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Over here if you gunned down a gang member, you'd probably be hailed as a hero by the gutter press. Any UK posters remember the Tony Martin case? (not him out of Black Sabbath) He shot two burglars, killing one, while they were running away. The tabloids made him into some sort of hero for the common man, when he was really an angry farmer with a rifle.

EDIT: Turns out the guy had some pretty severe mental issues, and is apparently a BNP supporter, which lowers my opinion on him quite a bit more. (The BNP stuff, not the mental problems)

Mintrude wrote:

Tony Martin is? I suppose it's just to be expected. The BNP is like the KKK and NRA in one...

I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst.

hellraiser_xes wrote:

Bullshit! BULLSHIT!!!!!!

During the war in Croatia many men went in battle TO FIGHT IN THEIR OWN WAR... FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM! They killed alot of fucking serbians in battle and many still have PTSP and still every now and then snap! You have no idea how hard is to live with father who haves PTSP. You don't know how hard it is when your father often remembers of war trauma during his sleep and when he awakes he think that there is still war!

SO DON'T YOU BULLSHIT ME YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT!

hellraiser_xes wrote:

Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war.

showmaster wrote:

hellraiser_xes wrote:

Dude, don't snap. I'm sorry I didn't make things very clear. I was referring to the Americans actually. That's what I meant by

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Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war.

And I did mention bout Vietnam and Korea, so that pretty much refers to the US. I just read the article and posted without going through the thread at all so I was pretty unaware there was a discussion goin on about the Croation war, or any other war.

Sorry dude, take it easy.

Author:	noodles [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:37 am ]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/us/13 ... ref=slogin

Author:	Afro Lint [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:37 am ]
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Pussies.

Author:	showmaster [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:17 pm ]
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Thing like this are normal in Croatia. There was war in Croatia 16 years ago, so country is full of people with PTSP (even I snatch when I hear a gunshot or firecracker explosion, I was little then)

Author:	Mintrude [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:29 pm ]
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Over here if you gunned down a gang member, you'd probably be hailed as a hero by the gutter press. Any UK posters remember the Tony Martin case? (not him out of Black Sabbath) He shot two burglars, killing one, while they were running away. The tabloids made him into some sort of hero for the common man, when he was really an angry farmer with a rifle. EDIT: Turns out the guy had some pretty severe mental issues, and is apparently a BNP supporter, which lowers my opinion on him quite a bit more. (The BNP stuff, not the mental problems)

Author:	Goat [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:54 pm ]
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Mintrude wrote: Over here if you gunned down a gang member, you'd probably be hailed as a hero by the gutter press. Any UK posters remember the Tony Martin case? (not him out of Black Sabbath) He shot two burglars, killing one, while they were running away. The tabloids made him into some sort of hero for the common man, when he was really an angry farmer with a rifle. EDIT: Turns out the guy had some pretty severe mental issues, and is apparently a BNP supporter, which lowers my opinion on him quite a bit more. (The BNP stuff, not the mental problems) Tony Martin is? I suppose it's just to be expected. The BNP is like the KKK and NRA in one...

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Author:	Mintrude [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:01 pm ]
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Zad wrote: Mintrude wrote: Over here if you gunned down a gang member, you'd probably be hailed as a hero by the gutter press. Any UK posters remember the Tony Martin case? (not him out of Black Sabbath) He shot two burglars, killing one, while they were running away. The tabloids made him into some sort of hero for the common man, when he was really an angry farmer with a rifle. EDIT: Turns out the guy had some pretty severe mental issues, and is apparently a BNP supporter, which lowers my opinion on him quite a bit more. (The BNP stuff, not the mental problems) Tony Martin is? I suppose it's just to be expected. The BNP is like the KKK and NRA in one... Yes, apparently. He always came off as something of a twat in interviews, so it doesn't surprise me.

Author:	hellraiser_xes [ Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:26 pm ]
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I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst.

Author:	showmaster [ Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm ]
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hellraiser_xes wrote: I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst. Bullshit! BULLSHIT!!!!!! During the war in Croatia many men went in battle TO FIGHT IN THEIR OWN WAR... FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM! They killed alot of fucking serbians in battle and many still have PTSP and still every now and then snap! You have no idea how hard is to live with father who haves PTSP. You don't know how hard it is when your father often remembers of war trauma during his sleep and when he awakes he think that there is still war! SO DON'T YOU BULLSHIT ME YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT!

Author:	Thomas [ Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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easy man, he said heard and read.

Author:	EdgeOfForever [ Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:15 pm ]
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showmaster wrote: hellraiser_xes wrote: I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst. Bullshit! BULLSHIT!!!!!! During the war in Croatia many men went in battle TO FIGHT IN THEIR OWN WAR... FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM! They killed alot of fucking serbians in battle and many still have PTSP and still every now and then snap! You have no idea how hard is to live with father who haves PTSP. You don't know how hard it is when your father often remembers of war trauma during his sleep and when he awakes he think that there is still war! SO DON'T YOU BULLSHIT ME YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT! hahahahaha

Author:	hellraiser_xes [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:33 am ]
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showmaster wrote: hellraiser_xes wrote: I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst. Bullshit! BULLSHIT!!!!!! During the war in Croatia many men went in battle TO FIGHT IN THEIR OWN WAR... FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM! They killed alot of fucking serbians in battle and many still have PTSP and still every now and then snap! You have no idea how hard is to live with father who haves PTSP. You don't know how hard it is when your father often remembers of war trauma during his sleep and when he awakes he think that there is still war! SO DON'T YOU BULLSHIT ME YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT! Dude, don't snap. I'm sorry I didn't make things very clear. I was referring to the Americans actually. That's what I meant by Quote: Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. And I did mention bout Vietnam and Korea, so that pretty much refers to the US. I just read the article and posted without going through the thread at all so I was pretty unaware there was a discussion goin on about the Croation war, or any other war. Sorry dude, take it easy.

Author:	showmaster [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:44 am ]
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hellraiser_xes wrote: showmaster wrote: hellraiser_xes wrote: I've heard and read about similar cases involving postwar veterans. It's quite a sad state that they ended up in. Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. If they don't kill anyone there, they'd end up blasting someone back home. I heard the Vietnam and Korea veterans were far worst. Bullshit! BULLSHIT!!!!!! During the war in Croatia many men went in battle TO FIGHT IN THEIR OWN WAR... FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM! They killed alot of fucking serbians in battle and many still have PTSP and still every now and then snap! You have no idea how hard is to live with father who haves PTSP. You don't know how hard it is when your father often remembers of war trauma during his sleep and when he awakes he think that there is still war! SO DON'T YOU BULLSHIT ME YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT! Dude, don't snap. I'm sorry I didn't make things very clear. I was referring to the Americans actually. That's what I meant by Quote: Another reason why you shouldn't send your troops out to battle for someone else's war. And I did mention bout Vietnam and Korea, so that pretty much refers to the US. I just read the article and posted without going through the thread at all so I was pretty unaware there was a discussion goin on about the Croation war, or any other war. Sorry dude, take it easy. ok sry actually it's my fault, I snap easily when someone talks about war...

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