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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:24 pm 
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They did already take that same route on Anthems, they don't reroute to remain, but to make more money. It's actually quite logical that this happens to a lot of melodeath bands, because most of them have no idea about what metal is anyways, and their fanbase has an astronemous poser-percentage...


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Cody@MetalReviews.com wrote:
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I think that this album much better than Anthems Of Rebellion and Saying this album is the most accessible is a bit misleading considering there is no way in hell you are going to here this on your local metal station (well at least not IN MY CONTRY) and it certainly isn't going to get heavy rotation on MTV. Did CODY like Anthems Of Rebellion?


Just to clarify, I didn't personally say that the band's sound was evolving as a way to become more accessible, merely that alot of critics are voicing their opinions about that. From my personal view, I really love Arch Enemy, and with the road Soilwork and In Flames have taken in recent years, its making me nervous seeing Arch Enemy follow suit with simpler songs and slick production values (I sincerely hope they do not end up taking the same route). As for Anthems, it was weaker than their previous albums, but I did quite enjoy that record.


I really love Arch Enemy too imo BLACK EARTH AND BURNING BRIDGES ARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE ALBUMS OF ALL TIME


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They did already take that same route on Anthems, they don't reroute to remain, but to make more money. It's actually quite logical that this happens to a lot of melodeath bands, because most of them have no idea about what metal is anyways, and their fanbase has an astronemous poser-percentage...


SOOO THE Amott bros have no idea what metal is :?:


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They do, or did, but as I said, they are misguided by their fans. They think this is what metal has evolved into, and play allong with its commercial potence.


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I'd still think Doomsday is better than Anthems.. at least it has better melodies, less prominent keyboards... the guitar hooks ar better too...

On another subject concerning Amott, Micheal dat is... umm are you reviewers gonna review Spiritual Beggars: Demons? Its fucking solid...hah


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Heard a track from this last night and mistook it for shitcore. What have they done?!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:12 pm 
Quick review:

Genre: Melodeath/metalcore

First off, melodeath is one of my favorite genres as you all know, and I like metalcore as well. But this is just crap. Absolute crap.

The musicianship is OK--the highest point of the album. The songwriting is incredibly lame and the songs are very boring. In short, the albums sound like In Flames meets generic metalcore, then slowed down a bit. Their previous sound was MUCH better.

The vocals are bad. No one wants to admit it though because it's a girl. Who fucking cares? She's not very good. There is no passion in these vocals. Sure, they're evil sounding, but where's the emotion (compare these vocals to Tomas' from At The Gates).

The production is good I suppose, but that won't save bad music from being bad music.

Overall, an embarrassment to melodeath.

Trevor: 40/100


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:14 pm 
Gast1 wrote:
They did already take that same route on Anthems, they don't reroute to remain, but to make more money. It's actually quite logical that this happens to a lot of melodeath bands, because most of them have no idea about what metal is anyways, and their fanbase has an astronemous poser-percentage...


I actually thought Reroute to Remain was a good and original album. Soundtrack to Your Escape was awful.


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I wouldn't say r2r was good, it was ok, but the worst IF album other than Soundtrack which just sucked, alot.

Just wondering if it's actually worth buying Doomsday Machine, the only Arch enemy album I actually bothered to buy was Wages of Sin, I love that album, heard a few songs from Anthems, but due to the reviews I've heard about it, never bothered to buy it, this album is gonna get to australia in the next week or so, just trying to work out if it's worth getting


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I wouldn't say r2r was good, it was ok, but the worst IF album other than Soundtrack which just sucked, alot.

Just wondering if it's actually worth buying Doomsday Machine, the only Arch enemy album I actually bothered to buy was Wages of Sin, I love that album, heard a few songs from Anthems, but due to the reviews I've heard about it, never bothered to buy it, this album is gonna get to australia in the next week or so, just trying to work out if it's worth getting


I would really suggest downloading the album or listening to some samples to decide. This album is really down the middle for alot of people. Some think its an improvement, and some think its their worst. Its really hard to give you a suggestion.


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The vocals are bad. No one wants to admit it though because it's a girl. Who fucking cares? She's not very good. There is no passion in these vocals. Sure, they're evil sounding, but where's the emotion (compare these vocals to Tomas' from At The Gates).

Hah, that's the same thing I've been saying man. People go apeshit over the fact that a girl is trying to growl without really bothering to notice that she just isn't any good. She might sound impressive if you're just getting into extreme metal, which of course is the case with a lot of melodeath bands, they introduce people to more extreme music, but once you break through that barrier of familiarity she is pretty lame.

And I still say R2R was a good album, STYE wasn't because it didn't have the songs to back it up and Anders went way too far with his vocals (though I can't say I didn't like a few of the guitar parts despite the album's lesser qualities), but on R2R I really think they managed to put together a good album despite moving away from their storied past, and I still enjoy it.


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Jaden wrote:
I actually thought Reroute to Remain was a good and original album. Soundtrack to Your Escape was awful.


Totally agreed.


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Clayman wrote:
I wouldn't say r2r was good, it was ok, but the worst IF album other than Soundtrack which just sucked, alot.

