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How much did that set you back?

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I've been wantng to try to get into RM for some time (I just know a few songs), that was a good opportunity.


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50€ and free shipping.
I've been wantng to try to get into RM for some time (I just know a few songs), that was a good opportunity.


U-hum. That sounds good.

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We'll see how the label packaged it. The price tells me it's going to be minimal and cheap but I though the same with the Kinks mono box set which turned out to be a nice and well crafted object... We'll see...


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We'll see how the label packaged it. The price tells me it's going to be minimal and cheap but I though the same with the Kinks mono box set which turned out to be a nice and well crafted object... We'll see...


Yeah. It seemed nice enough when I googled it. It was this guy holding it with the background of thousands of vinyls!

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Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother (I love this band more and more with each passing year of my life, truly tremendous)
Scorpions - Three CD packaging of In Trance, Virgin Killer, Taken By Force

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Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother (I love this band more and more with each passing year of my life, truly tremendous)


Good man.

My favourite band since I was 14, and there is no sign of them being overtaken any time soon....

EDIT: also, Atom Heart Mother is quite underrated. How do you like it? A lot of people think side 1 is average and side 2 is total bullshit, but I think side 1 is essential and side 2 is pretty good.


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Define Infinity wrote:
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother (I love this band more and more with each passing year of my life, truly tremendous)


Good man.

My favourite band since I was 14, and there is no sign of them being overtaken any time soon....

EDIT: also, Atom Heart Mother is quite underrated. How do you like it? A lot of people think side 1 is average and side 2 is total bullshit, but I think side 1 is essential and side 2 is pretty good.


I think the whole album is fuckin' great. I mean it's a lot to taken in one listen and I've just finished listening to it. Who are those people that think side B is not good?

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Most of my friends are prog-heads (I don't really know any metal heads outside of this forum) and a lot of them think side 2 is crap.

Also I am a forumite over at prog archives, and with a lot of the reviews of this album there, and actually just around the internet in general, I think you'll find people trashing side 2.

You'll even find people trashing side 1, though it is more rare.


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Most of my friends are prog-heads (I don't really know any metal heads outside of this forum) and a lot of them think side 2 is crap.

Also I am a forumite over at prog archives, and with a lot of the reviews of this album there, and actually just around the internet in general, I think you'll find people trashing side 2.

You'll even find people trashing side 1, though it is more rare.


1. From my part, I definitely need to listen to it more to give a fair Judgement.

2. I highly doubt PINK FLOYD is even capable creating something less than great.

3. What's the logic behind these people's thoughts that think the album is a waste of time?

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To answer point 3, well, it's too experimental for some. Which is to say, they feel the experimentation has gone too far at the expense of listening enjoyment.

Another factor is that the band themselves think it is arguably the worst thing they ever did.

Here's Roger Waters:

"Atom Heart Mother is a good case, I think, for being thrown into the dustbin and never listened to by anyone ever again!... It was pretty kind of pompous, it wasn't really about anything."

And here's David Gilmour:

"I wouldn't dream of performing anything that embarrassed me. If somebody said to me now: "Right...here's a million pounds, go out and play 'Atom Heart Mother'", I'd say: "You must be fucking joking... I'm not playing that rubbish!". 'Cause then I really would be embarrassed."

So I think a lot of people would hear those sorts of comments and think "well, it must be rubbish then" and then listen to the album knowing in the back of their heads the creators don't even like it. Which would affect your judgement in some cases, I think.

Regardless, I think it is a brilliant and vital and essential album. That may have something to do with having heard it on lots of acid, hehehe.

With all that said, to answer point 2, I do think Pink Floyd, as much as I love them, are capable of screwing up. I think the early period stuff before Atom Heart Mother is hit and miss, particularly Umma Gumma which is unlistenable in places.

Also the very late period stuff is less than phenomenal. Every thing after The Wall. None of it is unlistenable, but it doesn't reach the heights of their golden period stuff.


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To answer point 3, well, it's too experimental for some. Which is to say, they feel the experimentation has gone too far at the expense of listening enjoyment.

Another factor is that the band themselves think it is arguably the worst thing they ever did.

Here's Roger Waters:

"Atom Heart Mother is a good case, I think, for being thrown into the dustbin and never listened to by anyone ever again!... It was pretty kind of pompous, it wasn't really about anything."

And here's David Gilmour:

"I wouldn't dream of performing anything that embarrassed me. If somebody said to me now: "Right...here's a million pounds, go out and play 'Atom Heart Mother'", I'd say: "You must be fucking joking... I'm not playing that rubbish!". 'Cause then I really would be embarrassed."

