The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
the pretension of Misha.
Care to explain?
You got it Stefan.
"The nice change of pace thread" from 2006 on the Metalreviews.com forum
http://www.metalreviews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5887The meaty part begins at the bottom of page 1 when I thank Misha for the Solstafir review (turns out it was your recommendation, Stefan, thanks again). He claims I never would have checked it had he 'properly labelled it as hardcore', which you noted it was not hardcore. His quote from page 2, where he is referring to me:
"You forgot he's not interested, only if I give it a metallish label. Sólstafir actually describe themselves as hardcore, with a reason. If I would have labeled it that, the poor guy would have overlooked it like my other reviewed albums. I needed to start lightly on the readers here, for them to remain insterested, that's why I mislabeled some bands' genres."
Funny looking back, and definitely an example of Misha's pretension.
Ok. But I think posting it out of context wasn't the fairest thing to do. Trust me, I knew Misha quite well back then and he was evolving so fast some "technical terms" were eluding him, he was not the pretentious ass you seem to recall. Imho, what he meant with "hardcore" was there was a strong post-hardcore influence in Solstafir's music which was actually right.
Anyway, as you pointed out, it was me who recommended Solstafir - a truly brilliant band - which proves to Herr Valefor (whatever is name is lately) that I have not given up on metal altogether. I'm just a lot more choosey than I used to be.
How exactly am I posting out of context? I was aiming to thank him and you for recommending and reviewing a good record. His response was to talk to down to me like I was some sort of cro-magnon man.
I remember some people rejecting anything that wasn't "proper metal music", that's probably why Misha - who, I repeat it, was not as you perceived him - was a little annoyed. Maybe he was wrong but it was not pretention or anything just a young man falling in love with many new musics and not understanding why other forumites were not as open-minded and enthusiastic about as he was.
What a shocker that is... people that come to a website called "metalreviews" being solely interested in metal reviews.
Sadly, there are people out there that feel the need to parade their musical tastes as a banner of "intelligence" or as a one-up-manship thing, as in "I know more bands and have delved deeper into the subterranean world of music than anyone else" and "you listen to garbage while I, on the other hand, listen to real music". In fact I believe he even created a thread titled "real music".
Just the fact that he felt that being insulting towards another poster for not sharing his appteite for pseudo-jazz-avant-garde-post-this-or-post-that-whatever was justified really says it all.
Both condescending and pretentious, as if we are all a bunch of unwashed knuckle-draggers.
Well, fuck that action.
He was "annoyed", was he?
Fuck him.
If I want to read about that crap, I'll go somewhere other than a METAL reviews website, and I certainly would expect that if I showed no interest whatsoever in whatever the hell musical style
du jour he was imploring on us was, that I wouldn't be condescended to as being 'close minded" and whatnot.