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I'd go with Kali. Although a Dogan god would be cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon


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The Esoteric Cult Of Dagon? No way man, I read my Lovecraft.

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So what about the poll for most metal god?

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I have not read through the whole post, so this might have been said before.

There cannot be a god, since gods existence is subjective.
There is a god, since gods existence is subjective.

See where this is going? The only proof for, or against, god is your personal opinion.
Just because a billions of people think there is a god, does not make it true, and vice versa.
It's fun to discuss, but don't ever try to convince someone that you know the truth about this matter.


And come to think about it, if God only exists in your own head, it's quite hard to believe.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:58 am 
Zeth wrote:
I have not read through the whole post, so this might have been said before.

There cannot be a god, since gods existence is subjective.
There is a god, since gods existence is subjective.

See where this is going? The only proof for, or against, god is your personal opinion.
Just because a billions of people think there is a god, does not make it true, and vice versa.
It's fun to discuss, but don't ever try to convince someone that you know the truth about this matter.


And come to think about it, if God only exists in your own head, it's quite hard to believe.


Your point didn't really make logical sense.


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Jaden wrote:
Zeth wrote:
I have not read through the whole post, so this might have been said before.

There cannot be a god, since gods existence is subjective.
There is a god, since gods existence is subjective.

See where this is going? The only proof for, or against, god is your personal opinion.
Just because a billions of people think there is a god, does not make it true, and vice versa.
It's fun to discuss, but don't ever try to convince someone that you know the truth about this matter.


And come to think about it, if God only exists in your own head, it's quite hard to believe.


Your point didn't really make logical sense.

Did not really expect it to either. I guess what I'm trying to say is, that Gods existence is based on faith and conviction, and for that matter you can't really argue if a person is right or wrong, since it's subjective.
You can't argue with something like: "I think there is a God."
"Yeah, well you are wrong, because I don't think so."

It don't matter if Gods existence is logical or shizz, it does not have to be, since God only exist in our minds. It's a psychological existence.
Like a lot of other things. You can't prove that there are ghosts, you have just chosen to believe it (at some level) or not . Believing in God is, of course, still a personal choice and I can't make out why people try to prove that it is a global truth.
Geez, I'm bad at explaining this. :lame:


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Jaden wrote:
Zeth wrote:
I have not read through the whole post, so this might have been said before.

There cannot be a god, since gods existence is subjective.
There is a god, since gods existence is subjective.

See where this is going? The only proof for, or against, god is your personal opinion.
Just because a billions of people think there is a god, does not make it true, and vice versa.
It's fun to discuss, but don't ever try to convince someone that you know the truth about this matter.


And come to think about it, if God only exists in your own head, it's quite hard to believe.


Your point didn't really make logical sense.

Did not really expect it to either. I guess what I'm trying to say is, that Gods existence is based on faith and conviction, and for that matter you can't really argue if a person is right or wrong, since it's subjective.
You can't argue with something like: "I think there is a God."
"Yeah, well you are wrong, because I don't think so."

It don't matter if Gods existence is logical or shizz, it does not have to be, since God only exist in our minds. It's a psychological existence.
Like a lot of other things. You can't prove that there are ghosts, you have just chosen to believe it (at some level) or not . Believing in God is, of course, still a personal choice and I can't make out why people try to prove that it is a global truth.
Geez, I'm bad at explaining this. :lame:


Well, no one will argue that some people don't at least believe that God exists. But believing something to exist does not make it exist. Believing that the Earth was flat did not make the Earth flat. It's sort of a moot point.


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Jaden wrote:
Zeth wrote:
Jaden wrote:
Zeth wrote:
I have not read through the whole post, so this might have been said before.

There cannot be a god, since gods existence is subjective.
There is a god, since gods existence is subjective.

See where this is going? The only proof for, or against, god is your personal opinion.
Just because a billions of people think there is a god, does not make it true, and vice versa.
It's fun to discuss, but don't ever try to convince someone that you know the truth about this matter.


And come to think about it, if God only exists in your own head, it's quite hard to believe.


Your point didn't really make logical sense.

Did not really expect it to either. I guess what I'm trying to say is, that Gods existence is based on faith and conviction, and for that matter you can't really argue if a person is right or wrong, since it's subjective.
You can't argue with something like: "I think there is a God."
"Yeah, well you are wrong, because I don't think so."

It don't matter if Gods existence is logical or shizz, it does not have to be, since God only exist in our minds. It's a psychological existence.
Like a lot of other things. You can't prove that there are ghosts, you have just chosen to believe it (at some level) or not . Believing in God is, of course, still a personal choice and I can't make out why people try to prove that it is a global truth.
Geez, I'm bad at explaining this. :lame:


Well, no one will argue that some people don't at least believe that God exists. But believing something to exist does not make it exist. Believing that the Earth was flat did not make the Earth flat. It's sort of a moot point.

