Metal Reviews

I'm with you man, I'm glad they sound nothing like Converge.

well, Converge is not that bad... and they're awesome live too... :roll:

as for Sikth, I hear some Mr Bungle, some DEP obviously but a little Incubus too and since I like all these bands, it's really a compliment...

but I'm expecting their second album to give us something different and, hopefully, something.... GOOOOOOOOOOD !!!!!! :mrgreen:

So Sikth are better than Converge are they? Well let's just give it a few years and then see how many new bands are being hailed as "the new Sikth".

Except for the fact metal has never been a popularity contest, so this is irrelevant.

The point I'm trying to get at is Sikth won't be remembered. Whether a band is popular or not, good, innovative music isn't forgotten quickly. And throwing a bunch of styles into a pot and giving it the slick mainstream sheen doesn't count as innovation.

They will be remembered if people go out and buy them.

what the fuck do you know about it ?

would anyone had predicted Converge would be remembered (as influencial I think you imply) after a sole recording ? very few bands can hit the people's subconcious (that's what it's all about) with only one album under their belt... not lately anyways... since the early 80's too many bands release too many albums each year for the crowds to recognize quality out of hype...

so, as your saying was irrelevant, would you cut the crap, please ? :roll:

So the points have basically been made already, but yeah. Converge are still awful, and if you ask me if any band of their ilk will leave any sort of impression it's DEP, with the others being noticeably behind. But we can't really know that, especially since Sikth in particular have an entire career ahead of them yet, and have obviously gained some recognition from critics and people in the underground for their debut (and continue to).

Heard them yet?

They don't sound anything like DEP or any of those listed bands. They're their own thing.

They haven't got an entire career ahead of them though. I'd be surprised if they make one more album. Trust me I've known about them from the start, and I heard their first ever EP's when they came out (which you sould probably check out cuz they have the same songs as the album but they're rougher and shorter versions). They got pretty average reviews when the album came out (Terrorizer magazine, my fave metal mag and the most respected, gave the album 6.5/10, even the easy-to-please Kerrang magazine only gave it 3 out of 5). Then a few months after the album came out they stopped touring and supporting every single band that came to our shores and just vanished off the face of the earth.

What I'm saying is it doesn't look good for them. They were killed by hype. And I just find it really odd that they're now being talked about all over again in the metal underground, especially when they really weren't that good in the first place.

I think you're wrong


source : www.sikth.com/ on the biography

and since they're still playing a few gigs I think you can do nothing but shut up....

I have full confidence in these guys.

I doubt they'll quit so early because they play the sort of songs that want to get written; listen to the amount of energy and ability they pour into each song - especially the section after the first chorus in "Scent of the Obscene" which is something that has basically never been done before, and ask yourselves how dedicated you think they are to their music?

Especially as they write songs that aren't easy to reproduce live - that's always a good sign to me because it suggests they want to keep on challenging themselves. Fuck the magazines that won't support them with good reviews, who demand minimalism and a safe bet, because they don't need that type of support anyway.

As for the "popularity = how good you are" shite you keep spouting, xyxyxma, I think I'll let it stand alone in all its stupidity.

'especially the section after the first chorus in "Scent of the Obscene" '

Oh yeah right before it goes into the Taking Back Sunday-esque chorus.

let's hear it for reading comprehension

Hahaha yeah I just realised that. Man, I give up, we'll just have to wait and see where Sikth go.

Well, they did just get signed to a major stateside label and are just finishing up recording their new album at the moment. That must mean something...

Not to mention that every musically intelligent person I've shown this band to has loved them. I know that I personally have spread Sikth off to many people.

And you just sited two reviews (by shitty metal magazines that probably list Korn as one of the greatest metal acts of all time). I've looked up reviews on the band, and while there are some ignorant ones, I've seen a lot more very positive reviews.

I'm going to have to check this band out now, after all this. Sounds interesting as hell.

If you think that's what Terrorizer is, you're wrong.
I don't know nothing about Sikth though, maybe I'll check them out too, since all other bands in your sig are among my favourites as well.

I finally managed to listen to the album, and as much as I wanted to like it, I just can't.

I don't see the review comparisons at all, well, I've never listened to Every Time I Die but still. They came across as some sort of DEP (it's the same idea, if not the same sound)/Mastodon-lite/Taking Back Sunday thing with a hint of Dissilusion and some Mike Patton-esque weirdness thrown in, at a glance. Obviously they aren't subscribing directly to a single genre but I wouldn't really call them Avant Garde. Admittedly though, that term as used in music is so far away from it's actual meaning that it makes it really tough to decide just who is and isn't. Regardless of genre though, it just didn't do much for me. The vocals bugged me, not just the clean vocals but you could say they were the main offender. Musically is was decent, some great moments but a lot of dull ones. You can only write so many of those jittery tech riffs and get the same effect before it gets really tiring. I can respect them more than a lot of shit I've heard lately, but it's not my thing.

As usual, I'll stick closer to grind for my jarring technicality and weirdness.

Despite not liking it, your take is much appreciated. :-)