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Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular.

Eh, that's like saying "oh hey no point in buying an album once its in print, I mean the band isn't very popular so I doubt their will be another run anyways".

The only difference between buying in-store and ordering online is paying someone for shelf space vs paying someone to deliver it to you.


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Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):

Amen - Amen (w/Bonus Tracks)
Apollyon Sun - Sub
Billy Talent - 666 Live (CD/DVD Digipack)
Caliban - Vent (no back insert)
Colepitz – Colepitz
Crisis - Deathshead Extermination
El Dopa - Hindu Freak Love
Galactic Cowboys - The Horse That Bud Bought
Immortal Souls - Ice Upon The Night (no back insert)
Intense - Second Sight (no back insert)
Maraya – Counterculter (nothing like the Wicked Maraya album)
Mind Over Four - The Goddess
Monumentum - Musaeum Hermeticum (Rare)
Mower - Not For You
Northside Kings – Organizing Our Neighborhood (like Pro-Pain, singer for this band knocked out Danzig)
Raging Speedhorn – The Gush (EP)
Sinamore - A New Day (no back insert)
Skindred - Babylon (promo stamped)
Space Needle - The Moray Eels Eat The Space Needle
The Autumn Offering - Revelations Of The Unsung
The Everdawn - Poems: Burn The Past
The Great Deceiver – Jet Black Art (EP)
The Red Death - External Frames Of Reference
The Vacation - Band From World War Zero
Treponam Pal - Excess & Overdrive
Treponam Pal - Higher
Tribe After Tribe – Love Under Will


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Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):


Mate, you interested in promos or not? If so, there's a couple on there I'd go for, and a few more than sound interesting. As long as it's not ALL hardcore...


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no I'm not 11, the reason i never buy cd's is because it's too expensive (20€ per cd ) usually i download or get piracy cd's and yes I am Christian(catholic) and my father is politician so he thinks I'm ruining his reputation with my appearance (especially after I got arrested ).


1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.

2. You're stealing music and doing nothing to suport the artists who make the music, that's fucked up.

3. I am not innocent, I download a lot of albums, but also have bought over 800 albums in about 5 years and contribute as much money as possible to supporting deserving musicians. My philosophy as of late is download and listen, delete anything mediocre downloaded and buy the albums if there is enough material to support. (No I won't buy a CD because I enjoy 2 songs off an album, I'll definitely buy if I enjoy the majority of it. A lot of bands I automatically buy thier material without hearing it because I have so much faith in thier abilities. I do my best to order CD's from stores rather than buying stuff that is in stock. Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular. Ordering a CD means you directly contribute to the album's sales. Sometimes I offset downloading out of print albums by purchasing multiple copies of an artists in-print material. (For example, I ordered an extra copy of VD's Stream of consciousness to make up for NOT being able to buy the S/T or SMAA.)

Rant over.



Who said I'm good Christian..., you're right it's true and sometimes I feel bad about it (and think about buying cd) ,but than again it's 20€ ;it's a fucking ripoff (In Austria cd costs 5-10€ and that's ok price)


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All you bastards that have money no fucking wonder you can buy cds.


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Like I said, anyone want to trade me something for Xasthur-Subliminal Genocide? That's the only stinker in my collection which isn't there because I like to collect.


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I would be interested in trading some stuff but unfortunately all my cds are far away in England. If this thread is still going in february I would contribute something.


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Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular.

Eh, that's like saying "oh hey no point in buying an album once its in print, I mean the band isn't very popular so I doubt their will be another run anyways".

The only difference between buying in-store and ordering online is paying someone for shelf space vs paying someone to deliver it to you.


I dont buy cd's online, I order cd's trough a retail store in which the guy has to add the cd on to his order from the same distributor, which results in an extra soundscanned copy. Buying online is no different than buying in a store, they already bought the albums, why make the retailer money?

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showmaster wrote:
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showmaster wrote:
no I'm not 11, the reason i never buy cd's is because it's too expensive (20€ per cd ) usually i download or get piracy cd's and yes I am Christian(catholic) and my father is politician so he thinks I'm ruining his reputation with my appearance (especially after I got arrested ).


1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.

2. You're stealing music and doing nothing to suport the artists who make the music, that's fucked up.

3. I am not innocent, I download a lot of albums, but also have bought over 800 albums in about 5 years and contribute as much money as possible to supporting deserving musicians. My philosophy as of late is download and listen, delete anything mediocre downloaded and buy the albums if there is enough material to support. (No I won't buy a CD because I enjoy 2 songs off an album, I'll definitely buy if I enjoy the majority of it. A lot of bands I automatically buy thier material without hearing it because I have so much faith in thier abilities. I do my best to order CD's from stores rather than buying stuff that is in stock. Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular. Ordering a CD means you directly contribute to the album's sales. Sometimes I offset downloading out of print albums by purchasing multiple copies of an artists in-print material. (For example, I ordered an extra copy of VD's Stream of consciousness to make up for NOT being able to buy the S/T or SMAA.)

