Metal Reviews

Newest and Best Metal Reviews!
FAQ :: Search :: Members :: Groups :: Register
Login
It is currently Fri May 23, 2025 9:10 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next   
Author Message
 Post subject: 'Witchbreed - Heretic Rapture (#5425)'
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:58 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:50 am
Posts: 5515
You're welcome to comment on:
Quote:
Image
Witchbreed - Heretic Rapture
Dark Metal
Quoted: 73 / 100


Click here to see the review.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:30 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Quote:
Featuring a former member of Moonspell on bass, Portuguese ‘Dark Metal’ experimentalists Witchbreed quickly prove themselves closer to the base Gothic Metal pantheon that they would like to admit. From their male musicians to their sexy female frontperson, Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set...

And yet what you've described is something that doesn't fit so nicely into the typical goth metal style. This is a great album. And no mention of Waldemar Sorychta?

You should stop reviewing tons of albums each week. No way you can be objective enough. Not trying to be a dick, either.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:37 am 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Satan's Anus wrote:
Quote:
Featuring a former member of Moonspell on bass, Portuguese ‘Dark Metal’ experimentalists Witchbreed quickly prove themselves closer to the base Gothic Metal pantheon that they would like to admit. From their male musicians to their sexy female frontperson, Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set...

And yet what you've described is something that doesn't fit so nicely into the typical goth metal style. This is a great album. And no mention of Waldemar Sorychta?

You should stop reviewing tons of albums each week. No way you can be objective enough. Not trying to be a dick, either.


Typical (fem-fronted) Goth Metal bands don't have male musicians and a sexy female frontperson? News to me. And Waldemar Sorychta? I'm assuming he produced it, something that wasn't mentioned in the promotional material, and even so, so what? He's not exactly a big enough name to warrant mention.

My problems with this album were, as mentioned, the songs being too samey. Don't you find that? Is being objective ignoring what I found from this album after multiple listens? I got it weeks back and have listened all the way through at least four or five times. I'm perfectly objective.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:48 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Typical (fem-fronted) Goth Metal bands don't have male musicians and a sexy female frontperson?

You think like a Hot Topic turd. This is music. :wink:

Quote:
And Waldemar Sorychta? I'm assuming he produced it, something that wasn't mentioned in the promotional material, and even so, so what? He's not exactly a big enough name to warrant mention.

You serious? For his production alone, he's worth a mention. He's one of the top guys out there.

Quote:
My problems with this album were, as mentioned, the songs being too samey. Don't you find that? Is being objective ignoring what I found from this album after multiple listens? I got it weeks back and have listened all the way through at least four or five times. I'm perfectly objective.

I have no issues with you disliking the album, of course. I simply read you say A, but then describe B.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:06 pm 
Offline
Einherjar
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:52 am
Posts: 2015
Location: North Carolina, USA
I just stumbled upon this while surfing around lala.com today looking for new stuff that I may have missed out on. I began listening to it and wondered if MR had written a review yet and look what I found. Zad, I understand your point of view in your review but 'ole Ken does make a good case. I liked the album because it wasn't the same 'run o' the mill' female fronted gothic driven nonsense. There were enough musical twists to keep me interested and her voice is distinct enough to stave off comparisons to other female singers. I felt the same way the first time I listened to Ebony Ark's first CD.

Anyway, for what it's worth I like album and I'm glad to see that MR had already provided a review.

:wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:49 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Cheers but I'll defend this forever. Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have. I genuinely found the choruses too samey, and that was enough to take those points off, and I made that clear. Autumn do much better things with Goth Metal, checked them out yet?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:02 am 
Offline
Einherjar
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:52 am
Posts: 2015
Location: North Carolina, USA
I have. I bought 'My New Time' and enjoyed it. I haven't picked up their latest 'Altitude' yet. I'll jump over to lala and give it a listen right now. :) BTW, I don't dispute the right to your opinion at all. I certainly understand how music affects the listener differently. Thanks for the review all the same sir.


Last edited by Mike on Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:02 am 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Raven wrote:
I have. I bought 'My New Time' and enjoyed it. I haven't picked up their latest 'Altitude' yet. I'll jump over to lala and give it a listen right now. :)


Altitude is miles above My New Time (pun intended!). Check out my review, says it all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:35 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Cheers but I'll defend this forever. Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have. I genuinely found the choruses too samey, and that was enough to take those points off, and I made that clear. Autumn do much better things with Goth Metal, checked them out yet?

