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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:33 am 
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60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


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ive had this album for a while now (downloaded with the voiceovers) and i have to say i agree with the review... this album fails to dissapoint . . its hard to get used to the album but there is always one song that start the wheels going and for me it was Soil's song . . after that i started to get the vibe of the album and how they have grown and i just think its awesome..

i can understand the 30/100 if u dont like this kinda music... but if u dont like it anyways why even grade it


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noodles wrote:
60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


if they added progression and complexity they wouldnt be katatonia they would be tool . . . rather have one tool and one katatonia... instead of having tool and a tool wannabe


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i can understand the 30/100 if u dont like this kinda music... but if u dont like it anyways why even grade it


But I own every Katatonia album, my opinion is not that of an outsider, just one of the very small minority that didn't love this album.


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i can understand the 30/100 if u dont like this kinda music... but if u dont like it anyways why even grade it


But I own every Katatonia album, my opinion is not that of an outsider, just one of the very small minority that didn't love this album.


oh well then thats different (sorry if u already had the same conversation but i got tired of reading the thread) . .. then i think ull probably change ur mind if u give it another try . . cause the album is not that far different from last fair deal gone and viva emptyness... its more like a mixture

still 30/100 is pretty harsh mayb 60/100 if u dont like it


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60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


if they added progression and complexity they wouldnt be katatonia they would be tool . . . rather have one tool and one katatonia... instead of having tool and a tool wannabe
no, cause tool are happy and katatonia are depressed


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noodles wrote:
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60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


if they added progression and complexity they wouldnt be katatonia they would be tool . . . rather have one tool and one katatonia... instead of having tool and a tool wannabe
no, cause tool are happy and katatonia are depressed


I'm looking forward to that new album.


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Just got the album today, and it's a good album. It's soundscape is similar to VE but at the same time it,s different because the guitar playing is much more varied and inspired. So far Deliberation is my favorite track. I'll have to spin this a little more before I can comment more on it.


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satanicblahster wrote:
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60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


if they added progression and complexity they wouldnt be katatonia they would be tool . . . rather have one tool and one katatonia... instead of having tool and a tool wannabe

Bah. Katatonia could crush Tool so effortlessly if they stopped wallowing in the faggoty muck they're in now. Tool are nothing compared to what Katatonia is capable of.


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Ive had this for a while, and i have a problem with it. Does it sound like nu-metal to anyone else? like the riffing sounds 'flat' like nu-metal, and the soft verse, loud chorus style is oh-so very rap metal. And the electronic elements bug me too.

I really want to like this, but this weird nu-metal comparison just bugs me when i listen to it.

Consternation i like a lot, but some other stuff like my twin just doesnt pull me in. Anyone else get this?


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following the reaper wrote:
Ive had this for a while, and i have a problem with it. Does it sound like nu-metal to anyone else? like the riffing sounds 'flat' like nu-metal, and the soft verse, loud chorus style is oh-so very rap metal. And the electronic elements bug me too.

I really want to like this, but this weird nu-metal comparison just bugs me when i listen to it.

Consternation i like a lot, but some other stuff like my twin just doesnt pull me in. Anyone else get this?


Yes, it is only you because it is completely idiotic. This has nothing to do with nu metal, not even close.


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I still need to listen to this, but i never do.
I'll do it soon enough.
I loved the last album --


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This is definitely in the vein of Viva Emptiness. They could have titled it Viva Emptiness part II. The difference is that it's not quite as good as VE, though it's a damn good album nevertheless. I rate it 85, but it's still growing on me. Best songs so far: Deliberation, Follower, In The White.


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Radical Cut wrote:
satanicblahster wrote:
noodles wrote:
60/100, I really think Katatonia could do something really good if they added even a little bit of progression and/or complexity to their sound.


if they added progression and complexity they wouldnt be katatonia they would be tool . . . rather have one tool and one katatonia... instead of having tool and a tool wannabe

Bah. Katatonia could crush Tool so effortlessly if they stopped wallowing in the faggoty muck they're in now. Tool are nothing compared to what Katatonia is capable of.

Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals. Anywho, this is album is kinda good. Something about it just throws me off. I remember the vocals sounding the same almost every tract except for a few standouts. He has a good voice but he just doesn't try to do anything with it but sing the same melodies every song.


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Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals.

