry for him compared to people stuck in DPRK torture camps who endure decades of this kind of thing and then die.

plus the antisemitism

in short: passion of the christ is a torture-porn film that mel gibson made because he has a hardon for blood and antisemitism and his supply of holocaust photos was getting way worn out

I really don't care if anyone compares this movie with people being tortured for decades...

I really don't care about antisemitism...

This movie is not "torture porn". That's ridiculous. And anyone who says that, doesn't know what they're talking about.

You are ignorant. It is totally torture porn.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

AngelRipper16 wrote:

I really don't care if anyone compares this movie with people being tortured for decades...

I really don't care about antisemitism...

This movie is not "torture porn". That's ridiculous. And anyone who says that, doesn't know what they're talking about.

okay, so your stance is 'anyone who doesn't agree with me isn't worth arguing with because i'm always right forever forever forever'

good to know, now I can file you under my 'people to ignore' list.

noodles · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 12:06 am

JCVD - Awesome. The only part I didn't really like was the really overt breaking fourth wall when he floated up above the seeling.

cry of the banshee · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 6:01 am

Taste The Blood Of Dracula - (1969)

"Drink! Drink it, you fools! Don't insult the master!"

One of the better Hammer outings.

AngelRipper16 · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 11:21 am

Dead Machine wrote:

AngelRipper16 wrote:

I really don't care if anyone compares this movie with people being tortured for decades...

I really don't care about antisemitism...

This movie is not "torture porn". That's ridiculous. And anyone who says that, doesn't know what they're talking about.

okay, so your stance is 'anyone who doesn't agree with me isn't worth arguing with because i'm always right forever forever forever'

good to know, now I can file you under my 'people to ignore' list.

No, that was not what I meant. I'm sorry if you got that impression. I was tired last night when I wrote that. Of course I want to argue. And I can definetely see why that movie isn't for everyone. And I do respect everybodys opinion. Don't write me off yet... :wub:

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 1:57 pm

Ignoring the obvious religious debate that seems to be brewing here, I saw The Passion when it came out in theaters. It was certainly quite brutal/disturbing, but what can I say? That's how Roman capital punishment was in those days (in fact, many historians have actually suggested that The Passion is a fairly tame depiction of what REALLY happened during the Crucifixion).

And, for the record, how is anti-Semitism any worse than anti-Christianism?

Goat · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 2:01 pm

Seinfeld26 wrote:

And, for the record, how is anti-Semitism any worse than anti-Christianism? Both are equally bad.

*winces*

Christians may have been persecuted around Roman times, but they haven't faced systematic annihilation like Jews have. Besides, people can be anti-Christian without being white supremacist fucktards, which is a bit harder with Anti-Semitism.

As for Teh Passion, it might have been worth watching if there was more to it than Jesus getting beaten up.

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2009 2:08 pm

Goat wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

And, for the record, how is anti-Semitism any worse than anti-Christianism? Both are equally bad.

*winces*

Christians may have been persecuted around Roman times, but they haven't faced systematic annihilation like Jews have. Besides, people can be anti-Christian without being white supremacist fucktards, which is a bit harder with Anti-Semitism.

As for Teh Passion, it might have been worth watching if there was more to it than Jesus getting beaten up.

Nonetheless, both anti-Semitism and anti-Christianism fall under the "prejudice" category. Whether you're against the Christian religion is your call. But discriminating against Christians is just as bad as discriminating against Jews.

I, too, agree that it would've been nice to see something like the Resurrection in The Passion. But I think Gibson was simply trying to make us (the viewers) experience what Christ voluntarily went through during the Crucifixion for our own good. Not to mention that bringing in the Resurrection would've probably stirred up even more controversy among non-Christians.

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