First off, I didn't whine. Secondly, I only replied because your review is contradictory shit. =) It's a clear indication of a reviewer just going through the motions, loving the act of people reading his words but not caring about what those actual words say.

Like I said, stop reviewing so many albums each week. :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:11 am 
Offline
Einherjar
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 2151
Location: Where Dark and Light Don't Differ
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Typical (fem-fronted) Goth Metal bands don't have male musicians and a sexy female frontperson?

You think like a Hot Topic turd. This is music. :wink:


You should stop being such a douche. Zad, in my opinion, handles reviews fairly well and has turned me on to NUMEROUS bands I would have never heard of otherwise ( Same goes for a lot of the reviewers here ). He, like anyone else doing a review, is going to have an opinion. Naturally, not everyone is going to agree on it.

If you disagree, that's awesome. Share your thoughts, but why do you always gotta start with the insults right off the bat?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:23 am 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Cheers but I'll defend this forever. Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have. I genuinely found the choruses too samey, and that was enough to take those points off, and I made that clear. Autumn do much better things with Goth Metal, checked them out yet?

First off, I didn't whine. Secondly, I only replied because your review is contradictory shit. =) It's a clear indication of a reviewer just going through the motions, loving the act of people reading his words but not caring about what those actual words say.

Like I said, stop reviewing so many albums each week. :wink:


I replied to the wahhh it's contradictory point earlier, nice of you to say the same thing twice. Just going through the motions, indeed. Meanie.

Cheers for the kind words, Evil Dead.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:33 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
The Evil Dead wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Typical (fem-fronted) Goth Metal bands don't have male musicians and a sexy female frontperson?

You think like a Hot Topic turd. This is music. :wink:

You should stop being such a douche. Zad, in my opinion, handles reviews fairly well and has turned me on to NUMEROUS bands I would have never heard of otherwise ( Same goes for a lot of the reviewers here ). He, like anyone else doing a review, is going to have an opinion. Naturally, not everyone is going to agree on it.

If you disagree, that's awesome. Share your thoughts, but why do you always gotta start with the insults right off the bat?

Insults? I should hope Zad knows I'm not insulting him. I'm taking some friendly jabs at him, that's all. If you don't know that...well, that's your own fault. Zad can handle himself when it comes to me; he's been doing fine for like 5 years now.

Despite the way it may appear, I like Zad and I think he's a good reviewer. However, having been in the reviewing game for nearly as long as Zad has been alive, I don't for a second believe Zad is giving albums enough playtime to properly—and more importantly accurately—review them. Simple as that. My opinion. Everything else is just friendly banter despite the way it may appear.


Last edited by Satan's Anus on Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:35 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Cheers but I'll defend this forever. Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have. I genuinely found the choruses too samey, and that was enough to take those points off, and I made that clear. Autumn do much better things with Goth Metal, checked them out yet?

First off, I didn't whine. Secondly, I only replied because your review is contradictory shit. =) It's a clear indication of a reviewer just going through the motions, loving the act of people reading his words but not caring about what those actual words say.

Like I said, stop reviewing so many albums each week. :wink:

I replied to the wahhh it's contradictory point earlier, nice of you to say the same thing twice. Just going through the motions, indeed. Meanie.

Well, it appears I needed to repeat myself since you clearly didn't read what I wrote.

Quote:
Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have.

Surely I said no such thing.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:19 am 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Cheers but I'll defend this forever. Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have. I genuinely found the choruses too samey, and that was enough to take those points off, and I made that clear. Autumn do much better things with Goth Metal, checked them out yet?

First off, I didn't whine. Secondly, I only replied because your review is contradictory shit. =) It's a clear indication of a reviewer just going through the motions, loving the act of people reading his words but not caring about what those actual words say.

Like I said, stop reviewing so many albums each week. :wink:

I replied to the wahhh it's contradictory point earlier, nice of you to say the same thing twice. Just going through the motions, indeed. Meanie.

Well, it appears I needed to repeat myself since you clearly didn't read what I wrote.

Quote:
Ken basically whined because I didn't give it the 10 points extra he would have.

Surely I said no such thing.