What? :shock: Both singers sound NOTHING alike! Not even close! Neither band has ever sounded similar. People can think Katatonia is better, how is that unfathomable? I think this album is far better than 10,000 Days, which is regurgitated boredom packed onto an elaborately packaged CD.

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Anywho, this is album is kinda good. Something about it just throws me off. I remember the vocals sounding the same almost every tract except for a few standouts. He has a good voice but he just doesn't try to do anything with it but sing the same melodies every song.

You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album.


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Eyesore wrote:
Action Jesus wrote:
Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals.

What? :shock: Both singers sound NOTHING alike! Not even close! Neither band has ever sounded similar. People can think Katatonia is better, how is that unfathomable? I think this album is far better than 10,000 Days, which is regurgitated boredom packed onto an elaborately packaged CD.

I think they sound quite a bit alike! Very close! Both vocalists use a similar almost spoken style! You think this is better then 10,000 days?! You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album!


("!" added for exaggeration and sarcasm)

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Anywho, this is album is kinda good. Something about it just throws me off. I remember the vocals sounding the same almost every tract except for a few standouts. He has a good voice but he just doesn't try to do anything with it but sing the same melodies every song.

You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album.

Jesus Christ, I didn't say it was a bad album, get off your fucking altar.


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Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals.

What? :shock: Both singers sound NOTHING alike! Not even close! Neither band has ever sounded similar. People can think Katatonia is better, how is that unfathomable? I think this album is far better than 10,000 Days, which is regurgitated boredom packed onto an elaborately packaged CD.

I think they sound quite a bit alike! Very close! Both vocalists use a similar almost spoken style! You think this is better then 10,000 days?! You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album!


("!" added for exaggeration and sarcasm)

Pffft! I download. :wink: Yes, I think this is far better than 10,000 Days! The best parts of 10,000 Days remind me of other Tool songs. They're walking the beaten path right now and that's not always a bad thing, but they just didn't do it for me with 10,000 Days. The songs just aren't strong enough for me to overlook the similarities to previous Tool songs.

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Anywho, this is album is kinda good. Something about it just throws me off. I remember the vocals sounding the same almost every tract except for a few standouts. He has a good voice but he just doesn't try to do anything with it but sing the same melodies every song.

You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album.

Jesus Christ, I didn't say it was a bad album, get off your fucking altar.

Calm down, damn.


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Eyesore wrote:
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Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals.

What? :shock: Both singers sound NOTHING alike! Not even close! Neither band has ever sounded similar. People can think Katatonia is better, how is that unfathomable? I think this album is far better than 10,000 Days, which is regurgitated boredom packed onto an elaborately packaged CD.

I think they sound quite a bit alike! Very close! Both vocalists use a similar almost spoken style! You think this is better then 10,000 days?! You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album!


("!" added for exaggeration and sarcasm)

Pffft! I download. :wink: Yes, I think this is far better than 10,000 Days! The best parts of 10,000 Days remind me of other Tool songs. They're walking the beaten path right now and that's not always a bad thing, but they just didn't do it for me with 10,000 Days. The songs just aren't strong enough for me to overlook the similarities to previous Tool songs.

We should discuss that in the Tool thread.

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Anywho, this is album is kinda good. Something about it just throws me off. I remember the vocals sounding the same almost every tract except for a few standouts. He has a good voice but he just doesn't try to do anything with it but sing the same melodies every song.

You're apparently not listening to your downloaded for free album.

Jesus Christ, I didn't say it was a bad album, get off your fucking altar.

Calm down, damn.

Well that was actually supposed to be my message to you... I'm not that upset really. In fact I don't give a shit. But a hostile comment deserves a hostile response :P .


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It wasn't meant to be hostile. It was meant to be sarcastic with a :wink: after it, which I forgot. It's all good.


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Eyesore wrote:
Action Jesus wrote:
Tool is far more original, far more complex, far more talented, are far better song writers then Katatonia although I do like them. I can't even fathom someone thinking Katatonia is better than Tool since part of Katatonia's sound is ripped directly from them... especially the vocals.

What? :shock: Both singers sound NOTHING alike! Not even close! Neither band has ever sounded similar. People can think Katatonia is better, how is that unfathomable? I think this album is far better than 10,000 Days, which is regurgitated boredom packed onto an elaborately packaged CD.

Agreed to the full extent of the law.


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