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 Post subject: 2009 College Rankings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:13 pm 
Are up. My fellow Americans, see how your colleges rank:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college


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6 ivy league schools in the top 10, hot damn.

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So these scores are basically worthless. For upper classmen, a college's value is based on their major's department's strength. The scores are just an excuse for universities to hike up their prices even more than they normally would.


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Is the cost indicated per year ??
If so...Damn no wonder University isn't accesible to all in the states.


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a ranking of the worst schools :lol::
http://radaronline.com/from-the-magazin ... t_1_01.php

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Haha, that's awesome. And woo! I'm at number...71. Cool, I guess?


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Is the cost indicated per year ??
If so...Damn no wonder University isn't accesible to all in the states.


Yeah, that's two semesters worth of tuition and fees. Now you see why I accumulated $40k of student loan debt from my time in college, and mine was only $5k per year for tuition and fees. The rest is books, living expenses, etc. I shudder to think of the tally a Harvard student racks up.


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Adam wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Is the cost indicated per year ??
If so...Damn no wonder University isn't accesible to all in the states.


Yeah, that's two semesters worth of tuition and fees. Now you see why I accumulated $40k of student loan debt from my time in college, and mine was only $5k per year for tuition and fees. The rest is books, living expenses, etc. I shudder to think of the tally a Harvard student racks up.


Christ! I have to pay around 1500€ for one year of college, and that includes books and shit. Why do they need to go for your internal organs when you just want to be educated?


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but public universities offer much lower tuition, especially to students from/residing in (i forget) the same state, and some don't even distinguish betweent the two. and i'm not sure about this, but either out of merit or necessity, don't most students get some sort of financial aid?

that said i still think it's really really expensive. you'd think that with the moster endowments some universities boast tuition fees would be a bit lower :wacko:

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but public universities offer much lower tuition, especially to students from/residing in (i forget) the same state, and some don't even distinguish betweent the two. and i'm not sure about this, but either out of merit or necessity, don't most students get some sort of financial aid?

that said i still think it's really really expensive. you'd think that with the moster endowments some universities boast tuition fees would be a bit lower :wacko:


You'd think so, but I went to a public university (Purdue), and while the tuition and fees were much lower for me since I live in Indiana, the books, living expenses, etc are what kills you. Some people get jobs, but me personally, I couldn't work more than 20 hours a week and still get all my class work done. This leaves about $4000 per semester, and they were pretty stingy with the financial aid. They'd rather just offer you federal loans instead. College in the US is ridiculously overpriced almost anywhere you go. My student loan debt situation is about the average from what I can tell.


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4000 per semester for tuition, living expenses, or both? if it's just tuition or both, then sorry but it's a good deal. you pay more than that in the UK. although maybe when you went to college $4000 was worth more than it is today.

talk about federal loans, i agree. my cousin is studying in England and took out a loan, he only pays interest every year and only has to start paying back the loan after he starts making a certain amount of money per year. he still has living expenses, which he works to pay, but all in all i'd say it works. mind you, in the UK international students are those form outside the European Union, not just outside the UK. i imagine everyone who's not american or resident is considered international in the US university system, correct me if i'm wrong.

public universities in Portugal don't charge more than €900 and something per academic year, and you can still have that reduced under certain circumstances. private unis charge around 300-400 euros per month. fortunately, the best universities in almost every field are public, with only a handful of privates able to truly compete in quality.
in comparison, though, the minumum wage is 426€ per month and the average wage in 2005 (before taxes) was 620€.

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Adam wrote:
Azrael wrote:
but public universities offer much lower tuition, especially to students from/residing in (i forget) the same state, and some don't even distinguish betweent the two. and i'm not sure about this, but either out of merit or necessity, don't most students get some sort of financial aid?

that said i still think it's really really expensive. you'd think that with the moster endowments some universities boast tuition fees would be a bit lower :wacko:


You'd think so, but I went to a public university (Purdue), and while the tuition and fees were much lower for me since I live in Indiana, the books, living expenses, etc are what kills you. Some people get jobs, but me personally, I couldn't work more than 20 hours a week and still get all my class work done. This leaves about $4000 per semester, and they were pretty stingy with the financial aid. They'd rather just offer you federal loans instead. College in the US is ridiculously overpriced almost anywhere you go. My student loan debt situation is about the average from what I can tell.


My fees for university here in Quebec, Canada where about 1500 $ CAN per semester and that included books. often though it would cost 200$ CAN less since books where sometimes optional or I got off on buying used ones. I was also lucky enough to be in a COOP program where I had a paid stage/internship after each 1 or 2 semesters. A 4 month internship would rake me in about 6000$ to 7000$ CAN which was more than plenty for two semesters of schooling. So I was lucky enough to get zero debt and 100% of my time dedicated to studying(...and drinking lol).

The way you guys speak you all have living expenses, is it by obligation or by choice ? What I mean is, can't you guys keep on living at your parents and avoid those costs ? Any city with a reasonable population has a university here in Quebec, Canada, giving most students the oppertunity of keeping on living at their parents home. Is this just not possible in the States ?


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I pay 5096 AUD a year (4350 USD, 2970 EUR). This does not include textbooks and it all goes on an interest-free government loan. It used to be free entirely before my time! My problem is, if I want to overload my program I have to pay 2000 or so per subject upfront.

Books are a bit of an expense, but in Philosophy there are usually none beyond the introductory course levels (there are internally printed collections of articles which cost around 22 AUD, and I did have to buy one textbook once for 47 AUD), and in Japanese the initial load you buy is good for the entire course (I spent 170 AUD in total). Lecturers usually try not to set textbooks unless we really need them and can't get stuff online or from the library, and most courses do not require more than one.

