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 Post subject: the new way to stop file-sharing
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:47 am 
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071217/download

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:51 am 
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That scares the shit out of me since a third of my tuition is paid by grants.


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The capacity the MPAA and RIAA have for fucking just about everyone over is truly awesome to behold.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:43 pm 
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read the article:

This is only applicable for On Campus stealing. Every college in the US has explained explicidely that if you use thier equpiment to download copyrighted materials (and infringing on them) you can be dismissed from the college.

I wonder if this applied to dorm rooms internet service as well. If it does, get a private satellite based connection and don't use thier intranet system.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:57 pm 
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from another forum i posted this on:

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this puts colleges in the position of being law enforcement agents. This is like saying they wont pave the roads through campus unless they start handing out speeding tickets

although I thought I remembered that this was DOA in the senate, the stuff you linked is all dated Nov 12.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:18 am 
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You steal, you pay.


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Afro Lint wrote:
You steal, you pay.


While we're at it, why don't we cut off the hands everyone who downloads music? Alternatively, I've always said that the "heads on pikes" method of punishment deserves a comeback. Maybe even blood eagling!

To stop funding colleges over the actions of a few students that leads to everyone getting fucked over, over laws that are fiercely debated is about as retarded as sticking your dick in a lemur's mouth.

I know you're all fire and brimstone over the downloading issue, Kenneth, because Napster raped you as a child or something. But this bill is completely ridiculous, and warrants more of a response than "and thus the Lord said that downloading is wrong, an everlasting fire awaits those who violate His sacred commandments."


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It's a good way to curb illegal downloading, but consider the fact that it IS a little bit too harsh, especially if the kid (college go-er) comes from a poor background.


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Afro Lint wrote:
You steal, you pay.
Should a guy who steals an apple suffer the same punishment?

There is far worse matters of stealing, than downloading.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:38 pm 
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You steal, you pay.


Man, you're just being stupid here!
I download a shitload of music and, yet, I've never bought so many albums... Downloading can be a nice way to discover an artist/album before you buy it or to not make the mistake to buy sometjing you're not going to enjoy.

FYI, I've bought a little more than 400 cds in 2007, I therefore would feel it unjust if any authority made me paid a fine for downloading!


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Stefan wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
You steal, you pay.


Man, you're just being stupid here!
I download a shitload of music and, yet, I've never bought so many albums... Downloading can be a nice way to discover an artist/album before you buy it or to not make the mistake to buy sometjing you're not going to enjoy.

FYI, I've bought a little more than 400 cds in 2007, I therefore would feel it unjust if any authority made me paid a fine for downloading!


Yes, but you can see where he's coming from. MySpace's enough to see what the band sound like, and part of the fun is the discovery process. Plus, he's bought nearly 1000, and I know you listen to lots - how many albums have you downloaded? More than 400, quite possibly, so that's taking more than you paid for...

I should start counting how many albums I bought this year...


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Zad wrote:
MySpace's enough to see what the band sound like


not for me >.<. i mean dillinger escape plan even streamed their entire new album from their myspace and listening to it I thought it sucked then I downloaded it and loved it =\

Also this isn't so much about punishing downloaders (which I think is pointless and futile), so much as coercing schools into paying for anti-downloading measures by threatening to withdraw their government funding, which is just fucking crazy.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:00 am 
Zad wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
You steal, you pay.


Man, you're just being stupid here!
I download a shitload of music and, yet, I've never bought so many albums... Downloading can be a nice way to discover an artist/album before you buy it or to not make the mistake to buy sometjing you're not going to enjoy.

FYI, I've bought a little more than 400 cds in 2007, I therefore would feel it unjust if any authority made me paid a fine for downloading!


Yes, but you can see where he's coming from. MySpace's enough to see what the band sound like, and part of the fun is the discovery process. Plus, he's bought nearly 1000, and I know you listen to lots - how many albums have you downloaded? More than 400, quite possibly, so that's taking more than you paid for...

I should start counting how many albums I bought this year...


Myspace is not enough for me. A band can easily pick his finest 2/3 songs... If the rest is shite (or even average), it hardly makes a satisfying album...

And I honestly don't know how many albums I downloaded, what I know is I couldn't possibly buy any more cd's considering my budget. Plus, one must not forget the fact that many people (including me) also download albums that are no longer available in the stores, is that acceptable? Checking out what I've downloaded, I realise about half of what I downloaded falls into that "unavailable records" category.

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Zad wrote:
MySpace's enough to see what the band sound like


not for me >.<. i mean dillinger escape plan even streamed their entire new album from their myspace and listening to it I thought it sucked then I downloaded it and loved it =\


Did you buy it then?


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Stefan wrote:
noodles wrote:
Zad wrote:
MySpace's enough to see what the band sound like


not for me >.<. i mean dillinger escape plan even streamed their entire new album from their myspace and listening to it I thought it sucked then I downloaded it and loved it =\


Did you buy it then?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:14 am 
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what people do not consider about myspace is the quality is VERY low, half the sample rate and half the bitrate of a cd. That is not good enough to determine anything other than a rough idea of what the song sounds like

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what people do not consider about myspace is the quality is VERY low, half the sample rate and half the bitrate of a cd. That is not good enough to determine anything other than a rough idea of what the song sounds like

yeah thats one problem

my main problems are that knowing what a band sounds like doesn't help me decide how good they are at all and nearly any band can entertain me three songs at a time


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noodles wrote:
Adveser wrote:
what people do not consider about myspace is the quality is VERY low, half the sample rate and half the bitrate of a cd. That is not good enough to determine anything other than a rough idea of what the song sounds like

yeah thats one problem

my main problems are that knowing what a band sounds like doesn't help me decide how good they are at all and nearly any band can entertain me three songs at a time


What? I've never found that. The samples are always good enough to let you know exactly what the song sounds like, in my experience at least.


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Sounds on Myspace are not as good as what you get on a CD. But it's definitely clear enough for you to listen to the song, at least to figure out how the song sounds etc. It's definitely no Mayhem's 'Pure Fuckin; Armageddon'.


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Zad wrote:
noodles wrote:
Adveser wrote:
what people do not consider about myspace is the quality is VERY low, half the sample rate and half the bitrate of a cd. That is not good enough to determine anything other than a rough idea of what the song sounds like

yeah thats one problem

my main problems are that knowing what a band sounds like doesn't help me decide how good they are at all and nearly any band can entertain me three songs at a time


What? I've never found that. The samples are always good enough to let you know exactly what the song sounds like, in my experience at least.


yeah but i can't tell if i actually like them or not from their myspace


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