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I have never really given Megadeth a fair chance since I'm not usually into Thrash that much. What grabbed my attention here was the sweet looking album art and all the positive comments.

So, when I say I'm into Power/Heavy/Prog/True/Melodic metal genres and I'm not that familiar with Trash (except for early Metallica), what would be the perfect album for me to start with?


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Death Magnetic is a mish-mash of great ideas. I find myself constantly being jolted from my enjoyment of that album because of dynamic shifts that seem so unnatural. The band had tons of great ideas, but instead of jamming out great songs, they simply used Pro Tools to cut and paste all those ideas into something that could pass as a song. It's fucking lazy songwriting.

It works, sure, but it's not that great. Hardly any of the transitions are smooth; they're abrupt and awkward. A solid album, really good even, but nothing like Endgame, which is a smooth and concise album; everything feels right. It's a collection of real songs, written as whole works of art.

Death Magnetic is good. Endgame is great.

"You know how I know you're gay?" You think endgame is a work of art.

The transitions are smooth? Maybe thats because the whole thing blurs in together with its sameness. I like to refer to that as "boring"

I also get tired of turning everything Megadave does into a "VS METALLICA " argument. Metallica don't give a toss about Megadeth. The fact that Mustaine and his fans are still pre-occupied with trying to prove something to Metallica is just sad. Sad to the point of crying about it like Dave is too ashamed to admit he did on "Some Kind Of Monster"

For the record I think Endgame is instrumentally impressive. But I wouldn't call it a great album. I don't think more than 3 or 4 of the songs are at all memorable. Death Magnetic is irrelevant, this is United Abominations part 2, with a bit more wank and fewer hooks.

Listen here, fagporn. I only brought up Death Magnetic because someone asked. I've always said comparing the two bands is stupid.

Either way, I do think this album is great. Surely not a classic by any means, but I've listened to it countless times already and it's only gotten better.


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So, is it your opinion that it is just my opinion? Because I disagree. In my opinion, my opinion is more than just my opinion. But thats just my opinion.

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AngelRipper16 wrote:
I have never really given Megadeth a fair chance since I'm not usually into Thrash that much. What grabbed my attention here was the sweet looking album art and all the positive comments.

So, when I say I'm into Power/Heavy/Prog/True/Melodic metal genres and I'm not that familiar with Trash (except for early Metallica), what would be the perfect album for me to start with?


there are severeal threads on this site and others stating which are the better 'Deth albums and which are the ones to avoid. But, i'll give you my list:

Killing is My Buisness...And Buisness is Good
Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
So Far... So Good... So What!
Rust in Peace
Countdown to Extinction
Youthanasia
Cryptic Writings
Risk
The World Needs A Hero
The System Has Failed
United Abominations
Endgame

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Hidden Treasures


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AngelRipper16 wrote:
I have never really given Megadeth a fair chance since I'm not usually into Thrash that much. What grabbed my attention here was the sweet looking album art and all the positive comments.

So, when I say I'm into Power/Heavy/Prog/True/Melodic metal genres and I'm not that familiar with Trash (except for early Metallica), what would be the perfect album for me to start with?


My suggestion is that fisrt you listen some songs of every record in youtube, to see which fits better your tastes.


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Yes, the lyrics in Endgame sound insane, but they should be because we live in an insane world! Glenn Beck is just a governnment shill, but Alex Jones is the real deal and Dave Mustaine has been on his radioshow various times. The album title was influenced by Alex Jones latest movie that was also called Endgame and the lyrics were largely based around that album. The full movie can be seen at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM6US0Qk5_8

There is also a new movie, released yesterday, called Camp Fema by William Lewis that is even featuring Constiution Party's presidential candidate who Chuck Baldwin was third in the race (beating bob barr and ralph nader) who confims that these camps are real. However, the evidence speak for themselves and if you stop sucking your thumbs and start thinking for yourself you find out this is real :(

Remember that US already had concentration camps in the 40s where they put all citizens that had more than 1/6 japanese blood in them! Most German and Austrian citiziens claim they did not know about the camps before the end of the war! What makes you think that goverment would let you know this times about these camps? Because Fox News is fair and balanced? =D The media is totally government controlled in the US and its sad that government rejected Al Jazeera to broadcast in the US even though they were on par with the requirements and had the financial side in order. No No No, you MUST only remember those 2900 poor souls who lost their life when "terrorists" attacked WTC, but shall not remember those 1,6 dead iraqies who died as a consequence of the "war on terror". You shall not remember that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and there were NO weapons of massdestructions! Why does NO media ever report of this even though this should be the biggest news story each day??? Americans should be OUTRAGEOUS of this idiotic war that costs you each day hundreds of millions of dollars and causes an incredible death toll and misery in the middle east! You think you are living in a free country? Think again!


