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Probably for lack of a real drummer. Those sound programmed. I have a kit that sounds exactly like that in FL Studio.

However a lot of American Deathcore sounds like shit to me with there giant bass drops and over processed drums. I just don't enjoy that sound and it doesn't sound real. It's frankly a tiring sound for me and I hope in the future metal goes back to a more natural sound.

huskerc7 wrote:

I was reading an interview with Jon Congleton, and he was saying that he thinks there will be a backlash against modern super clean production techniques. Kind of like how grunge was a reaction to the synthesizers and etc of the 80s. So in the end auto-tune and loudness war clipping and triggered drums will end up being the thing that dates music from the 2000s. I hope he's right.

I But a lot of modern productions sound annoying to me now which is one of the reasons I've gravitated towards black metal in the past couple of years. In majority of black metal everything still sounds natural.

huskerc7 wrote:

This is right but sadly most bm drumming blows.

Author:	noodles [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:23 am ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aLUiwgrVdc ugh Everything else is so awesome and then the drums sound like a farting robot :[ no good no good at all

Author:	huskerc7 [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:25 am ]
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yeah i hate drums that sound like that to. i've thought of the exact same thing you said to.

Author:	Kathaarian [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:33 am ]
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Probably for lack of a real drummer. Those sound programmed. I have a kit that sounds exactly like that in FL Studio.

Author:	Kathaarian [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:22 pm ]
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Very good song btw.

Author:	Bruce_Bitenfils [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:33 pm ]
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I don't mind the drums, the song is great.

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Author:	DevotedWalnut [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:11 pm ]
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Wow. I've heard much worse sounding drumming than that.

Author:	GeneralDiomedes [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:18 pm ]
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Dunno what I was expecting, but it wasn't that .. maybe I was expecting some programmed blast beats

Author:	Pillars of Geph [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:50 pm ]
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eh its the whole modern loudness war sound. Especially for that album the production sucked, combine that with the whole sterile overall sound expect the drums to sound like that.

Author:	Goat [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:56 pm ]
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Certainly heard worse drums than that. Good song.

Author:	noodles [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:00 am ]
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Kathaarian wrote: Probably for lack of a real drummer. Those sound programmed. I have a kit that sounds exactly like that in FL Studio. That's my problem. Metal drummers should sound like lunatic animals beating the shit out of their instruments, not something out of a computer program. I've probably heard worse drums too but these ones jumped out at me because a) it's not tech death, where this garbage is par for the course, and b) everything else was so awesome.

Author:	dead1 [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:30 am ]
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Good song. Thanks for the find. I agree on the drummers - I suspect it has something to do with either computer programming or most likely triggered drums whereby the real drum sound is converted into a preprogrammed one. It's one reason my favourite metal comes from pre-1995 when drums were real and most things were recorded on analogue systems. Kinda like everything in the 21st century - an obsession with sterile and completely over engineered things. EDIT: Triggers are especially used when drumming is fast. At those speeds it's difficult to hit the skins with any strength/velocity thereby resulting in a quiet drum sound and resulting in fluctuating volume levels. Triggers convert the sound into a steady sound That Satan's Host band is excellent for modern power metal. At times it's more like Thrash/Death with power metal vox.

Author:	huskerc7 [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:50 am ]
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I'm studying to be an Audio Engineer and over the past couple of years I've come to hate really processed sounding drums that sound like they've been covered in effects and eq'ed heavily. Obviously some albums, like Dimmu Borgir's Abrahadabra where the drums have been processed and Eq'ed sound great. But a lot of modern productions sound annoying to me now which is one of the reasons I've gravitated towards black metal in the past couple of years. In majority of black metal everything still sounds natural. Bands like Behexen of course will write killer riffs, maintain a sane production but still retain a raw quality and evil atmosphere. However great bands like the aforementioned Dimmu Borgir who have had really big productions also get great tones. However a lot of American Deathcore sounds like shit to me with there giant bass drops and over processed drums. I just don't enjoy that sound and it doesn't sound real. It's frankly a tiring sound for me and I hope in the future metal goes back to a more natural sound.

Author:	SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:56 am ]
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Well put, Husker.

Author:	bloodpet64 [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:05 am ]
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Define Infinity wrote: Well put, Husker. agreed.

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Author:	noodles [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:47 am ]
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huskerc7 wrote: However a lot of American Deathcore sounds like shit to me with there giant bass drops and over processed drums. I just don't enjoy that sound and it doesn't sound real. It's frankly a tiring sound for me and I hope in the future metal goes back to a more natural sound. I was reading an interview with Jon Congleton, and he was saying that he thinks there will be a backlash against modern super clean production techniques. Kind of like how grunge was a reaction to the synthesizers and etc of the 80s. So in the end auto-tune and loudness war clipping and triggered drums will end up being the thing that dates music from the 2000s. I hope he's right.

Author:	bloodpet64 [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:51 am ]
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noodles wrote: huskerc7 wrote: However a lot of American Deathcore sounds like shit to me with there giant bass drops and over processed drums. I just don't enjoy that sound and it doesn't sound real. It's frankly a tiring sound for me and I hope in the future metal goes back to a more natural sound. I was reading an interview with Jon Congleton, and he was saying that he thinks there will be a backlash against modern super clean production techniques. Kind of like how grunge was a reaction to the synthesizers and etc of the 80s. So in the end auto-tune and loudness war clipping and triggered drums will end up being the thing that dates music from the 2000s. I hope he's right. me too, i really dont like all this new core shit. But there are some exceptions of course.

Author:	B.Breeg [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:00 am ]
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I like how the drums sound on that track as well as it definitely gives it more of an analogue sound to the recording. The worst drum tones I can immediately think of are the drum recordings on Cradle of Filth's 'Cruelty and the Beast' and Metallica's '...And Justice For All'. That Satan's Host album is good btw.

Author:	traptunderice [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:54 pm ]
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huskerc7 wrote: I But a lot of modern productions sound annoying to me now which is one of the reasons I've gravitated towards black metal in the past couple of years. In majority of black metal everything still sounds natural. This is right but sadly most bm drumming blows.

Author:	Radical Cut [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:00 am ]
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traptunderice wrote: huskerc7 wrote: I But a lot of modern productions sound annoying to me now which is one of the reasons I've gravitated towards black metal in the past couple of years. In majority of black metal everything still sounds natural. This is right but sadly most bm drumming blows. What black metal are you listening to? Guys such as Carl Michael Eide, Hellhammer, Faust, Proscriptor, etc. have few peers in any genre. Or listen to some Nyktalgia, Austere, Kailash, or the Ruins of Beverast for something more modern. The drummers in those bands are insanely gifted, and their playing fits the songs rather than being mind-numbing blasturbation. On topic, this album does feature supremely mechanical sounding drums. I don't really believe metal archives when it lists a drummer in the lineup for the record. Still, it's a fairly awesome album.

Author:	Sangre [ Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:21 am ]
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I'm not fond of the modern style of production and often it's the drum sound that bothers me most. I don't really care if triggers are used, but I will never like the sound of clicky or plastic sounding drums.