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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:27 pm 
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Chris Broderick > Marty Friedman.

Saw them both, Broderick wins.


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That's far too harsh.

Let's face it, Mustaine is retarded and his music equally is. And all that "back to my thrash roots" bullshit is just a way to earn more $, not an artistic statement. Plus, it's a lie, Megadeth has never been a thrash band and will never be one.
And Slayer were never Thrash but Death Metal, because most of their songs are containing Death Metal Riffs... :rolleyes: ;)

Thrash is more than the riffs and the (actually Punk) drumming. Thrash is also how the singing is and the distortion degree of the guitars. The very same riff can be classic Heavy Metal and Thrash Metal - it depends how the guitar sounds. E.G.. The classic Iron Maiden galloping riff (e.g.: Caught Somewhere in Time) played with a more distorted guitar (like on Conjuring or Endgame Title Track) could be considered as Thrash. Also has thrash metal a not so melodic singing like normal Metal.

And if you mix thrash metal guitars and riffs with melodic singing of Heavy Metal, you get US Power Metal like Iced Earth. :D


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why can't people just enjoy the music? who gives a shit about what the band members think or believe, if the music is good listen to it. If you don't like it, then fuck off and don't listen to it.

problem solved.


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steeltoe wrote:
Chris Broderick > Marty Friedman.

Saw them both, Broderick wins.


When did you see Marty Friedman?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:34 pm 
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Hasn't Alex Jones been conclusively proved to be a flaming nutjob? He thinks Koresh was assassinated and that they sacrifice children in the Bohemian Grove, ffs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

Anyone that rattles on about how the Bilderberg group are controlling the world, that climate change is a lie, or that 9/11 was an inside job, gets my middle finger. And this nut who believes all three, heh, as opposed as I am to the Iraq war I certainly don't follow Jones.

And Endgame is a killer album.


Is an insane person in an insane world actually a sane person in a sane world? The oak is just a nut that held its ground. David Icke with his reptilian illuminati is far more extreme than alex jones, but has at least catchy quotes. =P

Alex Jones does not refute climate change, just that is it manmade! Scintiest have determined past temperature by the sunspot activity cycle and this method has been very reliable. There is a 99% correlation of temperature and sunspot activity and according to this measure the temperature is excactly what is should be! The earth average temperature has been over 10 degrees Celsius higher than it is today, so what does it matter even if temperature will rise with five degrees in the coming decenniums (however we are soon running into a cooling period). The global warming talk is just a mean for bankers to impose carbon credit taxes with the cloak of saving the world!

9/11 was an inside job. Three buildings fell like a controlled demolition, but only two planes hit the WTC towes! WTC7 was not even next to WTC1&2. Nobody refutes planes hit the buildings and perhaps there were religous fundamentalists involved, but it is just insane to think primitive cavemen could have done this alone! There are tons of evidence that shows the official story is a load of bull and Charlie Sheens 20 minutes with the president story is a short and excellent recap: http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes- ... president/

Bilderberg is just a secret meeting where wealthiest billionaire meet with coporate and state leaders. However, every year different people get invited and there are only a handful of people there who stay the same. Alex Jones does not say Bilderberg rules the world, but that it is a important meeting where billionaires give the current state/corporate leaders the agenda that they want to get imposed.

Wikipedia has very bad info on Alex Jones. I suggest you look at the documentary that inspired Dave Mustaine to write this album. The documentary is very professionally done and is very well documented and researched and is featuring a lot of credible information and wellknown people.

I hope people check it out and research the facts. You will be very surprised, but everything starts to make sense.


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You're crazy, Alex Jones is crazy, Charlie Sheen is crazy and Dave Mustaine is crazy, but only one of the five is Megadeth, and that's all that matters here.
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http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... 911_morons


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Goat wrote:
You're crazy, Alex Jones is crazy, Charlie Sheen is crazy and Dave Mustaine is crazy, but only one of the five is Megadeth, and that's all that matters here.
Edit:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... 911_morons


Good ol' Maddox.
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Satan's Anus wrote:
Listen here, fagporn. I only brought up Death Magnetic because someone asked. I've always said comparing the two bands is stupid.