So I think a lot of people would hear those sorts of comments and think "well, it must be rubbish then" and then listen to the album knowing in the back of their heads the creators don't even like it. Which would affect your judgement in some cases, I think.

Regardless, I think it is a brilliant and vital and essential album. That may have something to do with having heard it on lots of acid, hehehe.

With all that said, to answer point 2, I do think Pink Floyd, as much as I love them, are capable of screwing up. I think the early period stuff before Atom Heart Mother is hit and miss, particularly Umma Gumma which is unlistenable in places.

Also the very late period stuff is less than phenomenal. Every thing after The Wall. None of it is unlistenable, but it doesn't reach the heights of their golden period stuff.


U-hum. I must restate my statement about Pink Floyd and greatness. I think their early periods are fuckin' phenomenal. A Saucerful of Secrets, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother (This album is memorable, complex, dense, experimental as shit, goes beyond boarders of any imagination), and Meddle. All these albums are fuckin' excellent in my eyes (and I have given them many repeated listens). Then we have: Obscured by Clouds, The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals: with Dark side being one of least favourites among the aforementioned and Animals and Wish being among the most played albums in my collection. Also, The Wall which I don't like that much, either. I mean it's easy listening Pink Floyd, right? The Final Cut... Ummm... another album I haven't listened to that much. Then Division which is very popish but I do like it, nonetheless. Although it obviously has no competition with the classic Floyds. And Momentary is probably an album I won't be buying any time soon!

In terms of Atom Heart Mother, I think it's a brilliant album listening to it right now once again. I mean its ideas are really out there... but isn't that the heights of artistic creativity when one pushes limit after limit in a void of eternal formlessness. That's the reason its has gotten so much hate and dislike I believe.

I have never done acid, but have mushroom quite a few times. Will never do psychedelics ever again but Animals and Wish You Were Here just with smoking weed (which was also several years back) was an absolutely phenomenal experience.

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I've enjoyed reading both of your posts on the Floyd, guys, thanks. I'll have to get all my old cds from the closet and listen again.

Animals always struck me as one of those albums that was perfectly made; I always feel like I'm hearing a band at the peak of their powers on that one.


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U-hum. I must restate my statement about Pink Floyd and greatness. I think their early periods are fuckin' phenomenal. A Saucerful of Secrets, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother (This album is memorable, complex, dense, experimental as shit, goes beyond boarders of any imagination), and Meddle. All these albums are fuckin' excellent in my eyes (and I have given them many repeated listens). Then we have: Obscured by Clouds, The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals: with Dark side being one of least favourites among the aforementioned and Animals and Wish being among the most played albums in my collection. Also, The Wall which I don't like that much, either. I mean it's easy listening Pink Floyd, right? The Final Cut... Ummm... another album I haven't listened to that much. Then Division which is very popish but I do like it, nonetheless. Although it obviously has no competition with the classic Floyds. And Momentary is probably an album I won't be buying any time soon!

In terms of Atom Heart Mother, I think it's a brilliant album listening to it right now once again. I mean its ideas are really out there... but isn't that the heights of artistic creativity when one pushes limit after limit in a void of eternal formlessness. That's the reason its has gotten so much hate and dislike I believe.

I have never done acid, but have mushroom quite a few times. Will never do psychedelics ever again but Animals and Wish You Were Here just with smoking weed (which was also several years back) was an absolutely phenomenal experience.


I agree completely on Meddle, brilliant album.

And my favourites are also Wish You Were Here and Animals, with Dark Side being my least favourite from the golden period, so we agree on quite a lot actually.

The "golden period", by the way, I consider to be everything from Atom Heart Mother to The Wall, including both of those albums.

As for the earlier stuff, I think Piper is ok (not a huge barrett fan), Saucerful is better. I like Waters' increased songwriting presence on it. Music from the film More is neither here nor there. Good background music, and it was their first film score after all. Umma Gumma, as I said, is patchy. A bit hit and miss.

The later stuff is what it is. Trying to recapture past glories and succeeding to an extent, with listenable, unoffensive albums.

Still, that "golden period" is 7 of the greatest albums ever recorded, which is more than enough to make them legendary and my favourite band.

Oh, by the way, if you don't like The Wall, you might hate the Final Cut. It's a lot like The Wall, but even simpler and gloomier.

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Animals always struck me as one of those albums that was perfectly made; I always feel like I'm hearing a band at the peak of their powers on that one.


Couldn't have said it better myself!


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Yeah, I've owned the Final Cut for many years now. But it never seemed like an album that would deserve repeated plays.

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I quite like this aborted album. Surprised to see the reviews around the net are mostly "meh".


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