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isn't that last paragraph the lyrics to Washington is Next?


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But Megadave is a conservative!

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Good review there Zadster, though I would probably rate it around 80-85.


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Hasn't Alex Jones been conclusively proved to be a flaming nutjob? He thinks Koresh was assassinated and that they sacrifice children in the Bohemian Grove, ffs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

Anyone that rattles on about how the Bilderberg group are controlling the world, that climate change is a lie, or that 9/11 was an inside job, gets my middle finger. And this nut who believes all three, heh, as opposed as I am to the Iraq war I certainly don't follow Jones.

And Endgame is a killer album.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
But Megadave is a conservative!


I dunno about that, I think he's yanking a few chains, personally. I know he used to be mates with Bill Clinton and his early lyrics are anything but. Maybe he's done a 180, but I prefer to thin he's taking the piss.

As for the album; yeah, really good. Good review. Personally, I hate to say it but however good I can tell new Megadeth is, there's just something about it that doesn't make me go :dio: as much as some other bands. I don't quite know why, and it's a shame because it's clearly a really good album. Maybe it needs more listens.


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He's become a fundamentalist Xtian, and d'you remember the letter he wrote back to the UN dude who complained about his anti-UN lyrics?

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Haha, oh yeah. Crazy ol' Dave.


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Good review, good album. Definitely album of the year so far.


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AngelRipper16 wrote:
I have never really given Megadeth a fair chance since I'm not usually into Thrash that much. What grabbed my attention here was the sweet looking album art and all the positive comments.

So, when I say I'm into Power/Heavy/Prog/True/Melodic metal genres and I'm not that familiar with Trash (except for early Metallica), what would be the perfect album for me to start with?


I'd say Rust In Peace is a good start. Probably the most universally liked Megadeth album among metal heads. It's what got me into the band as well. Real good blend of thrash and melody.


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Fatpom wrote:
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So, is it your opinion that it is just my opinion? Because I disagree. In my opinion, my opinion is more than just my opinion. But thats just my opinion.


Post of the year.


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If Dave were a fundamentalist Christian, I don't think he'd even be playing metal anymore.

As for KIMB and SFSGSW, I'll make a confession: I've avoided those two albums, because most people consider them to be among Megadeth's weakest. KIMB is considered by many to be a directionless mess, and SFSGSW is considered to be a drug-induced hodgepodge of clashing ideas and inner-band turmoil.

Although, to be fair, it seems the KIMB remaster has improved the album's reputation considerably.


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AngelRipper16 wrote:
I have never really given Megadeth a fair chance since I'm not usually into Thrash that much. What grabbed my attention here was the sweet looking album art and all the positive comments.

So, when I say I'm into Power/Heavy/Prog/True/Melodic metal genres and I'm not that familiar with Trash (except for early Metallica), what would be the perfect album for me to start with?


I'd say Rust In Peace is a good start. Probably the most universally liked Megadeth album among metal heads. It's what got me into the band as well. Real good blend of thrash and melody.


I'd say Countdown To Extinction is probably the best album to start with, since it's arguably Megadeth's most popular.


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If Dave were a fundamentalist Christian, I don't think he'd even be playing metal anymore.

As for KIMB and SFSGSW, I'll make a confession: I've avoided those two albums, because most people consider them to be among Megadeth's weakest. KIMB is considered by many to be a directionless mess, and SFSGSW is considered to be a drug-induced hodgepodge of clashing ideas and inner-band turmoil.

Although, to be fair, it seems the KIMB remaster has improved the album's reputation considerably.


KIMB weak and directionless? The people who say that need to intercourse (read: fuck) themselves. Listen to it (the remaster of course) and you'll find it to be the most ferocious Megadeth album by a mile. I mean come on, you like Peace Sells, its a sure thing.

SFSGSW does have the uber-shitty Sex Pistols cover, but it doesn't deserve the flak it gets. Its really good actually. Once again, you like Peace Sells, so...


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