Zad wrote:
Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Whoever owns the Jews, owns the world.
It clearly isn't the Belgians...
No, because we were in a civil war according to british newspapers
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| Author: | noodles [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:50 pm ] |
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these always provide a dose of cheer for the end of year celebrations http://www.projectcensored.org/censored_2008/index.htm |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:10 pm ] |
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I can't read this. It would just make me depressed about the world's and America's status of affairs. |
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| Author: | Karmakosmonaut [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:40 pm ] |
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Boring. Next! |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:00 pm ] |
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: Boring. Next!
Yes, thanks. This kind of complacent attitude toward government is why we have dictatorships throughout the world. I think we are getting very close to a state where we should march on washington, like our ancestors (some of us, I KNOW mine were there) and reclaim our freedom. I can't be said enough, a militia of citizens can reach the millions, the military would simply be outmanned. The wouldn't even be there because once that many people declare a change in government, it usually happens. Popular soveirnty declares that all people decide thier governments. If things don't get better (and they will not - judging by reading Joe Scarborough's book) We're getting close to the revelotuionary war, pt. 2, that is if cvonplacency and laziness don't replace people's desire to be free and for justice to rule the land. |
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| Author: | EdgeOfForever [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:34 pm ] |
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Adveser wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: Boring. Next! Yes, thanks. This kind of complacent attitude toward government is why we have dictatorships throughout the world. I think we are getting very close to a state where we should march on washington, like our ancestors (some of us, I KNOW mine were there) and reclaim our freedom. I can't be said enough, a militia of citizens can reach the millions, the military would simply be outmanned. The wouldn't even be there because once that many people declare a change in government, it usually happens. Popular soveirnty declares that all people decide thier governments. If things don't get better (and they will not - judging by reading Joe Scarborough's book) We're getting close to the revelotuionary war, pt. 2, that is if cvonplacency and laziness don't replace people's desire to be free and for justice to rule the land. zzz. |
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| Author: | showmaster [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:53 pm ] |
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: Boring. Next!
+1 |
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| Author: | noodles [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:28 pm ] |
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Adveser wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: Boring. Next! Yes, thanks. This kind of complacent attitude toward government is why we have dictatorships throughout the world. I think we are getting very close to a state where we should march on washington, like our ancestors (some of us, I KNOW mine were there) and reclaim our freedom. I can't be said enough, a militia of citizens can reach the millions, the military would simply be outmanned. The wouldn't even be there because once that many people declare a change in government, it usually happens. Popular soveirnty declares that all people decide thier governments. If things don't get better (and they will not - judging by reading Joe Scarborough's book) We're getting close to the revelotuionary war, pt. 2, that is if cvonplacency and laziness don't replace people's desire to be free and for justice to rule the land. I doubt it, there hasn't even been a widespread demand for Bush's impeachment yet... people don't think their freedom's are being cut back, and even if they do generally their situation isn't bad enough for them to want to anything as drastic as taking arms against the government. |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:42 pm ] |
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Impeachment is not going to be the answer. The entire government is going to have to burned them reformed if we expect to have the same amount of personal freedom we want. Back when there was less the government could do about certain things, the church was controlling the people's will. Now, there isn't likely a damn thing they can do, but congress has been making up for them ever since under new, improved, excuses for us to not be responsible for ourselves. The democratic and republican parties are almost exactly the same these days, that's not my opinion, but how it is. Every politician that does not blindly follow their parties' line will simply be squashed in the next election and any of their efforts moot, and if you haven't noticed by the new democratic congress, just as much money gets spent and just as little progress gets made no matter how's in charge. I was under the impression that Europe was more free than america at this point, and to my disappointment, that just isn't true either, it seems like a world-wide ban on individual rights and the rights of owners is going down quick. Perhaps when China gets a little more civilized and overthrows thier commie government, thier be a new trend. The future looks bleak. |
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| Author: | noodles [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:48 pm ] |
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i don't think the future has ever not looked bleak... different shit different day etc |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:00 pm ] |
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Adveser wrote: I can't be said enough, a militia of citizens can reach the millions, the military would simply be outmanned. The wouldn't even be there because once that many people declare a change in government, it usually happens. You don't honestly think a bunch of non-trained poorly armed citizens could take on the expensively well-trained American military without being slaughtered?
