People complain about groove metal because it was geared towards neanderthals.

People complain about groove metal because it was geared towards neanderthals.

Groove is an element of the sound that has been present since the genres inception, listening to any early Sabbath album will reveal this. It's not an element that murdered thrash nor is it worthy of all of the keyboard warriors that deride Pantera.

90% of Metal is geared towards neanderthals. After all it is a music whose main market is teenage males.

And since when is Cannibal Corpse or Darkthrone or Slayer thinking man music? Or even Iron Maiden which in 1980 was pretty extreme and again the bulk of the people attracted to it were young males?

I always found it hilarious that Metalheads regard listening to Metal as a sign of intelligence.

To make it even more ironic, most adult Metalheads I've met have been seriously lacking in that department - they usually have a high school level education at best, have massive drug and alcohol problems and work in poorly paid menial jobs or not at all. Not exactly smart.



Very good post!

Music is music. No music is intrinsically worthless.

However people get very elitist about musical scenes.

To make it even more ironic, most adult Metalheads I've met have been seriously lacking in that department - they usually have a high school level education at best, have massive drug and alcohol problems and work in poorly paid menial jobs or not at all. Not exactly smart.

90% of Metal is geared towards neanderthals. After all it is a music whose main market is teenage males.

And since when is Cannibal Corpse or Darkthrone or Slayer thinking man music? Or even Iron Maiden which in 1980 was pretty extreme and again the bulk of the people attracted to it were young males?

I always found it hilarious that Metalheads regard listening to Metal as a sign of intelligence.

To make it even more ironic, most adult Metalheads I've met have been seriously lacking in that department - they usually have a high school level education at best, have massive drug and alcohol problems and work in poorly paid menial jobs or not at all. Not exactly smart.

With subject matter about war, corruption, religion, inequality, literature, etc? Music is what you make it and metal provides quite an interesting amount of subject matter geared towards critical thinking unlike pop or generic rock music.

you read books, which I'm not sure of at this point, check out Robert Walser's Running with the Devil. Heavy metal is a vast bank open to analysis since it is so immersed in class and social relations.

Adult? Define adult. Right now I work at a grocery store and the third guy from the top went to the same Judas Priest show I went to two summers ago. My old store manager went to see Motley Crue twice every summer and went to the same 'tallica show I went to last winter. Metalheads are competent people. My friends at university all listen to metal and hardcore.

To make it even more ironic, most adult Metalheads I've met have been seriously lacking in that department - they usually have a high school level education at best, have massive drug and alcohol problems and work in poorly paid menial jobs or not at all. Not exactly smart.

Most Metal lyrics seems to be used just to match the music. Violent, dark music demands violent, dark lyrics.

Most of the bands sing about war, death etc because it fits the music and they don't sing about it any critical way.

The few that do usually espouse typical cliche left wing ideals etc that have been thrown about in music since the 1960's.



The only Metal band that actually had interesting morally and politically charged lyrics was Skyclad.

Furthermore Pantera and Machine Head have many songs about inequality, police corruption, ills of society pro-drug etc.

My own love of Heavy Metal is because I love the music and I find the juvenile nature of it appealing.




Heavy Metal is the music of mainly white, lower middle class males who are misfits and generally feel somewhat alienated. It's the same as Punk, Emo, Goth whatever.

There's not much social aspect to it other than that.



Adult - greater than 18 years old. Most of the guys I knew where 25+.

Besides I've got two degrees (Commerce - major in Finance and International Business and Arts - major in political science. I was on the Honour Roll 3 years out of 5).

I was probably the only guy in the local metal scene that had gone to university. Most of the others were unemployed while some worked in menial jobs ala shop assistants, kitchen hands in restaurants etc.

The only 2 guys that I knew that where into Metal music and who had done well in life actually did not associate with the scene in any way and didn't bother with heavy metal iconography. They were basically middle class people who liked Heavy Metal in whatever form.

Most Metalheads I knew referred to them as posers. Again the elitist nerd rage that dominates alienated subcultures comes to the fore.

You are so way off base it's not even funny. I mean where do you get your statistics from? Did you ever interview every metal listener in the world huh? Did you ever take surveys on who listens to metal or what demographic listens to them? Where's your statistical analysis coming from because what you have been saying is a bunch of bullshit.

The problem is that, after a while, just about every metal band was trying to copy those two bands in some way. Starting with Machine Head. And then Testament, Slipknot, Lamb Of God, etc.

So I'd say that average Australian metalhead is a social welfare dependant white Anglo-Saxon misfit with substance abuse issues or at best a white Anglo-Saxon lower blue collar worker.

The only Metal band that actually had interesting morally and politically charged lyrics was Skyclad.

Furthermore Pantera and Machine Head have many songs about inequality, police corruption, ills of society pro-drug etc.

Heavy Metal is the music of mainly white, lower middle class males who are misfits and generally feel somewhat alienated. It's the same as Punk, Emo, Goth whatever.

There's not much social aspect to it other than that.

To make it even more ironic, most adult Metalheads I've met have been seriously lacking in that department - they usually have a high school level education at best, have massive drug and alcohol problems and work in poorly paid menial jobs or not at all. Not exactly smart.