Either way, I do think this album is great. Surely not a classic by any means, but I've listened to it countless times already and it's only gotten better.

Countless, Only because you can't count to 10.

I suppose I could accept that it is a grower. But I personally haven't been hooked enough to give it that kind of time.

I maintain that "System" is far superior to this and the previous. (and everything after Youthanasia frankly)


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
why can't people just enjoy the music? who gives a shit about what the band members think or believe, if the music is good listen to it. If you don't like it, then fuck off and don't listen to it.

problem solved.


Exactly,just live and let live.I understand the urge to clarrify HT,but really I'd say Megadeth is Thrash myself.Not every band must sound the same,hell my beloved Death metal is incredibly diverse.I'd go crazy trying to convert the hordes of kids that think all this emo/screamo/hardcore/metalcore/deathcore is TrVe deathmetal.

Endgame is enjoyable but not uber impressive.I'm always spinning somebody else these days,though thanks to recommendations I'm checking out KiMB remastered. :dio:


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
why can't people just enjoy the music? who gives a shit about what the band members think or believe, if the music is good listen to it. If you don't like it, then fuck off and don't listen to it.

problem solved.


This

I plan on getting this soon if it's as good as Zad said it is in the review and by the score I'm sure I won't be disappointed.


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Head Crusher really grew on me but the rest just seems really bland. It lacks the spunk of earlier 'deth, or even Burnt Ice.


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Who gives a crap about Dave's political affiliation or religious choices? None if it seems to be effecting the music, so it's all good. I think it's foolish to call him crazy just because he chooses to like or dislike certain things. That's pure ignorance and a good example of a hypocrite. Dave's musical talents still own most musicians in this genre, and End Game is great.

Great review minus the bashing of Dave's personal choices. That's just unprofessional and foolish.


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Why can't I bash Dave's 'personal choices'? In this case, the subject does affect the music because it's in the lyrics. Ie, is pertinent. I never bashed his religious choices, just the fact that he believes all this conspiracy bullshit, and there are plenty of professional reviewers who would be more than happy to do the same.


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Whereas AFAIK the "Endgame" document really exists, and so the lyrics are maybe a little exaggerated, but on the other side, institutions like "homeland security" are also a little bit exaggerated, because, why does the USA needs something like this when they have NSA, FBI, CIA, Police and so on?! Or what about the "PATRIOT Act"?


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Goat wrote:
Why can't I bash Dave's 'personal choices'? In this case, the subject does affect the music because it's in the lyrics. Ie, is pertinent. I never bashed his religious choices, just the fact that he believes all this conspiracy bullshit, and there are plenty of professional reviewers who would be more than happy to do the same.


Agreed... it is nonsense to say that reviewers should just politely shut up about musicians that talk a lot of loony crap. Sure, maybe a lot of people don't care about all that stuff if the music is good, but plenty of people do, and for good reasons.


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TheMetalWarrior316 wrote:
Lucifer's Son wrote:
Goat wrote:
That's far too harsh.

Let's face it, Mustaine is retarded and his music equally is. And all that "back to my thrash roots" bullshit is just a way to earn more $, not an artistic statement. Plus, it's a lie, Megadeth has never been a thrash band and will never be one.
And Slayer were never Thrash but Death Metal, because most of their songs are containing Death Metal Riffs... :rolleyes: ;)

Thrash is more than the riffs and the (actually Punk) drumming. Thrash is also how the singing is and the distortion degree of the guitars. The very same riff can be classic Heavy Metal and Thrash Metal - it depends how the guitar sounds. E.G.. The classic Iron Maiden galloping riff (e.g.: Caught Somewhere in Time) played with a more distorted guitar (like on Conjuring or Endgame Title Track) could be considered as Thrash. Also has thrash metal a not so melodic singing like normal Metal.

