Team America sucked teh balls.
Much like 25th Hour.
Oh, life is a treasure, well thankns very much for that, Spike. :roll: The monlogue was pretty cool though.
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:33 pm ] |
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Oliver Stone's latest, starring Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal, about two policemen trapped in the towers. Thoughts? This must be his most mainline film yet, everyone'll watch this. Has he sold out? Should they make films about disasters? |
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| Author: | lizardtail [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:35 pm ] |
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they should have made this five years ago while the original set was available |
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| Author: | rio [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:43 pm ] |
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Zad wrote: Oliver Stone's latest, starring Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal, about two policemen trapped in the towers.
Thoughts? This must be his most mainline film yet, everyone'll watch this. Has he sold out? Should they make films about disasters? Whyever not? Actually I'm surprised it took this long to make this one... |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
rio wrote: Zad wrote: Oliver Stone's latest, starring Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal, about two policemen trapped in the towers. Thoughts? This must be his most mainline film yet, everyone'll watch this. Has he sold out? Should they make films about disasters? Whyever not? Actually I'm surprised it took this long to make this one... So are we to see a Spielberg Tsunami film now, with Tom Cruise as an ex-alcoholic trying to find his children after the event? Really, this just proves to me how far the movie industry's prepared to go to make a wad. |
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| Author: | Radical Cut [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
Zad wrote: rio wrote: Zad wrote: Oliver Stone's latest, starring Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal, about two policemen trapped in the towers. Thoughts? This must be his most mainline film yet, everyone'll watch this. Has he sold out? Should they make films about disasters? Whyever not? Actually I'm surprised it took this long to make this one... So are we to see a Spielberg Tsunami film now, with Tom Cruise as an ex-alcoholic trying to find his children after the event? Really, this just proves to me how far the movie industry's prepared to go to make a wad. Yeah, but think of all the money and awards he's bound to win! It's easier than gay cowboys! |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
Radical Cut wrote: Yeah, but think of all the money and awards he's bound to win!
It's easier than gay cowboys! Exactly. If we get a London Bombing film over here, starring Hugh Fucking Grant and Emma Thompson, I swear I'll go and throw potatoes at the premier. Raw ones. Edit: and can you get rid/ shrink Varg down a little? It was funny at first, now it's just like, annoying. |
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| Author: | Carnifex Umbris [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:59 pm ] |
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Oh, dear. Too soon, I think. There will be massive protests about this. |
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| Author: | rio [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
Zad wrote: rio wrote: Zad wrote: Oliver Stone's latest, starring Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal, about two policemen trapped in the towers. Thoughts? This must be his most mainline film yet, everyone'll watch this. Has he sold out? Should they make films about disasters? Whyever not? Actually I'm surprised it took this long to make this one... So are we to see a Spielberg Tsunami film now, with Tom Cruise as an ex-alcoholic trying to find his children after the event? Really, this just proves to me how far the movie industry's prepared to go to make a wad. We have a much-admired Spielberg film about the holocaust already, and Tom Cruise has been in a war film. Why shouldn't a film about terrorism be ultimately as successfull? Of course, if it's transmogrified into a family orientated action film a la Mission Impossible, as you suggested it may, then it would be a travety. But I hope Stone is intelligent enough to treat the subject matter in an appropriate way. I also hate people that use any excuse to grub after money, but what worries me more is that this will turn into a big flag-waving excercise. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
rio wrote: We have a much-admired Spielberg film about the holocaust already, and Tom Cruise has been in a war film. Why shouldn't a film about terrorism be ultimately as successfull?
Of course, if it's transmogrified into a family orientated action film a la Mission Impossible, as you suggested it may, then it would be a travety. But I hope Stone is intelligent enough to treat the subject matter in an appropriate way. I also hate people that use any excuse to grub after money, but what worries me more is that this will turn into a big flag-waving excercise. As you said, this will probably be flag-waving bullshit. And if Stone can stop shovelling cocaine up his nostrils for a second, we might get something worthy, but still... Seen 25th Hour, by Spike Jonze? Good film, the use of "Ground Zero" was almost chilling. Ultilmately, they're running out of material to make films from. Can we expect a Mining film - "yes, they're alive, praise Jesus!" "lol, not really!"? Maybe the next project for those fuckheads that made Team America...? |
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| Author: | lizardtail [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:06 pm ] |
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I kinda feel sorry for the people who pay money to be exposed to all this emotional coercion. almost. no I take it back |
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| Author: | rio [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:09 pm ] |
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Carnifex Umbris wrote: Oh, dear. Too soon, I think. There will be massive protests about this.
