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That was very well-written Jaden.

But holy shit, what is considered the "bible belt" in Canada only has a 66% Christian population? The Christian population in my state is at 82%, with the "non-religious" population hovering around 9%. That may have something to do with the fact that only 17% of Tennesseans have a college degree. The total population of this state is at 5,689,283 rather than 124,000.

It's like being Taake in a giant power metal festival.

being the atheist that I am your article doesn't really shed any new light on the matter to me - i already knew that theist often have a definition on atheism different from atheists themselves, and that many of them call atheism a religion, which is quite the opposite.
Hopefully theists will get something out of your aticle... though... i don't like the last few lines all that much, because it sounds rather weak.. it's too "plz accept us" and "i don't wan't to fight for what i believe in". Sry, but that is how i interpret that last bit, i know you probably don't mean this. Furthermore, I don't see how being a hotheaded atheist (when confronted by theist who want to preach!?) and so on exclude them from being harmless.
Besides, theist are just as "aggressive" as atheist if not more. So i don't see the point with "apologizing" on behalf of atheism that some atheist act as jehovas witness.. or whatever.

i admit i don't get the "aggresive" part all that well, because i don't know what you (or Vern for that matter) exactly put in the word as such. You can be aggressive in many ways.

Astaroth wrote:

I don't think I disagreed with any of this. In fact, I reiterated a lot of these points.

I'm kind of confused in your part about Naturalism... I thought Atheism meant not believing in any sort of spirits/anything beyond the natural world too? :X

nice article though, GJ

the review thread poster bot is gone too

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Jaden is such a hardcore atheist, that he no longer believes in himself and has ceased to exist.

Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:36 am ]
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This was published by the Ubyssey (UBC student newspaper) a few weeks ago. Ought to be online, but they're still behind, so I just took a legible picture of the article. Enjoy, hopefully. My next article (entitled "Mecha-morals: the ethics of artificial intelligence) will be published on Friday. I may link that as well, if there is an interest. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/ ... rticle.jpg

Author:	Seinfeld26 [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:18 pm ]
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Enjoyed your article. Your ideas are well thought out, and I like how you were able to write it without throwing punches at Christians and other Theists.

Author:	Dylan@Metalreviews [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:43 pm ]
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That was very well-written Jaden. But holy shit, what is considered the "bible belt" in Canada only has a 66% Christian population? The Christian population in my state is at 82%, with the "non-religious" population hovering around 9%. That may have something to do with the fact that only 17% of Tennesseans have a college degree. The total population of this state is at 5,689,283 rather than 124,000. It's like being Taake in a giant power metal festival.

Author:	Seinfeld26 [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:12 pm ]
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Dylan@metalreviews wrote: That was very well-written Jaden. But holy shit, what is considered the "bible belt" in Canada only has a 66% Christian population? The Christian population in my state is at 82%, with the "non-religious" population hovering around 9%. That may have something to do with the fact that only 17% of Tennesseans have a college degree. The total population of this state is at 5,689,283 rather than 124,000. It's like being Taake in a giant power metal festival. Hey, Christians can be college educated too. Though you're right in that there are quite a few that actually condemn education. Probably because they're afraid it will weaken their faith (which really makes one question how strong their faith is in the first place, if it's that easily tarnished). Anyway, where I live (near Detroit), the population is also largely Christian. In fact, my ex-girlfriend was once having lunch at a soul food restaurant with somebody. The two of them began talking about Atheism (she's a Lutheran, btw), and as they began discussing it, almost everybody at the restaurant started staring at them and giving them funny looks. I wonder when more Christians will realize that learning how non-religious people think is not only necessary, but actually healthy for their faith.

Author:	Astaroth [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:14 pm ]
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being the atheist that I am your article doesn't really shed any new light on the matter to me - i already knew that theist often have a definition on atheism different from atheists themselves, and that many of them call atheism a religion, which is quite the opposite. Hopefully theists will get something out of your aticle... though... i don't like the last few lines all that much, because it sounds rather weak.. it's too "plz accept us" and "i don't wan't to fight for what i believe in". Sry, but that is how i interpret that last bit, i know you probably don't mean this. Furthermore, I don't see how being a hotheaded atheist (when confronted by theist who want to preach!?) and so on exclude them from being harmless. Besides, theist are just as "aggressive" as atheist if not more. So i don't see the point with "apologizing" on behalf of atheism that some atheist act as jehovas witness.. or whatever. i admit i don't get the "aggresive" part all that well, because i don't know what you (or Vern for that matter) exactly put in the word as such. You can be aggressive in many ways.