And if you mix thrash metal guitars and riffs with melodic singing of Heavy Metal, you get US Power Metal like Iced Earth. :D


While I agree with certain things that you've said....I still don't think that Megadeth is thrash metal, nor has it ever been.


And the claim that Dave Mustaine can back up the claim that he is one of the best all time is pure fucking nonesence. Paco de Lucia would run circles around his stupid born again ass. So would Andres Segovia, Uli Jon Roth, Michael Schenker, Charlie Steinhauer, Lee Altus, Gary Holt, etc. etc. etc. etc.


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Was anybody else strongly reminded of Judas Priest with Bite The Hand? Believe it or not, when I first heard that main riff, I expected to hear Halford screaming/screeching. But nope. It was just Mustaine growling/snarling.

Anyway, great review. But one small quibble. I would argue that, musically-speaking, Anthrax has probably been the most consistent of the Big Four. Granted, some of their releases were better than others. But, unlike the other three bands (with the exception of Slayer for me, but I know almost everybody here will disagree with that), Anthrax has never released a really bad album.

I'd give this album probably about an 85/100. Actually, I think I'd rank all Megadeth albums as follows:

Killing Is My Business - Haven't Heard
Peace Sells... But Who's Buying - 84/100
So Far, So Good, So What - Haven't Heard
Rust In Peace - 94/100
Countdown To Extinction - 84/100
Youthanasia - 88/100
Cryptic Writings - 85/100
Risk - 40/100
The World Needs A Hero - 70/100
The System Has Failed - 92/100
United Abominations - 80/100
Endgame - 85/100


I'm knew to this site, but I am not new to Megadeth.

In my opinion, anyone who hasn't heard KIMB, or SFSGSW Shouldn't judge this album because this album goes back to those roots.

Oh and Metallica? GET WITH THE PROGRAM


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 Post subject: Re: Insanity needed to describe an insane world!
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Yes, the lyrics in Endgame sound insane, but they should be because we live in an insane world! Glenn Beck is just a governnment shill, but Alex Jones is the real deal and Dave Mustaine has been on his radioshow various times. The album title was influenced by Alex Jones latest movie that was also called Endgame and the lyrics were largely based around that album. The full movie can be seen at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM6US0Qk5_8

There is also a new movie, released yesterday, called Camp Fema by William Lewis that is even featuring Constiution Party's presidential candidate who Chuck Baldwin was third in the race (beating bob barr and ralph nader) who confims that these camps are real. However, the evidence speak for themselves and if you stop sucking your thumbs and start thinking for yourself you find out this is real :(

Remember that US already had concentration camps in the 40s where they put all citizens that had more than 1/6 japanese blood in them! Most German and Austrian citiziens claim they did not know about the camps before the end of the war! What makes you think that goverment would let you know this times about these camps? Because Fox News is fair and balanced? =D The media is totally government controlled in the US and its sad that government rejected Al Jazeera to broadcast in the US even though they were on par with the requirements and had the financial side in order. No No No, you MUST only remember those 2900 poor souls who lost their life when "terrorists" attacked WTC, but shall not remember those 1,6 dead iraqies who died as a consequence of the "war on terror". You shall not remember that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and there were NO weapons of massdestructions! Why does NO media ever report of this even though this should be the biggest news story each day??? Americans should be OUTRAGEOUS of this idiotic war that costs you each day hundreds of millions of dollars and causes an incredible death toll and misery in the middle east! You think you are living in a free country? Think again!


People like you need to be flogged with a whiffle ball bat. That was one of the most deranged and colossally stupid rants I have ever heard. I also noticed how you didn't mention anything about how Islam declares war on 'infidels' in their holy book. Oh and your '1/6th' blood crap is 100% untrue. Yes, we detained Japanese citizens. We were at war. It's called profiling. Drastic measures needed to be taken, and frankly, need to be taken now also.

oh and don't forget.. the Muslims have caused all of their own problems.


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Just to point out that profiling is bullshit.

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metalNESS wrote:
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Chris Broderick > Marty Friedman.

Saw them both, Broderick wins.


When did you see Marty Friedman?


Ozzfest '98


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