Metal Reviews

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Blessed Death- Hour of Pain (1991) - Christian Thrash
Final Axe - The Axe of The Apostles (2006) - Christian Traditional/Speed Metal
The Famine - the Raven and the Reaping (2008) - Christian Death/Groove
Trenches- The Tide Will Swallow Us (2008) - Christian Ambient/Post-Metal/Metalcore
Living Sacrifice - Living Sacrifice (1991) - Christian Thrash
Living Sacrifice -Nonexistant (1992) - Christian Death
Living Sacrifice -Inhabit (1994) - Christian Brutal Death
Living Sacrifice - Reborn (1997) - Christian Modern Metalcore with Old-School Death/Groove Influences
Living Sacrifice- The Hammering Process (2000)- Same as Reborn
Living Sacrifice - Concieved in Fire (2002) - Same as Reborn

So yeah, getting back on the topic of Christian metal....

Check out the entire Mortification discography. There's only a couple of duds throughout (The Silver Cord Is Severed and The Evil Addiction Destroying Machine come to mind), but the rest ranges from fairly solid to stellar thrashy death metal. Their self titled debut and the follow up Scrolls Of The Megilloth (Best Christian death metal album ever so far as I'm concerened) are highly recommended by me.

I can attest to the quality of Living Sacrifice's "Concieved In Fire." That's a darn good album.

Ok, well not sure anybody will even agree but if you are looking for a good Christian band, then by all means check out Barren Cross, their singer Mike Lee has some Bruce Dickinson in him and they were actually a good heavy metal band, not thrash but good and really were much better than Stryper.

I totally love Barren Cross, especially State of Control.

Spread Jesus' message of hate bitches!

Niklas Kvarforth is pretty much living the above quote every day, so I'll propose Shining. Also Antaeus might be suitable.

Pretty much every Limp Bizkit fan ever then, what with the hating of parents.

I think Jesus was being a bit less literal than that, however. It's either a Life Of Brian-esque 'piss off and leave me alone' or an intense 'this philosophy ain't for everyone, bitches'.

I think we need to look at the context this verse is in.

Here, Jesus is speaking to those who are following Him, seeking to become a part of the small group of disciples. At this point, the disciples had not all been persecuted, but the persecution was coming. It would not be long before the apostles would all be martyred. Jesus is not looking for people who will join up with Him for a season. Rather, Jesus is looking for people who will be willing to stand with Him through whatever may come. When Jesus spoke these words, He knew that the full force of persecution would come from the Roman Empire (and later, the Roman church). He knew that those who associated with Him would be boiled, crucified, stoned or exiled. Knowing this, Jesus did not want people to follow Him who were not willing to make such a sacrifice. I think he was suspicious of his followers intentions and He knew he was a "pop" phenomena and many people were following Him because He was the "hot" item those days.

So i think he said that to shock and to separate the "chaff from the wheat" so to speak. He did follow up with other parables illustrating the cost of being a disciple. So do i really think he wanted us to hate our family? No, there are several other verses telling us to provide for our family and respect our parents (the fifth commandment)

Wow, so clever. You really got all those Christians. It's ok, let yourself have a little smug smile.

This.

"This is the life we chose, the life we lead, and there is only one thing guaranteed -- none of us will see heaven."

Well, it nearly fits.

Cherry picking ftw.

Come on, guys.

Yeah, it totally rocks man

But that was just some of my thoughts on this matter though. There were after all only 12 disciples in the end and not 738 were there now? Apparently those 12 were the only ones who were hardcore enough to see this thing through to the end

Each had a special ability, and working together as a team was the only way they could defeat their enemies.

lol

But to get back on the topic at hand, i urge people to check out Cage's Hell Destroyer, it's a really good heavy metal album, kinda reminds me of a christian version of Judas Priest.

I never understood why Judas was made out to be such a bad guy. It always seemed to me like, if he hadn't given Jesus away, then he never would have been crucified, thus he never would've been sacrificed and "died for our sins," so to speak. Sounds to me like Judas always gets shafted.

If there's a disciple who should be looked at as a bad guy, it's that one dude (can't remember who) who, when Jesus was all beaten and bloody and ready to be crucified approached and said "Help me out here, man," the dude just said, "Nah, bro, I don't know ye." That guy sounds like a total dick to me.

Uhmm… I am quite amazed that anyone actually took that post of mine that seriously. I am aware that this quote is taken out of context and that it is not meant to be interpreted literally and in isolation (I left out 14:27 on purpose you see ). Unlike many of the christians here I have actually read the bible on several different occasions. I also know that you can't sum up a complex system of symbols and ideas in a single quote taken out of context. I'll leave the contradiction-argument un-addressed as starting an enumeration of contradictions in religious texts will lead to extensive, fruitless and irrelevant discussion. I was just having a bit of fun driving the idea of so-called "christian Metal" ad absurdum which I thought was pretty obvious from the bands I recommended.

I'm not trying to be clever or to "get all those christians". A single quote out of context would be a pretty feeble attempt if that was my intention. Granted I am not a big fan of christianity (or any paradigm of normative morals and easy answers to complex questions for that matter), but I am not affected enough by other peoples' spirituality to actually care about it as long as they keep away from me. I hope you enjoyed your own little smug smile for what you thought was a keen observation on my motivations, but I'll maintain that it was a fairly obvious joke.

So clever indeed