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 Post subject: A song that NO ONE dislikes?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:39 pm 
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So I was thinking ... what song do you think almost everybody between 8 and 80, from metal fans to rap fans to pop fans, from all over the world like? Or at least no one dislikes?

I'm thinking SULTANS OF SWING from Dire Straits. I mean, I couln't find a Sultans Of Swing hater in my life so far. Even My gandpa likes it.

So ... what other songs can you think of?

PS.: Frige, I know you're gonna say Fullmoon! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:52 pm 
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Sultan Of Swing sucks, Brothers In Arms was really nice though.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:55 pm 
I think no one could possibly dislike Killing Moon by Echo & the Bunnymen.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:14 pm 
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"Fur Elise" gets my vote.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:19 pm 
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or maybe , Bohemian Rhapsody? I have never met some one who said the disliked it.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:22 pm 
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Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:
"Fur Elise" gets my vote.

Bah!
Trois Gymnopedies by Erik Satie?

This is pointless anyways.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:33 pm 
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Impossible!

Says I

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Sultan Of Swing sucks


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kakaman wrote:
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Sultan Of Swing sucks


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Common! It's a catchy popsong! It was nothing new under the sun.


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I think I will go listen to some alternatively alternative extreme rare music which existence is even controversial, to see a new perspective. :)


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kakaman wrote:
I think I will go listen to some alternatively alternative extreme rare music which existence is even controversial, to see a new perspective. :)

Highly recommended!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:20 am 
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But I would not call sultans of swing a meant to be pop song. A pop song I see as something that sells. The song became a hit, ok. But in a time of mainstream punk and disco (1979 +-) this kind of music wasnt made to be a pop song. What "pop" means is highly dynamic. In perspective of a mainstream audience I would not have called the Dire Straits and this song in 1979 "pop". This song eventually became mainstream and, yes, has been called pop afterwards.

For me a pop song needs the intention of a band to make a mainstream song, the "going with the flow" attitude like typical song structures, ideas of the mainstream pop songs of the time and the money offcourse.

It all depends of the audience that hears the music. In your perspective allmost anything must be mainstream? :)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:32 am 
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kakaman wrote:
But I would not call sultans of swing a meant to be pop song. A pop song I see as something that sells. The song became a hit, ok. But in a time of mainstream punk and disco (1979 +-) this kind of music wasnt made to be a pop song. What "pop" means is highly dynamic. In perspective of a mainstream audience I would not have called the Dire Straits and this song in 1979 "pop". This song eventually became mainstream and, yes, has been called pop afterwards.

For me a pop song needs the intention of a band to make a mainstream song, the "going with the flow" attitude like typical song structures, ideas of the mainstream pop songs of the time and the money offcourse.

It all depends of the audience that hears the music. In your perspective allmost anything must be mainstream? :)

A popsong does not need the intention to go with the flow, most popsongs are rather original timbre wise, or have an original hook. It's irrelevant if this is a pop song or not, the point is that is of no musical significance. I talk as the largest feet, I step on everyone's toes at once.


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Pop actually comes from the word "popular" by the way, if it's popular (which it was, cause it was a hit) then it means it's pop.


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Ok, so what is for you the difference between pop and other songs? Is it one factor defined as musical significance?

So if I get this straight you said it isnt the intention to go with the flow, originality that differentiates pop with other songs? I see originality very broad, also song structures etc. etc.

But one thing of your reasoning I dont understand. How can something be of musical significance if it isnt original and does not have an impact on music because of its originality? I dont think that music that is unoriginal music of huge musical significancy?

Can you hold your difference between pop songs and other songs?

Maybe I define terms differently as you do :)

EDIT: yes it became pop, I do not discuss that. But like I said pop is made by human and as an effect the persons who make that music and their intentions are also relevant.


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kakaman wrote:
Ok, so what is for you the difference between pop and other songs? Is it one factor defined as musical significance?

No, musical significance has nothing to do with it. I said this song (Sultans Of Swing) is of no musical significance.
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So if I get this straight you said it isnt the intention to go with the flow, originality that differentiates pop with other songs? I see originality very broad, also song structures etc. etc.

No, I didn't say that, I just said that pop does not necessarily have to be unoriginal. You presume that by making a statement about pop, I make the oposite statement about songs that are not pop.
kakaman wrote:
But one thing of your reasoning I dont understand. How can something be of musical significance if it isnt original and has not an impact on music because of its originality? I dont think that music that is unoriginal music of huge musical significancy?

Can you hold your difference between pop songs and other songs?

Maybe I define terms differently as you do :)

I think you understand where I'm coming from now, having pointed out what you misunderstood.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:57 am 
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Your "musical significance" does relate with your idea about pop and non pop. And yes, all songs that are meant to be pop and became pop are not original...

I forgot to read the "does not need" part of your sentence... :rolleyes:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:57 am 
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Perhaps Misha meant it follows the verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus structure favoured by pop songs? All I can remember is the chorus right now so I'm not really sure :P

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btw Noodles i hate that song :P


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