I may be proved wrong, but I don't think they will be that large. I think most Americans will take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach to the project. They'll recognise that historically cinema has been one of the most effective ways for US society to confront traumatic events in its past. If done well it could almost be like mass group therapy. |
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| Author: | Carnifex Umbris [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:10 pm ] |
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rio wrote: Carnifex Umbris wrote: Oh, dear. Too soon, I think. There will be massive protests about this. I may be proved wrong, but I don't think they will be that large. I think most Americans will take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach to the project. They'll recognise that historically cinema has been one of the most effective ways for US society to confront traumatic events in its past. If done well it could almost be like mass group therapy. Americans (and people in general) are also, at base, irrational creatures. There was some talk of making Peter Jackson change the name of "The Two Towers" because it would make people think of the World Trade Center. Granted, LotR came out much closer to the date of the attacks, but still. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:12 pm ] |
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That film about the Alamo (sp?) with Billy Bob Thornton crashed rather pleasingly. I predict this one will be huge, however. And no-one'll protest it, I can't see Stone making it a black comedy. |
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| Author: | rio [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
Zad wrote: As you said, this will probably be flag-waving bullshit. And if Stone can stop shovelling cocaine up his nostrils for a second, we might get something worthy, but still...
Seen 25th Hour, by Spike Jonze? Good film, the use of "Ground Zero" was almost chilling. Ultilmately, they're running out of material to make films from. Can we expect a Mining film - "yes, they're alive, praise Jesus!" "lol, not really!"? Maybe the next project for those fuckheads that made Team America...? Indeed, the potential for this being worthwhile is entirely dependent on Stone being able to do "worthy". If not, then it's bad news all round. I haven't seen 25th Hour, but what was up with Team America? |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
rio wrote: Zad wrote: As you said, this will probably be flag-waving bullshit. And if Stone can stop shovelling cocaine up his nostrils for a second, we might get something worthy, but still... Seen 25th Hour, by Spike Jonze? Good film, the use of "Ground Zero" was almost chilling. Ultilmately, they're running out of material to make films from. Can we expect a Mining film - "yes, they're alive, praise Jesus!" "lol, not really!"? Maybe the next project for those fuckheads that made Team America...? Indeed, the potential for this being worthwhile is entirely dependent on Stone being able to do "worthy". If not, then it's bad news all round. I haven't seen 25th Hour, but what was up with Team America? Haven't we done this? Inability to deal with a serious subject except by taking the piss. Which would be alright, if not for the confused anti-liberal-oh-no-not-really stuff. And puppets having sex never did anything for me... |
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| Author: | Radagast [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:18 pm ] |
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Team America sucked teh balls. Much like 25th Hour. Oh, life is a treasure, well thankns very much for that, Spike. :roll: The monlogue was pretty cool though.
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:21 pm ] |
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Radagast wrote: Team America sucked teh balls.
Much like 25th Hour. Oh, life is a treasure, well thankns very much for that, Spike. :roll: The monlogue was pretty cool though.Both Norton's and-the-guy-playing-his-dad-whose-name-I-can't-remember. Not his best film, agreed. |
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| Author: | rio [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
Zad wrote: rio wrote: Zad wrote: As you said, this will probably be flag-waving bullshit. And if Stone can stop shovelling cocaine up his nostrils for a second, we might get something worthy, but still... Seen 25th Hour, by Spike Jonze? Good film, the use of "Ground Zero" was almost chilling. Ultilmately, they're running out of material to make films from. Can we expect a Mining film - "yes, they're alive, praise Jesus!" "lol, not really!"? Maybe the next project for those fuckheads that made Team America...? Indeed, the potential for this being worthwhile is entirely dependent on Stone being able to do "worthy". If not, then it's bad news all round. I haven't seen 25th Hour, but what was up with Team America? Haven't we done this? Inability to deal with a serious subject except by taking the piss. Which would be alright, if not for the confused anti-liberal-oh-no-not-really stuff. And puppets having sex never did anything for me... Hmm can't remember... ah well let's leave it then. (Although I think T.A. was a only comedy because it was written by comedians, not because of emotional cowardice. Quite the opposite in fact) |
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| Author: | NewFriendAncientEnemy [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:26 pm ] |
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Yeah, that dialouge was legendary, wasn't it? What did it clock in at again? |
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| Author: | Goat [ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "World Trade Center" |
rio wrote: Zad wrote: rio wrote: Zad wrote: As you said, this will probably be flag-waving bullshit. And if Stone can stop shovelling cocaine up his nostrils for a second, we might get something worthy, but still... Seen 25th Hour, by Spike Jonze? Good film, the use of "Ground Zero" was almost chilling. Ultilmately, they're running out of material to make films from. Can we expect a Mining film - "yes, they're alive, praise Jesus!" "lol, not really!"? Maybe the next project for those fuckheads that made Team America...? Indeed, the potential for this being worthwhile is entirely dependent on Stone being able to do "worthy". If not, then it's bad news all round. I haven't seen 25th Hour, but what was up with Team America? Haven't we done this? Inability to deal with a serious subject except by taking the piss. Which would be alright, if not for the confused anti-liberal-oh-no-not-really stuff. And puppets having sex never did anything for me... Hmm can't remember... ah well let's leave it then. [size=(Although I think T.A. was a only comedy because it was written by comedians, not because of emotional cowardice. Quite the opposite in fact)[/size] I never said emotional cowardice. I just think a little less oh-aren't-we-all-anarchic-and-ruthless-ness would have been better. I mean, what was that AIDS show at the start about? A pisstake of Rent? And it wasn't particulary funny, anyway. |
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