Just wondering if it's actually worth buying Doomsday Machine, the only Arch enemy album I actually bothered to buy was Wages of Sin, I love that album, heard a few songs from Anthems, but due to the reviews I've heard about it, never bothered to buy it, this album is gonna get to australia in the next week or so, just trying to work out if it's worth getting

I think they lost it at Clayman, which was a very pop-based and unmetal album. On second thought, they were never that good actually...


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Gast1 wrote:
Clayman wrote:
I wouldn't say r2r was good, it was ok, but the worst IF album other than Soundtrack which just sucked, alot.

Just wondering if it's actually worth buying Doomsday Machine, the only Arch enemy album I actually bothered to buy was Wages of Sin, I love that album, heard a few songs from Anthems, but due to the reviews I've heard about it, never bothered to buy it, this album is gonna get to australia in the next week or so, just trying to work out if it's worth getting

I think they lost it at Clayman, which was a very pop-based and unmetal album. On second thought, they were never that good actually...


I thought that Clayman was one of their best. It's catchy and really energetic. Bullet Ride is easily one of the best Melodeath songs I've heard.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:27 pm 
This album is incredible. I can't believe people are bashing it the way they are! I've listened to it a lot in the last two weeks and I'm blown away each time. The melodic leads are back. Remember those? This album is chocked full of them. The band seems to be clicking in synch again. I don't see any hardcore influences either. Gossow turns in her best performance yet on vocals. She can finally hold a candle to Liiva. The drums absolutley smoke too! I can't stop saying awesome things about this one.


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I thought that Clayman was one of their best. It's catchy and really energetic. Bullet Ride is easily one of the best Melodeath songs I've heard.


Bullet Ride is great, but the rest of the album is pap.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
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Clayman wrote:
I wouldn't say r2r was good, it was ok, but the worst IF album other than Soundtrack which just sucked, alot.

Just wondering if it's actually worth buying Doomsday Machine, the only Arch enemy album I actually bothered to buy was Wages of Sin, I love that album, heard a few songs from Anthems, but due to the reviews I've heard about it, never bothered to buy it, this album is gonna get to australia in the next week or so, just trying to work out if it's worth getting

I think they lost it at Clayman, which was a very pop-based and unmetal album. On second thought, they were never that good actually...


I thought that Clayman was one of their best. It's catchy and really energetic. Bullet Ride is easily one of the best Melodeath songs I've heard.


Agreed, bullet ride is also my fav song, although I love Satellites and Astronauts for a bit of a change of pase, and Another Day in Quicksand is great too, while it may not be their most technically perfect album, it is, in my opinion, by far their catchiest, and in a good way, not in a Good Charlotte type of catchyness.


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This album is incredible. I can't believe people are bashing it the way they are! I've listened to it a lot in the last two weeks and I'm blown away each time. [....] Gossow turns in her best performance yet on vocals. She can finally hold a candle to Liiva. The drums absolutley smoke too! I can't stop saying awesome things about this one.


I agree with Jay on this one. I just got it yesterday and have only listened to it a couple of times. But I think this album rocks. Personally, I think it takes a dump from the top floor on any of the garbage In Flames has ever put out. To me, this album is more aggressive and less pop/melodic, which I like. And the vocals are great, IMHO -- if it wasn't for the fact that Angela is a woman, nobody would make a big deal about it.

If you like it aggressive and rocking, this album is a good one. If you want wimpy pop crap, go back to your In Flames, Soilwork, Darkest Hour, and what have you. Arch Enemy is to In Flames as Nevermore is to Great White...


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milkbaby wrote:
Jay@MetalReviews wrote:
This album is incredible. I can't believe people are bashing it the way they are! I've listened to it a lot in the last two weeks and I'm blown away each time. [....] Gossow turns in her best performance yet on vocals. She can finally hold a candle to Liiva. The drums absolutley smoke too! I can't stop saying awesome things about this one.


I agree with Jay on this one. I just got it yesterday and have only listened to it a couple of times. But I think this album rocks. Personally, I think it takes a dump from the top floor on any of the garbage In Flames has ever put out. To me, this album is more aggressive and less pop/melodic, which I like. And the vocals are great, IMHO -- if it wasn't for the fact that Angela is a woman, nobody would make a big deal about it.

If you like it aggressive and rocking, this album is a good one. If you want wimpy pop crap, go back to your In Flames, Soilwork, Darkest Hour, and what have you. Arch Enemy is to In Flames as Nevermore is to Great White...


There is nothing wrong with loving BOTH the bands though... is there?

Also, I disagree that it's just cause she is a chick (and a good looking one at that :wink: ) that we all love Angela, I think her vocals kick the shit out of most other melo-death vocalists, which i spose isn't saying alot due to the crap alot of melo-death bands have been releasing of late, but still, i love her vocals.

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And the vocals are great, IMHO -- if it wasn't for the fact that Angela is a woman, nobody would make a big deal about it.


That may be the case for some, but her vocals just aren't good or impressive in the slightest in my case.

That having been said, this album is boring, and I am rather glad that I never bought it. I think I'll go listen to The Black Dahlia Murder now, because I want to listen to melodeath.


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