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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:35 pm ] |
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So, name your top 10 to 15 drummers. Drummers of any kind. |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:57 pm ] |
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Neil Peart Cozy Powell Aquiles Priester Larz (He is tasteful) Drummers are something for me that if it is noticeable it's remarkable. If it's not, it's excellent and and if it sucks, then it sucks. I like all the drummers very much that play on all the albums I listen to. But I gotta say, they are interchangable because everyone is so good. |
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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:20 am ] |
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Unorthodox structure is what makes a drummer stand out. |
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| Author: | Metastable To Chaos [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:38 am ] |
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Danny Carey Tomas Haake |
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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:52 am ] |
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Metastable To Chaos wrote: Danny Carey
Tomas Haake Excellent choices. |
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| Author: | huskerc7 [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:50 am ] |
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Danny Carey Hellhammer Nicholas Barker Adrian Erlandson Mike Portnoy Mike Mangini Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Frost Horgh Jon Theodore (the mars volta) Chris Adler Trym Proscriptor |
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| Author: | Cú Chulainn [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:30 am ] |
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Ringo Starr is incredibly underappreciated as a drummer. Seriously. This guy came up with the idea of using an anvil, and back in the 60s. |
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| Author: | grandbazaar [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:15 pm ] |
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Gavin Harrison - Porcupine Tree Jeff Burrows - The Tea Party |
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| Author: | noodles [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:44 pm ] |
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Rob (Jon? I get them mixed up.) Wright from Nomeansno. Perfect mix of skill and energy. He plays basic punk beats and he plays crazy impressive stuff, and he makes both sound super easy and fun. Max Roach. He probably sounded good when he first tapped a snare drum as a little kid. Guy from Akimbo. He's got the energy that all rock/metal/punk drummers should have. Hits things hard. Guy from Colour Haze. Very elegant and subtle for a rock drummer. It works. Guy from Canvas Solaris. Creative stuff that makes them sound more thoughtful than most tech metal bands. Cloudkicker. Makes a drum machine sound very natural and energetic. Both guys from These Arms Are Snakes. I like them because there's a noticeable difference between their styles. Oxeneers was dancy and almost peppy, then on Easter and Tail Swallower the change of drummer makes them sound darker and moodier. Second Jon Theodore. I think he'd have fit better on Octahedron and the new TMV than the other guy and Deantoni. Guy from Reverend Bizarre. Their slow, repetitive riffs are dangerously close to being monotonous, but I think he's responsible for making them rockin' and fun. Chris Pennie from DEP. Just listen to Calculating Infinity and Miss Machine! I especially missed him after hearing guy on Option Paralysis :( Jeff Eber from Dysrhythmia/Zevious. Groovy. |
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| Author: | MetalStorm [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:22 am ] |
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Uli Kusch Casey Grillo John Bonham Jukka Nevalainen |
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| Author: | falconpaawnch [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:26 am ] |
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Dave Lombardo Sean Reinhart Danny Carey Hellhammer Gene Hoglan Brian Downey All of these drummers have such great ability. |
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| Author: | The Annoying Frenchman [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:02 pm ] |
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- Ringo Starr - Mick Avory - Ginger Baker - Elvin Jones - Buddy Rich - Joey Baron - Bill Bruford - Tony Williams - John Bonham - Neil Peart Most metal drummers are overrated. |
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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:52 pm ] |
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The Annoying Frenchman wrote: Most metal drummers are overrated.
EDIT: Buddy Rich Joey Baron Neil Peart These three are the ones I agree with. However, in terms of technicality and speed, many, many metal drummers can keep up with these three. Not to mention what a generalization your statement is to begin with and thus not valid in any sense of the word. Yeah, these three got "famous" and thus you see them as untouchable or unquestionable. |
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| Author: | noodles [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:38 pm ] |
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idk I think Buddy Rich is basically unfuckwithable when it comes to drumming so I'd feel pretty safe saying he's way better than any metal drummer. |
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| Author: | North From Here [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:01 pm ] |
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Saw the track this thread would take a mile away. |
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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:07 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: idk I think Buddy Rich is basically unfuckwithable when it comes to drumming so I'd feel pretty safe saying he's way better than any metal drummer.
I think not. Sure his got speed, technicality and stamina; but doesn't that sound all too familiar to you when it comes to advanced metal drummers? The psychological state-of-mind of someone that believes Rich is a legend and untouchable stops him to believe that yes, there will be more people like him like in the metal business! I will always have a hard time believing Rich is a legend when you have people like Proscripter, Trym, Hellhammer, Hoglan, DsO's drummer, Xul, Asgeir Mickelson, Tomas Haake, Martin Lopez, Hunter Ginn, Steve Flynn and so many other phenomenal drummers in the Metal world that are beyond words. It would be rather illogical to consider Rich as God when there are so many gods of all kinds. You study Philosophy; every aspect of a philosophical statement might be an angle of reality itself but that particular statement coming from anyone cannot contain the whole of reality as absolute. |
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| Author: | noodles [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:43 pm ] |
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Not really an expert but it still sounds to me like Rich is in a different league from those guys. Like, from talking to people at the music school here, I get the impression that the rhythms that make Meshuggah riffs sound so cool are pretty standard for jazz musicians |
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| Author: | Pillars of Geph [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:53 pm ] |
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Incubus, Mike Smith, Alex Marquez, David Gray, Doc, Proscriptor, Flo Mounier, Ventor, Steve Asheim |
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| Author: | SilkCrimsonMoon [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:19 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: Not really an expert but it still sounds to me like Rich is in a different league from those guys. Like, from talking to people at the music school here, I get the impression that the rhythms that make Meshuggah riffs sound so cool are pretty standard for jazz musicians
Right. The factors that make an outstanding drummer is unorthodox rhythm, extreme intricacy, and the power that which the drummer hits the drums. I think all these factors exist both in metal and jazz. So I suppose saying that one is better than another would be foolish and outplace and thus immature. George Kollias, Marco Minneman, are two that immediately come to mind as anything as technically advanced as jazz drummers. Let's put it this way: The technicality of the guitar playing necessitates the portion of extreme intricacy in terms of filling and cymbals. Now, jazz can sometimes get extremely complex but all I'm saying is that a metal guitarist can easily get as extremely technical as a jazz guitarist as well. Jazz and metal musicians are most definitely alongside with Classical the most accomplished musicians in terms of virtuosity. As with any kind of drumming the playing vastly differ from simplicity to advanced technicality. Remember, the existence of the possibility and impossibility of what a drummer can accomplish. Both a jazz drummer and a metal drummer in their advanced levels have borders lines to cross and innovate. So saying that the rhythmic patterns of Meshuggah are the basics of jazz drumming is a little too bit an outplace statement and invalid from many perspectives. Keep in mind "blast-beats" came from Jazz. |
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| Author: | The Annoying Frenchman [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:28 am ] |
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Technical skills are not everything when it comes to art. They merely are the ammunitions that a musician uses while doing his job. Many metal drummers have the chops but lack that little something that makes a perfectly trained musician into a unique instrumentalist. That little something could be called spirit or personality but is mainly impossible to pin point... Talent works, too. You dared select three off my list (the easiest choices, may I add) and left the others aside. Why? Do you know what Mr. Bruford's capable of? Have you heard the Kinks? What makes Cream so unique a band? I was sure, when writing my little closing comment about metal drummers being overrated, that someone would react just as you did. I'm not surprised. Not amused either. |
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