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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.

Why because you disagree? People want all the benefits of association and none of the responsibilities, why is that something to be supported? That's called hypocrisy and no one with any brains thinks hypocrisy is acceptable.

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Adveser wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
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metal_xxx wrote:
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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.

Why because you disagree? People want all the benefits of association and none of the responsibilities, why is that something to be supported? That's called hypocrisy and no one with any brains thinks hypocrisy is acceptable.


You're being a hypocrite too, you complain at him for stealing music even though you admit to doing it yourself. But you've made up your own laws, so that makes it okay. I'm not saying I don't download music, I do, I both buy and download music, but atleast I'm not being a self-righteous asshole about it.


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The Satanic revolution starts here: by stealing as much music as possible, we force the evil Christian record industry to its knees!


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Adveser wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.

Why because you disagree? People want all the benefits of association and none of the responsibilities, why is that something to be supported? That's called hypocrisy and no one with any brains thinks hypocrisy is acceptable.
no because you are being so vclose-minded it fucking hurts.


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The Satanic revolution starts here: by stealing as much music as possible, we force the evil Christian record industry to its knees!


I would like to bring down whatever shitty Record Label that unleashed Mortification and Tourniquet onto the wrold. What a bunch of crap those bands are. Having talent other than calling yourself a Christian should be required.


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metal_xxx wrote:
Adveser wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Adveser wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.

Why because you disagree? People want all the benefits of association and none of the responsibilities, why is that something to be supported? That's called hypocrisy and no one with any brains thinks hypocrisy is acceptable.
no because you are being so vclose-minded it fucking hurts.


Absolutely: I refuse to be open-minded about religion. Fuck religion and its horrible influence on the world.

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EdgeOfForever wrote:
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metalNESS wrote:
Adveser wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
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1. You're a hyprocrite. How can a self-professed christian blatantly steal music and act like they are doing anything is insanely stupid.


hypocrite actually? are you serious man? Then i think about 9/10 regular christians are hypocrit... And are you actually expecting christians to be perfect in their behaviour? You don't know how much i wanted to say fuck off after that statement..


Yeah, I think if people are going to be self-righteous enough to use religion as an explanation for certain things when it is convienient, I think they should abide by its shaky moral obligations as well.

I am most definitely not a Christian, but I actually give a shit about my religion and adhere to its theory and practice, although this is a bit easier in my case because it requires no behavioural modification on my part. I can't really expect a christian to follow thier religion when it is so much in conflict with human nature. So I think people should drop the stupid titles if they aren't gonna go with it fully.


That has to be the stupidest thing you've said on this message board, and you've said a lot of stupid shit.

Why because you disagree? People want all the benefits of association and none of the responsibilities, why is that something to be supported? That's called hypocrisy and no one with any brains thinks hypocrisy is acceptable.


You're being a hypocrite too, you complain at him for stealing music even though you admit to doing it yourself. But you've made up your own laws, so that makes it okay. I'm not saying I don't download music, I do, I both buy and download music, but atleast I'm not being a self-righteous asshole about it.


I have no problem with people downloading music, but the minute it starts to replace buying music, then it is definitely wrong. Sure i'm self-righteous about it, that's because I go to the store and spend most of my disposable income on music because I love it and the people who make it. I obviously think it is wrong for people to buy nothing, close to nothing or very little becauser they can get it for free anyway. I think that's just dispicable. I understand that Metal albums don't stay in print forever and there's simply too much volume and in a lot of cases lack of value for what you buy. I mean you can't expect to pay for 1/10 cd's you have and claim "i buy music too." please.

Like I said, I buy it because I love it or delete it because it sucks and is not worth my money. To me, there's no middle road that says I can download what I want and pay for what I want because I feel like it. That is not right.

People can do what they wish, but don't act like there is something wrong with another person for pointing out the wrong-ness of downloading more than someone buys.