Male musicians and a female singer are quite common in the Gothic Metal market right now. What, just because they have a Moonspeller on bass or are from Portugal that changes all that? I was contrasting different aspects of the band with how they fit within the genre, and never once contradicted myself. Read it properly!

And yes, I think you're just bitching because I gave this a pretty good score instead of the great one you would have. :wink: Funny how you're the only one to mention this 'inaccuracy' of mine, and funny how you only find the slightest provocation once a blue moon...

BTW, I am rather insulted at being associated with Hot Topic by you when 1. I've never been inside one and 2. you think Korn's debut is a classic. That's the pot calling the kettle black, that is.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:29 pm 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Male musicians and a female singer are quite common in the Gothic Metal market right now. What, just because they have a Moonspeller on bass or are from Portugal that changes all that? I was contrasting different aspects of the band with how they fit within the genre, and never once contradicted myself. Read it properly!

You basically said this band your typical goth metal band, but then went on to describe a band and album that is quite different from the typical goth metal band. That's the very definition of a contradiction.

Quote:
And yes, I think you're just bitching because I gave this a pretty good score instead of the great one you would have. :wink: Funny how you're the only one to mention this 'inaccuracy' of mine, and funny how you only find the slightest provocation once a blue moon...

I'm not bitching at all. Just trying to keep you honest.

Quote:
BTW, I am rather insulted at being associated with Hot Topic by you when 1. I've never been inside one and 2. you think Korn's debut is a classic. That's the pot calling the kettle black, that is.

Hot Topic is a cool store. They have great shirts. Nothing wrong with the store, actually, it's the mentality of those kids that shop there that is annoying.

You reviewed an album of music, but your justification of what makes them typical goth metal is because they have "male musicians and a sexy female frontperson." That has nothing to do with music.

Thus you are a Hot Topic turd. :P


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:33 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Balls to all that.

Quote:
From their male musicians to their sexy female frontperson, Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set, and yet a good listen to debut full-length Heretic Rapture dispels that somewhat.


Note the last three words, underlined and coloured in red for your ease. IE, although they might SEEM to be the usual goth malarkey, if you listen to the album you'll see that is wrong. I go on to describe exactly how they're different. Do you even bother to read the reviews properly? I know there are a lot of them, but a bit of attention might not go amiss. PWNED. Keep me honest, ha.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:41 pm 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Balls to all that.

Quote:
From their male musicians to their sexy female frontperson, Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set, and yet a good listen to debut full-length Heretic Rapture dispels that somewhat.


Note the last three words, underlined and coloured in red for your ease. IE, although they might SEEM to be the usual goth malarkey, if you listen to the album you'll see that is wrong. I go on to describe exactly how they're different. Do you even bother to read the reviews properly? I know there are a lot of them, but a bit of attention might not go amiss. PWNED. Keep me honest, ha.

Really? Just for the record, those three words don't help you at all. Regardless of their presence, you're still insisting this album is typical goth metal for the most part. And again, what you go on to describe is anything but that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:44 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Satan's Anus wrote:
Really? Just for the record, those three words don't help you at all. Regardless of their presence, you're still insisting this album is typical goth metal for the most part. And again, what you go on to describe is anything but that.


Where do I insist that? I even tag it Dark Metal, ffs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:50 pm 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1046
Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Really? Just for the record, those three words don't help you at all. Regardless of their presence, you're still insisting this album is typical goth metal for the most part. And again, what you go on to describe is anything but that.


Where do I insist that? I even tag it Dark Metal, ffs.

"...Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set..."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:53 pm 
Offline
MetalReviews Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 29891
Location: UK
Satan's Anus wrote:
Goat wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Really? Just for the record, those three words don't help you at all. Regardless of their presence, you're still insisting this album is typical goth metal for the most part. And again, what you go on to describe is anything but that.


Where do I insist that? I even tag it Dark Metal, ffs.

"...Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set..."


Will someone please find me a facepalm picture to insert here? Ken, read the entire sentence, you numpty:

"From their male musicians to their sexy female frontperson, Witchbreed fit in easily to the usual Gothic Metal B-set, and yet a good listen to debut full-length Heretic Rapture dispels that somewhat."

I'm saying that ON THE SURFACE FROM A CASUAL PERUSAL Witchbreed would seem to be part of the Goth yadda, but if you actually listen to the album that impression is dispelled. So I'm saying musically this is NOT typically Goth Metal. Christ almighty.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next   


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group