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Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:49 am ]
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Today is St Patrick's Day and a whole heap of Australians will be getting drunk for it. Most will not have a drop of Irish blood in them. None will attend Mass or observe any religious rituals.

It makes me think how religious holidays have become completely corrupted.

I'm not religious in anyway (heck I'm an atheist), but I think it's sad that people often celebrate religious holidays for the wrong reasons.

Most people that I know that celebrate supposedly religious holidays are not religious.

They do not go to Mass and instead usually indulge in overating, getting drunk or consume enough chocolate to be sick during Easter. Oh and there's presents and for most kids, Christmas means presents.

Even on Christmas, many just catch up with family for a quick lunch and then wonder off to get drunk with friends or get drunk at the family lunch.

My inlaws do this as do all of my friends and acquaintances (my own family are all atheists so we don't do Christmas or Easter - we did get gifts for New Year).

The religious people I know don't really indulge in this sort of behaviour and not on the vulgar level that most non-religious people seem to do it (gifts are more modest, it's all about family).


It's a bit disrespectful to people who are actually religious and it makes a mockery of those holidays.
Author:  traptunderice [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:08 am ]
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Religious people participate in this bullshit though, as can be witnessed by the many socially conservative co-eds who will be shitfaced come tomorrow after scrunching their nose up earlier today at the mention of a philosopher not only not believing in a god but arguing that no one really has any reason or need to. :omfg:

So really it just reflects a society that doesn't care about any traditions and would rather be numbed with alcohol or spending money on gifts than actually facing a difficult world as their religion called them to do.
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:17 am ]
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So should only religious people be allowed to celebrate "religious" holidays?
Author:  traptunderice [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:53 am ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
So should only religious people be allowed to celebrate "religious" holidays?
I don't know why the non-religiose would want to celebrate some random guy being born or celebrating him not coming back to life.
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:58 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
So should only religious people be allowed to celebrate "religious" holidays?
I don't know why the non-religiose would want to celebrate some random guy being born or celebrating him not coming back to life.


Exactly.

Why celebrate Christmas or Yom Kippur or Rammadhan if you don't believe in it?
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:59 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
So should only religious people be allowed to celebrate "religious" holidays?
I don't know why the non-religiose would want to celebrate some random guy being born or celebrating him not coming back to life.


Pretty much. I'm just saying, it's silly to say that it's "disrespectful to religous people" for non-religious people to celibrate "religious" holidays anyway. Christmas was adapted from that Pagan holiday anyway; isn't it disrespectful to Pagans for Christians to call Christmas the day their Jesus was born?
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:07 am ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Pretty much. I'm just saying, it's silly to say that it's "disrespectful to religous people" for non-religious people to celibrate "religious" holidays anyway.


Actually it's a bit disrespectful to celebrate solemn occassions through debauched pissup or chocolate consumption fest.


Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Christmas was adapted from that Pagan holiday anyway; isn't it disrespectful to Pagans for Christians to call Christmas the day their Jesus was born?


It was probably more disrespectful to Pagans that their religions were completely prohibited and then annihilated by the Catholics.
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:25 am ]
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dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Pretty much. I'm just saying, it's silly to say that it's "disrespectful to religous people" for non-religious people to celibrate "religious" holidays anyway.


Actually it's a bit disrespectful to celebrate solemn occassions through debauched pissup or chocolate consumption fest.


Don't religious people do that anyway? Besides, even if it is disrepectful, should we stop? or change our ways? What do you propose we do about it?


dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Christmas was adapted from that Pagan holiday anyway; isn't it disrespectful to Pagans for Christians to call Christmas the day their Jesus was born?


It was probably more disrespectful to Pagans that their religions were completely prohibited and then annihilated by the Catholics.


thats_the_joke.jpg
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:06 am ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?



Not the religious folk I know.
Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Besides, even if it is disrepectful, should we stop? or change our ways? What do you propose we do about it?



Mere discussion. It's like when we talk politics or music. We don't do anything about Gaddafhi hammering his own people in Libya, government cutting taxes or In Flames and Soilwork being shit for the last decade or so.

We still discuss it.
Author:  traptunderice [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:10 am ]
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dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:27 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.


Most of the ones I know are middle-upper middle class and educated.
Author:  traptunderice [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:52 am ]
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dead1 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.


Most of the ones I know are middle-upper middle class and educated.
Cool story, bro.
Author:  GeneralDiomedes [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:14 am ]
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Because most modern religious holidays have roots in pagan traditions, thereby coming, I dunno, full circle?

Besides, I'll celebrate whatever the fuck I want, whenever the fuck I want.
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:18 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.


Most of the ones I know are middle-upper middle class and educated.
Cool story, bro.


Not as cool as your boozer Christians who worship Jeebus with a flagon of sherry and 1 kilogram block of chocolate.
Author:  traptunderice [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:38 am ]
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Sherry? Blocks of chocolate? These fuckers drink Nati Light and eat m&m's, wild turkey and reese's cups. There is no cognac and white chocolate truffles where I'm from. You're so bourgy you don't even know what these lower class religious heathens consume.
Author:  North From Here [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:39 am ]
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dead1 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.


Most of the ones I know are middle-upper middle class and educated.
Cool story, bro.


Not as cool as your boozer Christians who worship Jeebus with a flagon of sherry and 1 kilogram block of chocolate.


You really are inane, you know that? What sane person would be complaining about people eating chocolate on Christmas?
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:57 am ]
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A 1 kg block of chocolate sounds awesome.
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:11 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
and reese's cups.


Reese's cups are awesome!
Author:  dead1 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:19 am ]
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emperorblackdoom wrote:
You really are inane, you know that? What sane person would be complaining about people eating chocolate on Christmas?


Actually it's more about eating chocolate on Easter.

What does consuming large amounts of chocolate have to do with crucifying Jesus?

If an alien were to look at it, they would make the following observation:

1. 2,000 years ago they killed some insane guy (i.e. claiming to be son of some diety is clearly insane - try doing it now).

2. The dead guy then apparently comes back, zombie style.

3. To celebrate the slaying and susequent resurrection, people gorge on chocolate which is often shaped like eggs or small mammals (in line with old pagan traditions) but just as often comes as a rectangular block. Chocolate is consumed on supposed dates the guy is killed and comes back to life.

The chocolate has nothing to do with Jesus, being introduced to Western society some 1,500 years after Jesus was apparently resurrected.

Bizarre.
Author:  Karmakosmonaut [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:37 am ]
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traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
dead1 wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Don't religious people do that anyway?

Not the religious folk I know.
They're in the minority then.


Most of the ones I know are middle-upper middle class and educated.
Cool story, bro.

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