GeneralDiomedes wrote:
IronDuchess wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
and a lot of black metal just doesn't work that well live.
Which bands are you referring to?
Seeing Warthane and Sacrifist on Thursday. Kind of curious since I've never heard either band's material before, we'll see how it goes.
Don't worry, I'm a BM fan. I think it was more to do with the big festival setting. I guess 'doesn't work' is too strong of a statement, I should have said something like 'less entertaining'.
Most of if you can't sing along to, nor can you really headbang or mosh effectively to blastbeats and constant time changes. A lot of it relies on production, mood and atmosphere. So at a festival with 70,000+ people you simply get a larger and more engaged crowd for bands like Hammerfall and Testament as compared to Enslaved or Borknagar. Even though I would rather listen to Enslaved than Hammerfall, I had more fun watching Hammerfall live.
An all-BM show at a smaller venue I think would just be a different atmosphere; you would be pre-disposed to simply absorb the music.
I see what you're saying (was there this year as well, actually), but I think part of the problem is that the set times weren't particularly ideal this year for a lot of bm bands. Personally, I don't mind the no singing along and very little crowd engagement, since I really don't expect that at a bm show. But for me seeing Vreid, for example, at noon kind of took away from the show a little (though in some ways it was good because it meant I wasn't totally wasted for the show, as I would have been had it been at midnight). It didn't really bother me that I was the only one around my area belting out the lyrics to Speak Goddamnit or anything like that. I enjoyed the show as much as I did more engaged bands anyways. Last year I saw Nifelheim at Wacken and to me that was far more ideal since they played after sunset and even though they were in the tent it was kind of nice since there weren't that many people there. Most bm bands I prefer just to stand back, enjoy the show and headbang rather than get as engaged/involved in a pit as I would for a thrash or death metal band, anyways, no matter if its a festival or regular show.
Its just a matter of getting different things from different shows. Even though the crowd wasn't as engaged as in the Running Wild shows, fex., Vreid was still up there with the RW show as my favourite show at Wacken this year just because I loved the music. I wouldn't have called it less entertaining, because I equally enjoyed watching both bands. The only thing I would have changed would have been the time of the set.
Anyways, that's my take on festivals and bm bands vs. other bands as live acts at festivals.
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