Yeah that's somewhat where I'm getting at. And it's quite pointless to discuss something like Gods existence when it's just a matter of opinion based on only faith and fiction. But still very interesting.
Well anyway, Jack Nicholson is god, and he does exist :dio:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:54 pm 
But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.


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But knowledge of his/her's/theirs existence is a matter of faith. Therefore, this topic, and all logical conversations about it, are completely fucking pointless.


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Jaden wrote:
But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.

Why?
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But knowledge of his/her's/theirs existence is a matter of faith. Therefore, this topic, and all logical conversations about it, are completely fucking pointless.

And what he said.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:05 pm 
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But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.

Why?


it's just like this.. aherm... the door is either open or closed - regardless of what you might believe it is when you're not there... see?


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I heard a very well put together argument once that human cloning could prove definitively that the CHRISTIAN god does not exist. Something having to do with the soul, and that a human that was not created naturally would not have one, and as the soul is the driving force behind conciousness and personality if the clone had even a single original or creative thought, it would disprove the existence of a soul, and therefore, the christian god. I'll try to find it later and post it here. For no reason.


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Astaroth wrote:
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Jaden wrote:
But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.

Why?


it's just like this.. aherm... the door is either open or closed - regardless of what you might believe it is when you're not there... see?

Good example. But if it all comes down to proving the fact that there is a door, or god, gods existence is still based on faith.
You can show me the closed door in a material world. But you can only tell me about god. You can tell me about your dreams too, but that does not make them real for me.
As long as gods existence is only based upon faith, I'm a bit skeptical. And the fact that you choose to believe in a god after you have found knowledge about it. It's not like you would wake up some day with no prior knowledge and say "I believe in the father, the son and the holy spirit".


Not sure where Im going with this.


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The path to God is inside yourself, not through some priest or holy book.


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Zeth wrote:
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Jaden wrote:
But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.

Why?


it's just like this.. aherm... the door is either open or closed - regardless of what you might believe it is when you're not there... see?

Good example. But if it all comes down to proving the fact that there is a door, or god, gods existence is still based on faith.
You can show me the closed door in a material world. But you can only tell me about god. You can tell me about your dreams too, but that does not make them real for me.
As long as gods existence is only based upon faith, I'm a bit skeptical. And the fact that you choose to believe in a god after you have found knowledge about it. It's not like you would wake up some day with no prior knowledge and say "I believe in the father, the son and the holy spirit".


Not sure where Im going with this.


But your statement that God's existence is based on faith is false. His existence is fact or fiction (like the door example).

Perhaps what you mean to say is that for people who do believe in God, they rely on faith in doing so. However, that does not change the fact that God does or does not ultimately exist.


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But knowledge of his/her's/theirs existence is a matter of faith. Therefore, this topic, and all logical conversations about it, are completely fucking pointless.


Yet one must have made the decision to take on a faith in the first place. People are not born believing that Jesus Christ died for their sins. They made a decision at one point, and thus it still boils down to logic: why do they choose to have faith? Faith is not in itself good enough: some people have faith in a God that tells them to fly planes into towers, or tells them to conquer Jerusalem and slaughter millions of muslims -- or whatever. Faith is nothing more than an attempt to run away from logic, from reality. Faith is for the weak.


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some people have faith in a God that tells them to fly planes into towers


This is your typical American reasoning to explain those events. The truth is completely different.


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The path to God is inside yourself, not through some priest or holy book.


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Jaden wrote:
Zeth wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
Zeth wrote:
Jaden wrote:
But God'e existence is not a matter of faith. Either he truly does or does not exist.

Why?


it's just like this.. aherm... the door is either open or closed - regardless of what you might believe it is when you're not there... see?

Good example. But if it all comes down to proving the fact that there is a door, or god, gods existence is still based on faith.
You can show me the closed door in a material world. But you can only tell me about god. You can tell me about your dreams too, but that does not make them real for me.
As long as gods existence is only based upon faith, I'm a bit skeptical. And the fact that you choose to believe in a god after you have found knowledge about it. It's not like you would wake up some day with no prior knowledge and say "I believe in the father, the son and the holy spirit".


Not sure where Im going with this.


But your statement that God's existence is based on faith is false. His existence is fact or fiction (like the door example).

Perhaps what you mean to say is that for people who do believe in God, they rely on faith in doing so. However, that does not change the fact that God does or does not ultimately exist.

I still think that God is a creation of the mind.

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some people have faith in a God that tells them to fly planes into towers


This is your typical American reasoning to explain those events. The truth is completely different.

And that is the typical answer. Of course there are people who do it for faith, as much as there are people who do it for greed, ignorance, political statements etc.


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