Rant over.



Who said I'm good Christian..., you're right it's true and sometimes I feel bad about it (and think about buying cd) ,but than again it's 20€ ;it's a fucking ripoff (In Austria cd costs 5-10€ and that's ok price)


Honestly, I am glad you see this. I would think about buying the albumsthat really are worth the money instead. I know there are albums that I would pay 100 US$ for and I've bought several vinyl records worth nothing for about 50 bucks each because it was the only way to have a copy. The vinyl has nothing to do with supporting the artist, but i thought it was worth it just to have.

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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


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metal_xxx wrote:
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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.

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Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):

Mate, you interested in promos or not? If so, there's a couple on there I'd go for, and a few more than sound interesting. As long as it's not ALL hardcore...

I don't mind promos if they're just normal CDs stamped as promos. I don't want CDRs, or slimline promos chopped into 99 tracks, or anything in cardboard sleeves, unless that's the only way to get it.

And there's only a few hardcore CDs on that list.


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Afro Lint wrote:
Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):

Mate, you interested in promos or not? If so, there's a couple on there I'd go for, and a few more than sound interesting. As long as it's not ALL hardcore...

I don't mind promos if they're just normal CDs stamped as promos. I don't want CDRs, or slimline promos chopped into 99 tracks, or anything in cardboard sleeves, unless that's the only way to get it.

And there's only a few hardcore CDs on that list.


Mine are mostly cardboard sleeved. :lame:

Mintrude, would you be interested in promos for the Xasthur? :)

And Advesor, what religion are you?


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It's funny. This notion of CD prices being a rip-off still doesn't give you a right to steal it. Lots of things are over-priced! I never felt like I could fucking steal CDs when I walked into a store at 14, before I could work, and couldn't afford to buy anything. Some of you are ridiculous.

You're not supposed to steal. If you do, shut the fuck up and admit that you're a goddamn thief. Stop trying to turn downloading music into something noble. You're a thief. Plain and simple. If you want to buy CDs, work harder.


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music downloading isn't stealing where i live 'cause its legal

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Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular.

Eh, that's like saying "oh hey no point in buying an album once its in print, I mean the band isn't very popular so I doubt their will be another run anyways".

The only difference between buying in-store and ordering online is paying someone for shelf space vs paying someone to deliver it to you.


I dont buy cd's online, I order cd's trough a retail store in which the guy has to add the cd on to his order from the same distributor, which results in an extra soundscanned copy. Buying online is no different than buying in a store, they already bought the albums, why make the retailer money?

so he doesn't charge you anything to add the copy to his order and send it to you? o.O


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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.


I'd trade a few of my classical CD's if anybody is interested.


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Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):

Mate, you interested in promos or not? If so, there's a couple on there I'd go for, and a few more than sound interesting. As long as it's not ALL hardcore...

I don't mind promos if they're just normal CDs stamped as promos. I don't want CDRs, or slimline promos chopped into 99 tracks, or anything in cardboard sleeves, unless that's the only way to get it.

And there's only a few hardcore CDs on that list.


Mine are mostly cardboard sleeved. :lame:

Mintrude, would you be interested in promos for the Xasthur? :)



Absolutely. What've you got?


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Mintrude wrote:
Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Zad wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Well, this thread flopped, but here's some I have for trade (just in case):

Mate, you interested in promos or not? If so, there's a couple on there I'd go for, and a few more than sound interesting. As long as it's not ALL hardcore...

I don't mind promos if they're just normal CDs stamped as promos. I don't want CDRs, or slimline promos chopped into 99 tracks, or anything in cardboard sleeves, unless that's the only way to get it.

And there's only a few hardcore CDs on that list.


Mine are mostly cardboard sleeved. :lame:

Mintrude, would you be interested in promos for the Xasthur? :)



Absolutely. What've you got?


I'll post a list later, currently at work.


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Oh, and I have a copy of Pantera-Far Beyond Driven that I'd be willing to part with.


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noodles wrote:
music downloading isn't stealing where i live 'cause its legal

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Buying a cd that is already in the store does no good, it has already been soundscanned, sold and contributed to the band. There's little chance of it getting re-ordered if it is not fairly popular.

Eh, that's like saying "oh hey no point in buying an album once its in print, I mean the band isn't very popular so I doubt their will be another run anyways".

The only difference between buying in-store and ordering online is paying someone for shelf space vs paying someone to deliver it to you.


I dont buy cd's online, I order cd's trough a retail store in which the guy has to add the cd on to his order from the same distributor, which results in an extra soundscanned copy. Buying online is no different than buying in a store, they already bought the albums, why make the retailer money?

so he doesn't charge you anything to add the copy to his order and send it to you? o.O


I usually pay a much cheaper price, like a dollar or two above what he gest it for.

Basically 8 bucks for value priced cd's (like any VH disc) 10 bucks for mid-line cd's (like old Metal blade issues) and 14 for expensive stuff .

I go to a retail store, I don't have the stuff sent to me.

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