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theres a lot worse stuff going on in the world right now than people downloading music. if i'm going to be judgmental about something it's gonna be one of those things. i feel more guilty about not sending all of the money i don't spend on food/rent to starving african children than i do about not buying all the music i listen to


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Adveser wrote:
Absolutely: I refuse to be open-minded about religion. Fuck religion and its horrible influence on the world.

Ooh, so edgy.


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Afro Lint wrote:
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Absolutely: I refuse to be open-minded about religion. Fuck religion and its horrible influence on the world.

Ooh, so edgy.


You forgot to mention cliched and trite. Sorry but an honest opinion no matter how many times expressed can still be honest.

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theres a lot worse stuff going on in the world right now than people downloading music. if i'm going to be judgmental about something it's gonna be one of those things. i feel more guilty about not sending all of the money i don't spend on food/rent to starving african children than i do about not buying all the music i listen to


Sure there's worse things going on, but that isn't the point.

I'm just suggesting that people pay for at least half the music they listen to, is that not fair? Sure we can't all buy 20 cd's a month, but we can at least buy what we can, if not, maybe listen to less music. If it's that important to listen to music to a degree where you can't afford to at least buy half of what you like, then do something else, if its not important enough to care about the musicians involved why is it important enough to listen to at all?

I mean, If an album is not valueble to you at all, why listen to it? if it is valueble to you, why not give something back to the guys (or gals) that made it.

I'm a sound engineer who would like to make a living doing what I love, I can't do that when everyone cares just enough about music spend 5 minutes downloading it because they don't place any intrinsic value in music.

There will never, ever be a way to stop music from being stored digitally, if you can hear it, a mic can pick it up and re-record it, but I guess people just don't care and one day we will all rely on terribly recorded myspace bands to get music because no one wants to finance something they will get no return on.

Doesn't anyone think it is embarrasing that fergie can sell 5 million records, but metal fans that brag about thier love and dedication to music can't even make an album go gold because of a sheer lack of support.

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Adveser wrote:
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Absolutely: I refuse to be open-minded about religion. Fuck religion and its horrible influence on the world.

Ooh, so edgy.

You forgot to mention cliched and trite. Sorry but an honest opinion no matter how many times expressed can still be honest.

I know plenty of wonderful people that follow many different religions. You're an ignorant prick. You're insulting every religious person out there with your nonsense. If you have issues with aspects of organized religion, that's fine, but why not try and formulate your thoughts a bit before you spout off insulting bullshit?

For the most part, religion is positive. I'm not a Christian, but I appreciate the positive effect it can have on people. Quite a contrast from negative, self-loathing assclowns like you, eh?


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Adveser wrote:
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theres a lot worse stuff going on in the world right now than people downloading music. if i'm going to be judgmental about something it's gonna be one of those things. i feel more guilty about not sending all of the money i don't spend on food/rent to starving african children than i do about not buying all the music i listen to


Sure there's worse things going on, but that isn't the point.

I'm just suggesting that people pay for at least half the music they listen to, is that not fair? Sure we can't all buy 20 cd's a month, but we can at least buy what we can, if not, maybe listen to less music. If it's that important to listen to music to a degree where you can't afford to at least buy half of what you like, then do something else, if its not important enough to care about the musicians involved why is it important enough to listen to at all?

I mean, If an album is not valueble to you at all, why listen to it? if it is valueble to you, why not give something back to the guys (or gals) that made it.

I'm a sound engineer who would like to make a living doing what I love, I can't do that when everyone cares just enough about music spend 5 minutes downloading it because they don't place any intrinsic value in music.

There will never, ever be a way to stop music from being stored digitally, if you can hear it, a mic can pick it up and re-record it, but I guess people just don't care and one day we will all rely on terribly recorded myspace bands to get music because no one wants to finance something they will get no return on.

yeah i think its terrible and not fair and all that but i'd rather people listen to music than not listen to music so i'm all for downloading. whether they actually pay for it is up to them.