By contrast, I earn 13.82 an hour before tax. I work 29.5 hours a week and go to university in the afternoon. My pay varies between 350 AUD a week and 370 AUD a week (consider taxes). Rent will be 80 AUD, I live with my parents now. A substantial chunk goes into my savings for a year off work while I do my honours.

All in all, not so bad! Considering that I am studying at a university that's been ranked 33rd in the world and 4th in the country, I'm alright.


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I pay $9,000 for a three quarter (not including summer) academic year (Univ. of Cincinnati). I have one subsidized loan for $1000 but the rest is interest ridden and I have to pay it back 6 months after I graduate.

Textbooks at my community college for the past two years were usually around $300 a quarter and I would save some money buying online. This year it will cost me at least $400 and that is buying them online. I have no clue how much it would cost paying the publisher's price.

I'm moving back in with my mom this year because I'm going to be spending so much money for school. I'll have to pay for food and some bills (car insurance, cell, high speed internet) but it'll be better than my current apt.

In two years, I will be going to graduate school which could range from $11,000 (UCONN or Stony Brook NYU) or Boston College ($45,000). In addition to that, I'll have to pay for housing and food which will probably equal around $15,000.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:16 am 
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Haha, that's awesome. And woo! I'm at number...71. Cool, I guess?


MSU, eh? Sweet. I'm thinking of possibly going there for Grad School (provided they have the kind of CS program I'm looking for). We might even know some of the same people, since I have a lot of friends who either go or went to Michy State.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:20 am 
Adam wrote:
Azrael wrote:
but public universities offer much lower tuition, especially to students from/residing in (i forget) the same state, and some don't even distinguish betweent the two. and i'm not sure about this, but either out of merit or necessity, don't most students get some sort of financial aid?

that said i still think it's really really expensive. you'd think that with the moster endowments some universities boast tuition fees would be a bit lower :wacko:


You'd think so, but I went to a public university (Purdue), and while the tuition and fees were much lower for me since I live in Indiana, the books, living expenses, etc are what kills you. Some people get jobs, but me personally, I couldn't work more than 20 hours a week and still get all my class work done. This leaves about $4000 per semester, and they were pretty stingy with the financial aid. They'd rather just offer you federal loans instead. College in the US is ridiculously overpriced almost anywhere you go. My student loan debt situation is about the average from what I can tell.


College, in general, is gradually becoming more expensive now. Which is especially concerning because more people are going to college, so you'd think they'd try to make it more financially accessible. My current school (Wayne State University) is becoming notorious for racking up tuition costs.

It's true that public universities are typically less expensive than private universities. But even they can become quite pricey (U of M - Ann Arbor being among the priciest in the country).


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4000 per semester for tuition, living expenses, or both? if it's just tuition or both, then sorry but it's a good deal. you pay more than that in the UK. although maybe when you went to college $4000 was worth more than it is today.


:lol: :lol:

Fuck dude, I'm not that old, this was only about 5 years ago! The $4000 is for living expenses (apartment rent, dorm fees, social life, etc). If that's a good deal, I'm Steven Fucking Hawking. I worked as much as I possibly could waiting tables, and I still had to come up with that much money per semester, which usually ended up coming from student loans. That shit adds up quick. I can only imagine if I went to school out of state.

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The way you guys speak you all have living expenses, is it by obligation or by choice ? What I mean is, can't you guys keep on living at your parents and avoid those costs ? Any city with a reasonable population has a university here in Quebec, Canada, giving most students the oppertunity of keeping on living at their parents home. Is this just not possible in the States ?


Of course it's possible to live with your parents. My school was 4 hours away from my parent's house, so I didn't have a choice. Some people who go to school in the same town as where their parents live choose to live on their own, so they can have more freedom or whatever. If I had gone to school in my hometown, I would've lived with my parents for sure. I would've saved about $30000 over the course of my college career. Too bad the colleges in my hometown suck.


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Adam wrote:
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4000 per semester for tuition, living expenses, or both? if it's just tuition or both, then sorry but it's a good deal. you pay more than that in the UK. although maybe when you went to college $4000 was worth more than it is today.


:lol: :lol:

Fuck dude, I'm not that old, this was only about 5 years ago! The $4000 is for living expenses (apartment rent, dorm fees, social life, etc). If that's a good deal, I'm Steven Fucking Hawking. I worked as much as I possibly could waiting tables, and I still had to come up with that much money per semester, which usually ended up coming from student loans. That shit adds up quick. I can only imagine if I went to school out of state.


:lol: no offense. i thought you were older because of have kids and all that. yeah, it's a lot of money. but like i said, if it was for tuition it would have been cheap.

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Azrael wrote:
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4000 per semester for tuition, living expenses, or both? if it's just tuition or both, then sorry but it's a good deal. you pay more than that in the UK. although maybe when you went to college $4000 was worth more than it is today.


:lol: :lol:

Fuck dude, I'm not that old, this was only about 5 years ago! The $4000 is for living expenses (apartment rent, dorm fees, social life, etc). If that's a good deal, I'm Steven Fucking Hawking. I worked as much as I possibly could waiting tables, and I still had to come up with that much money per semester, which usually ended up coming from student loans. That shit adds up quick. I can only imagine if I went to school out of state.


:lol: no offense. i thought you were older because of have kids and all that. yeah, it's a lot of money. but like i said, if it was for tuition it would have been cheap.


Haha, none taken. My tuition was cheap in comparison to what out-of-state students have to pay, but college is just expensive unless you live with your parents and go to school in your hometown.


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