http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -told.html
Please tell me this is a joke.
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| Author: | cry of the banshee [ Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:39 pm ] |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -told.html Please tell me this is a joke. |
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| Author: | MetalStorm [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:10 am ] |
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Someone should tell those Old Masters to STFU
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| Author: | Caligula_K [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:34 am ] |
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No matter how hard I try, I can't find this funny. I hate humanity sometimes. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:49 am ] |
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Meh. Silly, yes, but you can see their thinking. |
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:05 am ] |
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The PC police strike again... |
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| Author: | Caligula_K [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:13 am ] |
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Zad wrote: Meh. Silly, yes, but you can see their thinking.
You can really see the thinking behind banning the words "elderly", "Old Masters", "brainstorm" and "immigrant?" I mean, I can too: Its all this bullshit about trying to not use terms that might possibly in some way offend some idiot while at the same time destroying any possibility for honesty and straightforwardness in language (not to mention historical accuracy... Sorry, England, but its a fact that about 99% of artists in the renaissance were men). Why can't an old person admit that he is old, or an immigrant say that he's an... immigrant? Political correctness is all well and good when you're dealing with actually racist and sexist terms that exist only to be racist and sexist, but how do any of these terms qualify? And why is the west such a victim culture? |
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| Author: | EdgeOfForever [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:20 am ] |
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Yeah, and where does it end? If a word like 'brainstorm' can be banned, then almost anything could be banned. I really can't see what they're thinking, it's like they're deliberately trying to stir shit up. |
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| Author: | Legacy Of The Night [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:23 am ] |
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I actually lol'd at the "brainstorm" part. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:28 am ] |
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Brahm_K wrote: Zad wrote: Meh. Silly, yes, but you can see their thinking. You can really see the thinking behind banning the words "elderly", "Old Masters", "brainstorm" and "immigrant?" I mean, I can too: Its all this bullshit about trying to not use terms that might possibly in some way offend some idiot while at the same time destroying any possibility for honesty and straightforwardness in language (not to mention historical accuracy... Sorry, England, but its a fact that about 99% of artists in the renaissance were men). Why can't an old person admit that he is old, or an immigrant say that he's an... immigrant? Political correctness is all well and good when you're dealing with actually racist and sexist terms that exist only to be racist and sexist, but how do any of these terms qualify? And why is the west such a victim culture? Yes, they're clearly scared stiff of losing a lawsuit over it, which could well happen. This is about covering themselves, proving that they tried to weed out the 'offensive' language. I didn't say I agreed with it; heck, read The Human Stain by Philip Roth, great book that touches the subject. |
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| Author: | noodles [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:25 am ] |
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Legacy Of The Night wrote: I actually lol'd at the "brainstorm" part.
me too |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:30 am ] |
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This is where political correctness crosses the line. Brahm is dead on. the ambiguity in these phrases are absurd. These words are inoffensive and maybe immigrants should get over the fact that they immigrated,old people need to realize their old, and etc. |
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| Author: | MetalStorm [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:55 am ] |
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So does that mean that the band Brainstorm is banned from the UK 
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| Author: | Goat [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:22 am ] |
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traptunderice wrote: This is where political correctness crosses the line. Brahm is dead on. the ambiguity in these phrases are absurd. These words are inoffensive and maybe immigrants should get over the fact that they immigrated,old people need to realize their old, and etc.
What have you got against immigrants?  People like you make me sick.
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| Author: | Azrael [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:52 am ] |
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completely ridiculous. hope this shit doesn't spread to the rest of the world. you'd think the academics would read the list, laugh, and keep on insulting people with terms like "old masters" and "brainstorm". |
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| Author: | Thomas [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:00 pm ] |
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Are you kidding me? Is this in the UK? If this was in the US it wouldn't surprise me at all. |
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| Author: | Ness [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:40 pm ] |
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metal_xxx wrote: Are you kidding me? Is this in the UK? If this was in the US it wouldn't surprise me at all.
It's been here... just not as bad. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:42 pm ] |
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metal_xxx wrote: Are you kidding me? Is this in the UK? If this was in the US it wouldn't surprise me at all.
We're very namby-pamby here, especially in local government. Someone got compensation after being fired from her council job for refusing to marry gay couples. Compensation, I tell you! |
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| Author: | Caligula_K [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:48 pm ] |
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MetalStorm wrote: So does that mean that the band Brainstorm is banned from the UK
They are banned from the world for their insensitivity to epilepsy! Demons and Wizards should also be banned because it implies that there are no female wizards, a.k.a. witches. |
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| Author: | Astaroth [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:04 pm ] |
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fucking retarded, that's what it is. I think all this precaution is bullshit and discriminating because it tells us to treat everybody as helpless weaklings - and nobody wants to be treated like that. I don't believe in censorship at all, that's what i like about my country, you can say whatever you want. I think it's totally bullshit when series such as south park gets censored with *beeps, nobody has died yet bad language - not to forget how nudity for some reason makes alot of people angry while violence is fully accepted. |
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| Author: | rio [ Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:28 pm ] |
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No no no. The telegraph is notoriously full of shit and you have all been suckered in by another made-up story designed to stir up paranoia about a sinister imaginary group called the "pc police", who apparently inhabit academia and local government, persecuting good honest folks who call a spade a spade. I mean, haha, "outlawed"? Yeah sure, those phrases are now against the law if you are in a university in the UK. Of course they are, daily telegraph. No bullshit there at all... This deserves a hearty LOL. Notice that there's absolutely no evidence that these words are banned either. Anyone cited that was actually stopped from using the term "Developing country"? Anyone who has felt pressured to stop describing things as "seminal"? Amazingly enough, no, just some list some schmo wrote that some equally shmo-ey journalist found and thought he could make a story out of. By the way, I knew the only name cited in there- Frank Furedi- rang a bell... He was the founder of the Revolutionary Communist Party, and so it's quite funny seeing him quoted in something as right-wing as the Daily Telegraph. You guys should remember that newspapers are products that are targeted very specifically at a market. The market the DT is aiming for is not the type of person that would question things they read, especially if it lets them have a good 2 minute hate on the pc brigade. |
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