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Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:33 pm ]
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Astaroth wrote: being the atheist that I am your article doesn't really shed any new light on the matter to me - i already knew that theist often have a definition on atheism different from atheists themselves, and that many of them call atheism a religion, which is quite the opposite. Hopefully theists will get something out of your aticle... though... i don't like the last few lines all that much, because it sounds rather weak.. it's too "plz accept us" and "i don't wan't to fight for what i believe in". Sry, but that is how i interpret that last bit, i know you probably don't mean this. Furthermore, I don't see how being a hotheaded atheist (when confronted by theist who want to preach!?) and so on exclude them from being harmless. Besides, theist are just as "aggressive" as atheist if not more. So i don't see the point with "apologizing" on behalf of atheism that some atheist act as jehovas witness.. or whatever. i admit i don't get the "aggresive" part all that well, because i don't know what you (or Vern for that matter) exactly put in the word as such. You can be aggressive in many ways. I don't think I disagreed with any of this. In fact, I reiterated a lot of these points.

Author:	Astaroth [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:50 pm ]
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Jaden wrote: Astaroth wrote: being the atheist that I am your article doesn't really shed any new light on the matter to me - i already knew that theist often have a definition on atheism different from atheists themselves, and that many of them call atheism a religion, which is quite the opposite. Hopefully theists will get something out of your aticle... though... i don't like the last few lines all that much, because it sounds rather weak.. it's too "plz accept us" and "i don't wan't to fight for what i believe in". Sry, but that is how i interpret that last bit, i know you probably don't mean this. Furthermore, I don't see how being a hotheaded atheist (when confronted by theist who want to preach!?) and so on exclude them from being harmless. Besides, theist are just as "aggressive" as atheist if not more. So i don't see the point with "apologizing" on behalf of atheism that some atheist act as jehovas witness.. or whatever. i admit i don't get the "aggresive" part all that well, because i don't know what you (or Vern for that matter) exactly put in the word as such. You can be aggressive in many ways. I don't think I disagreed with any of this. In fact, I reiterated a lot of these points. i know.. that is not what i meant. I meant the end should have been more "aggressive" or contain all the elements of your articles if you like.. not just the so-called aggressitivity among atheist and less "come on over here you big white shark.. let me kiss you!!!!"

Author:	noodles [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:15 pm ]
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I'm kind of confused in your part about Naturalism... I thought Atheism meant not believing in any sort of spirits/anything beyond the natural world too? :X nice article though, GJ

Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:54 pm ]
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noodles wrote: I'm kind of confused in your part about Naturalism... I thought Atheism meant not believing in any sort of spirits/anything beyond the natural world too? :X nice article though, GJ Nope. It's not that all-encompassing. Technically, atheism only claims that God[s] do not exist. But definitely, most atheists are also naturalists (though I've met some exceptions). Oh, and thanks.

Author:	Goat [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:52 am ]
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Good article. Nice to see some love for Russell. Has Trev been banned or something?

Author:	noodles [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:23 am ]
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the review thread poster bot is gone too foram go boom?

Author:	Goat [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:41 am ]
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noodles wrote: the review thread poster bot is gone too foram go boom? Sort of, upon checking my implant chip. Hopefully things will be back to usual soon, and Trevor will have returned from the nth dimension where this sent him.

Author:	TheOctavarius [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:53 am ]
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ANONYMOUS HAS COME!

Author:	Afro Lint [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:48 pm ]
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TheOctavarius wrote: KARMA HAS COME!

Author:	Kathaarian [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:53 am ]
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Jaden was struck down by our mighty Lord for his blasphemy. Praise be upon him.

Author:	DevotedWalnut [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:49 pm ]
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same thing happened to Tyrion.

Author:	Jaden [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:58 am ]
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! I'm alive! My next feature is published tomorrow. I'll link it.

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Author:	Eternal Idol [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:52 pm ]
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Jaden is such a hardcore atheist, that he no longer believes in himself and has ceased to exist.

Author:	Azrael [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:31 am ]
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Eternal Idol wrote: Jaden is such a hardcore atheist, that he no longer believes in himself and has ceased to exist.

Author:	Dylan@Metalreviews [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:22 am ]
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Unfortunately, I think the only option for them is to create new accounts. Unless there is someway to un-ban someone that I don't know about it, it was just an extremely unfortunate fluke for them. I'm also still not sure what it was about them that casued them to accidently get banned.