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Author:  Rhys [ Wed May 06, 2009 2:03 am ]
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A poll!

Author:  noodles [ Wed May 06, 2009 2:52 am ]
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I don't think any single bands can invent a genre, it's usually more of a gradual trend or progression. Sabbath probably recorded the first full album/song that could be considered "heavy metal" though.

Author:  Thomas [ Wed May 06, 2009 2:54 am ]
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I want to mention Deep Purple bit voted yes.

Author:  cry of the banshee [ Wed May 06, 2009 2:55 am ]
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If any band can make that claim, it is Sabbath.

Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Wed May 06, 2009 3:37 am ]
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noodles wrote:
I don't think any single bands can invent a genre, it's usually more of a gradual trend or progression. Sabbath probably recorded the first full album/song that could be considered "heavy metal" though.


This.

Author:  Thy Serpent [ Wed May 06, 2009 5:57 am ]
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noodles wrote:
Sabbath probably recorded the first full album/song that could be considered "heavy metal" though.


That's why I voted yes. Sabbath just took what was there and got something new out of it. In a way, that's invention, no?

Author:  cry of the banshee [ Wed May 06, 2009 6:00 am ]
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Steppenwolf coined the phrase "heavy metal thunder", though...
it was a build up, beginning in the mid-late 60s, certainly, but Sabbath took it to a place hitherto untrod.

Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Wed May 06, 2009 6:37 am ]
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Musically: no not really

Lyrically: hells yes

Atmosphere: yep

I voted for: yes!

Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Wed May 06, 2009 7:03 am ]
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Of course they did. They're Black Sabbath. BLACK SABBATH.

Author:  rio [ Wed May 06, 2009 8:17 am ]
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noodles wrote:
I don't think any single bands can invent a genre, it's usually more of a gradual trend or progression. Sabbath probably recorded the first full album/song that could be considered "heavy metal" though.


I agree with this but voted yes anyway, for the reasons pointed out in your second paragraph.

Author:  ganeshaRules [ Wed May 06, 2009 8:22 am ]
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Really, it's a progression; before Black Sabbath were Led Zep, Iron Butterfly, Steppenwolf, Deep Purple, Helter Skelter (The beatles, yes, one the first real metal songs) and a lot more... But a catalyst was needed, and Black Sabbath was this catalyst. So yes, they invented Metal as a milestone in a logical musical evolution process.

Author:  Lucifer's Son [ Wed May 06, 2009 9:09 am ]
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cry of the banshee wrote:
If any band can make that claim, it is Sabbath.


+1

Though I think what we call Heavy Metal today is the brainchild of Judas Priest.

Author:  Goat [ Wed May 06, 2009 9:51 am ]
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Lucifer's Son wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
If any band can make that claim, it is Sabbath.


+1

Though I think what we call Heavy Metal today is the brainchild of Judas Priest.


Yes. Like the clever people have been saying, it's not down to just one band, but a few bands setting the stone rolling. Heck, you could just as easily give Led Zeppelin the honour, and I'm sure an argument could be made for Chuck Berry. Priest and Sabbath are the main reasons Metal is like it is, and all the other bands add flavour to the subgenres (I'm contractually obliged to mention Rush here).

Author:  MetalStorm [ Wed May 06, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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Elvis started metal you retards come on get your history corrected ok :rolleyes: :lol:

Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Wed May 06, 2009 6:58 pm ]
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Bullshit. It was Beethoven.

Author:  rio [ Wed May 06, 2009 7:36 pm ]
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I don't think Elvis started anything, let alone metal...

Author:  Satan's Anus [ Wed May 06, 2009 7:45 pm ]
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Sabbath brought it to the mainstream. They sure as hell weren't the first to play the style.

Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Wed May 06, 2009 8:08 pm ]
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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Bullshit. It was Beethoven.


Beethoven was a hardcore motherfucker. They say he shook his fist at the stormy sky the moment before he died. That's pretty badass.

Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Wed May 06, 2009 8:19 pm ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Bullshit. It was Beethoven.


Beethoven was a hardcore motherfucker. They say he shook his fist at the stormy sky the moment before he died. That's pretty badass.


When an aristocratic elderly woman got down on her knees and cried while begging him to play, Beethoven laughed at her and answered, "Composers do not cry! Composers are made of fire!"

Beethoven is my all-time favourite classical musician/composer, maybe even all-time favourite musical figure.

Author:  rio [ Wed May 06, 2009 10:42 pm ]
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Quote:
Prince, what you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am of myself. There are and there will be thousands of princes. There is only one Beethoven


Letter from LVB to Prince Karl Lichnowsky of Vienna :D

Cool guy.

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