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What would you do?
Keep them alive. Life is better than death, however bad a life. 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Set them free. Why force them to suffer? 84%  84%  [ 21 ]
Don't know... 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
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 Post subject: Euthanasia
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:00 pm 
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There's no real right or wrong answer to this as far as I can see. Sure, cases like Terry Schiavo that get hijacked by politicians, fundies and liberals alike lose the essential point - there are thousands of such cases that go underlooked. Are they being murdered or set free? Pull the plug, and possibly kill a loved one (who may yet undergo a "miraculous" recovery) or keep them alive and prolong their suffering? Discuss.

Also, would you want to be put out of your suffering by your family? Obviously, it's not that cut-and-dried, but a general idea would be interesting...

Personally, I veer towards the 'pro' camp. I wouldn't want someone close to me to suffer like that, if there's no hope of a cure, despite my lack of belief in the afterlife. Would I want it done for me? If the pain was bad enough, yes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:07 pm 
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If the person is capable of making a decision then surely it should be entirely up to them. I think it's pretty poor to make someone who's in pain and terminally ill hang on in pain until they die naturally, if they've already said they don't want to live anymore.


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yep, this shit shouldn't even be a big deal. you can get a living will that dictates the maximum amount of time you wish to be hooked to life support etc etc etc.. doctors have that blahblah oath that prevents them from ending a life intentionally but, er, nurses don't..

personally in lizardtailworld there would also be surgical, painless suicide booths.. I guess they'd have a two week waiting list just in case someone signed up out of boredom or insanity but I think everyone has a right to choose whether they continue or not, in any situation.


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Obviously if the person is capable of making that decision (ie not out of mind in pain) then it should be up to them. But a coma? What then?


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living will again


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lizardtail wrote:
yep, this shit shouldn't even be a big deal. you can get a living will that dictates the maximum amount of time you wish to be hooked to life support etc etc etc.. doctors have that blahblah oath that prevents them from ending a life intentionally but, er, nurses don't..

personally in lizardtailworld there would also be surgical, painless suicide booths.. I guess they'd have a two week waiting list just in case someone signed up out of boredom or insanity but I think everyone has a right to choose whether they continue or not, in any situation.

Totally.

There comes a point when life is no longer worth living, and we should let those people go. Not fucking put them on life support just so they can live long enough to pay for chemotherapy. Ugh.


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Zad wrote:
Obviously if the person is capable of making that decision (ie not out of mind in pain) then it should be up to them. But a coma? What then?



I think euthanasia is ok if the person is capable of making the decision. But would I do it if I was a doctor, I dunno.


About coma, I think no. Because even in the worst comas that doctors can see no way out, sometimes a person awakens after years.


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Kathaarian wrote:
Zad wrote:
Obviously if the person is capable of making that decision (ie not out of mind in pain) then it should be up to them. But a coma? What then?



I think euthanasia is ok if the person is capable of making the decision. But would I do it if I was a doctor, I dunno.


About coma, I think no. Because even in the worst comas that doctors can see no way out, sometimes a person awakens after years.


Kathaarian basically summed up my opinion. So, "".


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:35 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:41 pm 
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If a dog had cataracts so bad it was functionally blind, couldn't control its bodily functions by itself, had to be hooked up to machines to oxygenate its blood, and spent every day in varying degrees of misery, it would practically be considered animal cruelty to keep it alive. Why would we keep a human being alive in that state?

As for coma, it depends on the situation. If there were extensive brain damage, yes, I support euthanasia in that case.

I'd certainly want to be put out of my own misery.


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I'm up for it. If I'm suffering a large amount with no hope of recovery, I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life like that. But I would like to die in a cool way; fuck these lethal injections, throw me off a cliff or feed me to sharks or something.


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Free euthanasia for all who need it.


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I'm the first to vote against it? To me, allowing that it would be crossing a line that eventually would lead to a decrease in the moral of all society. Euthanasia seems perfectly fine when looking at each individual case, it's just the big picture that scares me too much.


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They wanted to pull the plug on my step father after an accident where his own pick-up truck rolled over him after he fell out the window. Doctors said, "Sorry Ma'am, he'll be a veggie from now on. Can we plz have his organz tho?" His Ex said, "No, fagz." Then, in a miracle, he recovered from a coma that was supposed to be 4eva. He went on to re-marry, my mother being the victim, and beat and ridiculed me and my brother throughout our entire teen lives!

So, I think it's obvious where I stand. :P


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VinnieVincentInvaded wrote:
I'm the first to vote against it? To me, allowing that it would be crossing a line that eventually would lead to a decrease in the moral of all society. Euthanasia seems perfectly fine when looking at each individual case, it's just the big picture that scares me too much.


I'm pro Eutanasia for a right reason. If anyone can comit suicide in a normal and knowing what is doing, the people who can't commit it themselves (and with all their mental faculties) should have the same right, and supporting them is the unbearable pain, full pralisation or degenerative deseases... In these terms, I don't see how can we decrease the moral of the society...


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The slippery slope argument is just something that conservatives throw around to oppose any sort of change that anyone suggests or attempts to bring about. Unfortunately people buy into this, and start thinking that somehow euthanising those who want and need it will be the straw that broke the "moral code" of the country (which, in case you didn't know, is bullshit and always has been), as if legalizing euthanasia in anyway would lead suddenly to doctors murdering perfectly healthy young men when they go in for a routine checkup.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:30 am 
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The slippery slope argument is just something that conservatives throw around to oppose any sort of change that anyone suggests or attempts to bring about. Unfortunately people buy into this, and start thinking that somehow euthanising those who want and need it will be the straw that broke the "moral code" of the country (which, in case you didn't know, is bullshit and always has been), as if legalizing euthanasia in anyway would lead suddenly to doctors murdering perfectly healthy young men when they go in for a routine checkup.


Well, not long after our parliament voted to change the traditional definition of marriage, the senate funds a study to determine whether polygamy should be legalized.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:51 am 
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If i was terminally ill and suffering, i'd want to be killed.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:26 pm 
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Definitely pro. Everybody should have the right to decide what they want to do with their own life. That includes ending it. If the person is in a coma I'd say go for it as well... I don't see why you would keep the bodily functions alive if the 'person' as such is dead...


@ Vinnie: :lol: Please :roll:


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