The problem is despite what you believe people really don't want their independence and freedom back from the government, religion, tv or whatever authority decides what they think. They're perfectly fine being told what to do and how to feel. |
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| Author: | Eternal Idol [ Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:14 pm ] |
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Why bother impeaching him now? He's gone in 12 months, and the proceedings would take about that long, if not longer, to complete anyways. The damage has already been done, and I don't think the so-called opposition, the Democrats, are really all that concerned with the things he's done. If nothing else, they are hoping for one of their own to get a slice of that pie. Hillary would love to get her filthy mitts on the near absolute power Bush has set up for the Presidency. She's just as much a hawk as he is. |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:43 pm ] |
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traptunderice wrote: Adveser wrote: I can't be said enough, a militia of citizens can reach the millions, the military would simply be outmanned. The wouldn't even be there because once that many people declare a change in government, it usually happens. You don't honestly think a bunch of non-trained poorly armed citizens could take on the expensively well-trained American military without being slaughtered? The problem is despite what you believe people really don't want their independence and freedom back from the government, religion, tv or whatever authority decides what they think. They're perfectly fine being told what to do and how to feel. Of course, there is no debating that. But, the government would have to hand over control if enough people demanded it because they US is not going to become the next Nazi Germany to remain in power. (we hope) I doubt the military (that being the individuals that make it up) would fight its own citizens (not that this type of thinking stopped the british) |
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| Author: | Goat [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:59 am ] |
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Adveser wrote: I doubt the military (that being the individuals that make it up) would fight its own citizens
Of course they would. And revolution's a silly idea in these circumstances. Without a vast majority of the public on your side, how will you keep control after the revolution, assuming it suceeds? Out comes the guillotine and the one-way tickets to Siberia... It's a fact that those thrust into power are never ready for it, and are often as bad if not worse than the previous tyrants -> Robespierre, Stalin etc. |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:58 am ] |
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Zad wrote: Adveser wrote: I doubt the military (that being the individuals that make it up) would fight its own citizens Of course they would. And revolution's a silly idea in these circumstances. Without a vast majority of the public on your side, how will you keep control after the revolution, assuming it suceeds? Out comes the guillotine and the one-way tickets to Siberia... It's a fact that those thrust into power are never ready for it, and are often as bad if not worse than the previous tyrants -> Robespierre, Stalin etc. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:03 pm ] |
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traptunderice wrote: Stalin wasn't thrown into power. Lenin was thrust into power and Lenin wasn't awful despite being a dictator. Trotsky and him were actually admirable.
I wouldn't go as far as to say they were admirable. They were both pretty cold-blooded, and it's all very well believing that Communist Russia would've been the land of milk and honey under Trotsky, but I doubt it. Any revolution that's willing to kill people because they think differently is inherently flawed. |
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| Author: | Karmakosmonaut [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:30 pm ] |
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Whoever owns the Jews, owns the world. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:12 am ] |
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: Whoever owns the Jews, owns the world.
It clearly isn't the Belgians... |
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| Author: | Fingon [ Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:22 pm ] |
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Zad wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: Whoever owns the Jews, owns the world. It clearly isn't the Belgians... No, because we were in a civil war according to british newspapers
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| Author: | Mintrude [ Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:48 am ] |
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Fingon wrote: Zad wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: Whoever owns the Jews, owns the world. It clearly isn't the Belgians... No, because we were in a civil war according to british newspapers According to some people you don't exsist anyway  .
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| Author: | Karmakosmonaut [ Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:34 am ] |
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Yeah, such as me 
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