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Alice Cooper is also pretty fundie, he's still playing. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge about Dave's religious views, lemme check wiki.
It was during this period that Mustaine became a Christian. He expressed his intent to withdraw from a show in Greece that had Rotting Christ opening for Megadeth.[9][10]

In response to their forced cancellation, Sakis of Rotting Christ said:

"I didn't expect something like that from Dave Mustaine, because, you know, he's supposed to be metal — you know, 'metal band,' all metal ... I just feel sorry for him and for every new Christian with new ideas, because we think Christianity is the worst thing to happen in human history. This is a well-organized trick in order to control society, so when I see someone that's very much Christian, that's full of the system, I feel very sorry for him because he's not free." [11]

Mustaine responded on the official Megadeth website, saying "Yes, I did say I would prefer not to play on concerts with Satanic bands," he said. "That doesn't mean I won't, it doesn't mean I would not talk with the bands either...But to make a life-altering change and then not have some kind of effect would not have been a change at all, would it? It's not much different from staying away from booze if you have made a decision to be sober."

He added, "If I don't feel it is right for me to do something, then (I) would just respectfully decline. I would not ask that anyone be taken off if they were already confirmed...I have to draw the line and stand for my beliefs or they aren't beliefs at all, are they?"[12]

Hm. Douche?

Hmmmm...

So being openly and actively Christian automatically makes him a fundie?



Dave certainly handled this the wrong way. After all, he probably disappointed a lot of the people who were coming to the show mainly to see his band. And he also probably seriously hindered RC's plans. But I don't think it would be unfair to at least try to understand where he was coming from with his decision.



Errr, if they say so.



Ummmm, what was actually wrong with what he was saying here? It sounds totally reasonable to me. Michael Weikath also once admitted in an interview about seven or eight years ago that he didn't want his band (Helloween) playing with satanic bands for the same reasons.

"That doesn't mean I won't [play with Satanic bands]". Well, he pulled out of playing with RC. Also his bullshit about "standing for his beliefs" is the sort of retarded attitude that gets you suicide bombers when taken to an ideological level, as it is here. RC have done nothing to him personally, but because he has different "beliefs" about the creation of the world and the meaning of life he won't play with them?
Plus his conversion as a result of alcoholism seems to me to indicate that it's a weakness-induced conversion, and therefore leaves me even more apprehensive of the possible intensity of his devoutness.

Dave's actually a pretty smart guy. I doubt he'd go to THAT extreme (suicide bombing, etc.).

Regarding his decision to take RC off the bill like that, again, I'll happily admit that he handled it wrong. But it isn't just about differing beliefs. I'm a Christian, and I don't really mind listening to some atheistic bands. I think it's more the way RC openly mocks his beliefs with their music (and, of course, their name). Without getting too deep into this, that could certainly lead him to have convictions about it.

As for what led to him becoming a Christian, I'm not really sure it was just his alcoholism. From what I've seen, I get the impression he was leaning towards Christian belief for a while (he did admit that he always had some kind of belief in God). Finally, after his arm injury, he broke down and asked himself, "What do I have to lose?" And so he gave into his conscience and became one.

I wasn't insinuating that Dave is a potential suicide bomber, no way. I was merely pointing out the slippery slope once your religious beliefs can end up irrationally influencing your behaviour and interactions with other people, 's all.
As far as his conversion goes, I don't have enough info to really judge, but from what I know it just seems weak regardless. Although I tend to view anyone who converts to a monotheistic religion later in life with a prejudiced eye anyway.

No disagreement here.



Welllllll, I certainly don't get that impression from him. But then, I'm not a mind reader, so I don't know.

Anyway, back to the main topic (Endgame). BTW, thanks for the advice Adam.

I feel Megadeth has been way more consistent than Antrhax. Anything after Persistence of Time is pretty forgettable in my opinion. Heck, I'd even say Overkill has been more consistent than the both of them put together. Mustaine has hit a homerun with this one!

If he's so true to his convictions then he wont do this rumored "Big Four" super tour. Slayer has a whole slew of satanic imagery and messages in their music.....so if Dave wont play with Rotting Christ, then he must also decline to play with Slayer or risk being the biggest asshole hypocrite in the world.

He'll still do it, since all of the "Big Four" at the end of the day worship the same entity: $$$$$$$

I'm sure he'll come up with some BS excuse like Slayer just have satanic imagery, but aren't satanists or something along those lines.

horrible horrible fail

I can't stand the KIMB remaster, the original is much better IMO.

I guess the issue would be where he personally draws the line in terms of lyrics (and, for that matter, band names), as some bands are more offensive than others. Either way, he'd basically have a Catch-22. If he played with Slayer, he'd be branded a hypocrite. If he didn't, he'd be branded a sissy.

Actually, I think this ties in to the whole Rotting Christ thing. He handled it wrong but their statement was kind of ridiculous. "Christianity is the worst thing to happen to man and anyone who follows it is an idiot" is just as ignorant as being a Christian fundamentalist. Basically, instead of saying he shouldn't let his beliefs get in the way of his music, they just said his beliefs are stupid.

A band like Slayer would never release a statement like that, even if Mustaine refused to tour with them. Why? Probably because they don't really believe that Christianity automatically makes a person retarded. Coincidentally, that's the same reason Dave would be more likely to actually play with Slayer.

Well he is both. He's also an ego-maniac. He talks about how good marty friedman and Chris Broderick are at the guitar, but then goes on to cite several publications naming him as the greatest guitar player ever.....that he is a legend...etc, etc.

Lets face it, anyone who was that whacked out on drugs, for so long is bound to be short a few marbles. The sad part is, is that by finding God, like many fundamentalist Christians, he now thinks that he's above everyone. It totally explains his views on himself and the world around him. The other bummer, is that people keep throwing money at this guy so that he feels justified in continuing to be the shithead that he is.

It's too bad that the only thing that drives him is his desire to make more money than Metallica.....that and whatever misguided sense of religious superiority he has. Perhaps he wrote the song "head crusher" for God? Who knows.

In the end, I know that I don't like Megadeth....and can't really listen to the old material all that much either, solely because of Dave Mustaine. Thank god for Agent Steel.

Actually, Adam got it right. The only reason Megadeth would play with Slayer is because he'd get paid a whole shit load of money. But perhaps God will come to Saint Mustaine in a dream and tell him to play with Slayer....and then convert them.

Either way, he's fucked out of his gourd and should stop bothering humanity. He should start a cult out in the desert south of Tucson. He could call it "Mega-Rapture." They could put out an album too. The first single should be called "Space Ship's Leaving Early."

That's far too harsh.

To be fair, he can certainly back those claims up.

Let's face it, Mustaine is retarded and his music equally is. And all that "back to my thrash roots" bullshit is just a way to earn more $, not an artistic statement. Plus, it's a lie, Megadeth has never been a thrash band and will never be one.

Don't you have some Fountains Of Wayne to go listen to?