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Yeah, and it's up to me whether I want to pay for this nice pair of pants I saw at the store. :rolleyes:
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Sinamore - A New Day (no back insert)


Deer Afrolint, i r want dis album. Wat am you want four eet?

Everyone, mind that I am in Australia. Postage will cost a little more and take a little longer, but not prohibitive.
Here is my crappy, short list (like my stuff):


Beyond Twilight - The Devil's Hall of Fame
Dark Funeral/Infernal split - Under Wings of Hell
Fear Factory - Transgression
Deicide - Self titled
Deicide - Once Upon The Cross
Sadistik Exekution - The Magus
Strapping Young Lad - Heavy As A Really Heavy Thing

Non-Metal Junk Lul
AFI - Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes
AFI - The Art of Drowning
Paradise Lost - Believe In Nothing
Thrice - The Artist In The Ambulance


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Sasheron wrote:
Yeah, and it's up to me whether I want to pay for this nice pair of pants I saw at the store. :rolleyes:
Afro Lint wrote:
Sinamore - A New Day (no back insert)


Deer Afrolint, i r want dis album. Wat am you want four eet?

Everyone, mind that I am in Australia. Postage will cost a little more and take a little longer, but not prohibitive.
Here is my crappy, short list (like my stuff):


Beyond Twilight - The Devil's Hall of Fame
Dark Funeral/Infernal split - Under Wings of Hell
Fear Factory - Transgression
Deicide - Self titled
Deicide - Once Upon The Cross
Sadistik Exekution - The Magus
Strapping Young Lad - Heavy As A Really Heavy Thing

Non-Metal Junk Lul
AFI - Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes
AFI - The Art of Drowning
Paradise Lost - Believe In Nothing
Thrice - The Artist In The Ambulance


Ooh, I'm interested in a couple of those. I don't suppose you're interested in promos (forgot to do the list, buggrit) or have an Anthrax Best Of-sized hole in your collection?


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Afro Lint wrote:
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Absolutely: I refuse to be open-minded about religion. Fuck religion and its horrible influence on the world.

Ooh, so edgy.

You forgot to mention cliched and trite. Sorry but an honest opinion no matter how many times expressed can still be honest.

I know plenty of wonderful people that follow many different religions. You're an ignorant prick. You're insulting every religious person out there with your nonsense. If you have issues with aspects of organized religion, that's fine, but why not try and formulate your thoughts a bit before you spout off insulting bullshit?

For the most part, religion is positive. I'm not a Christian, but I appreciate the positive effect it can have on people. Quite a contrast from negative, self-loathing assclowns like you, eh?


negative and self-loathing? quite the contrary

I don't need to formulate my thoughts any further, there's one philosophy that sums it all up perfectly, but it's not my place to sell it here "responsibility to the responsibile"

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Religions suck, the people that follow them don't always.

One thing that Christians are good at is music. From Classical to Gospel, there's some great stuff out there if you ignore the fact that it's not metal.


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Religions suck, the people that follow them don't always.

One thing that Christians are good at is music. From Classical to Gospel, there's some great stuff out there if you ignore the fact that it's not metal.
Let me add to that by bringing up Gregorian Chant. Is there anyone out there that doesn't love that stuff?


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Religions suck, the people that follow them don't always.

One thing that Christians are good at is music. From Classical to Gospel, there's some great stuff out there if you ignore the fact that it's not metal.


There are also a lot of good Christian metal bands... power metal bands that is.


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Religions suck, the people that follow them don't always.

One thing that Christians are good at is music. From Classical to Gospel, there's some great stuff out there if you ignore the fact that it's not metal.


There are also a lot of good Christian metal bands... power metal bands that is.


Ha, of course, although I have trouble sometimes knowing if they're really truly Christian or if there's an element of piss-takery in there. Eg - Cage - Christhammer


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