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 Post subject: 'Paramore - Riot! (#5491)'
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:12 pm 
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Paramore - Riot!
Pop-punk-metal hybrid
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metal hybrid? lmfao


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Okay, so this isn't a judgment call on whether or not Paramore is good or talented or whatever, nor is this a judgment call on you for liking them, but why exactly is this being reviewed here?


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Wintermute wrote:
Okay, so this isn't a judgment call on whether or not Paramore is good or talented or whatever, nor is this a judgment call on you for liking them, but why exactly is this being reviewed here?


You must not have noticed the world fusion or free jazz reviews from days past.


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there is no metal in this band, not that i care to have them reviewed here but they are more hardcore tinged them metal.


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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
there is no metal in this band, not that i care to have them reviewed here but they are more hardcore tinged them metal.


Maybe so (I haven't really heard them enough) but that argument doesn't hold much water when there are reviews of this type of music on this site, don't you think?

I also find it funny/sad that reviews of fringe rock acts get so many pissed off replies, yet there are a never ending supply of kickass metal acts whose reviews get zero response on the forum.


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Rody totally explains how Paramore have to do with metal, yo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsIT-t-xgeA

I lub this album although I also think their songs stick to verse/chorus/verse/chorus/break/chorus formula... I'm glad that on Decode and Ignorance they've been departing from that at least a little and I'm super excited for their next album.


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I have trouble hearing the Metal also, (what's wrong with calling them Post-Hardcore?) but Paramore aren't that bad. A bit Poppy, sure, and I think you overscored them slightly, Elias, considering you seemed a bit meh about them at times and then only gave them one point less than I did to Blast Tyrant, which is an amazingly good album.

Not something I'd listen to often, but more tolerable than Avril Lavigne.


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Adam wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
there is no metal in this band, not that i care to have them reviewed here but they are more hardcore tinged them metal.


Maybe so (I haven't really heard them enough) but that argument doesn't hold much water when there are reviews of this type of music on this site, don't you think?

I also find it funny/sad that reviews of fringe rock acts get so many pissed off replies, yet there are a never ending supply of kickass metal acts whose reviews get zero response on the forum.


I'm not even saying they are a shitty band, I haven't heard more then two songs by them and its understandable that this site reviews other sub genres of rock aside from metal hit the SEARCH button and see for yourself. I'm not angry that these guys were reviewed its just funny he called them a 'metal hybrid'


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You must not have noticed the world fusion or free jazz reviews from days past.



I did notice some of those, actually. I'm not exactly sure why those were reviewed here either. I suppose the argument could be made that those reviews are on this site because the reviewer believed that the music could appeal to metal heads and by reviewing them they are providing the bands with exposure in a place where they may not have received any. I'm not sure that the same can be said of Paramore, as they already have had plenty of exposure. They are already a well-known band, who are perhaps not in need of the same exposure that a world fusion or free jazz artist could use.


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Wintermute wrote:
I did notice some of those, actually. I'm not exactly sure why those were reviewed here either. I suppose the argument could be made that those reviews are on this site because the reviewer believed that the music could appeal to metal heads and by reviewing them they are providing the bands with exposure in a place where they may not have received any. I'm not sure that the same can be said of Paramore, as they already have had plenty of exposure. They are already a well-known band, who are perhaps not in need of the same exposure that a world fusion or free jazz artist could use.


Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


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noodles wrote:
Rody totally explains how Paramore have to do with metal, yo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsIT-t-xgeA

I lub this album although I also think their songs stick to verse/chorus/verse/chorus/break/chorus formula... I'm glad that on Decode and Ignorance they've been departing from that at least a little and I'm super excited for their next album.


Sounds more like he was goofing around! lol

Curious to see what Paramore comes up with next.


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Adam wrote:
Wintermute wrote:
I did notice some of those, actually. I'm not exactly sure why those were reviewed here either. I suppose the argument could be made that those reviews are on this site because the reviewer believed that the music could appeal to metal heads and by reviewing them they are providing the bands with exposure in a place where they may not have received any. I'm not sure that the same can be said of Paramore, as they already have had plenty of exposure. They are already a well-known band, who are perhaps not in need of the same exposure that a world fusion or free jazz artist could use.


Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


+1 That's basically the first paragraph of my review. Read it before bitchin' :D
So... Did anyone read/enjoy the review?

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Adam wrote:
Wintermute wrote:
I did notice some of those, actually. I'm not exactly sure why those were reviewed here either. I suppose the argument could be made that those reviews are on this site because the reviewer believed that the music could appeal to metal heads and by reviewing them they are providing the bands with exposure in a place where they may not have received any. I'm not sure that the same can be said of Paramore, as they already have had plenty of exposure. They are already a well-known band, who are perhaps not in need of the same exposure that a world fusion or free jazz artist could use.


Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


+1

So... Did anyone read/enjoy the review?


That's right, ignore me. :sad:


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Adam wrote:
Wintermute wrote:
I did notice some of those, actually. I'm not exactly sure why those were reviewed here either. I suppose the argument could be made that those reviews are on this site because the reviewer believed that the music could appeal to metal heads and by reviewing them they are providing the bands with exposure in a place where they may not have received any. I'm not sure that the same can be said of Paramore, as they already have had plenty of exposure. They are already a well-known band, who are perhaps not in need of the same exposure that a world fusion or free jazz artist could use.


Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


+1

So... Did anyone read/enjoy the review?


That's right, ignore me. :sad:


Sorry, thought you were only commenting on the score :D

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I read the review GOSH DOES ANYONE EVEN READ MY COMMENTS


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What a pop-punk-metal hybrid might sound like

http://www.myspace.com/volbeat

Adam wrote:
Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


However, speaking for myself, I am not a poor close minded metalhead here to be "turned on" to something outside metal/hard rock. There are much better places for that.

Just so you know where some of us are coming from .. that's the last I'll say on the topic.


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I read the review GOSH DOES ANYONE EVEN READ MY COMMENTS


I meant the people who were complaining. Although I am guilty of having missed your post. Sorry noodlz. :wub:

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Funny how people rush on controversial albums, not on quality ones... :rolleyes:


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
What a pop-punk-metal hybrid might sound like

http://www.myspace.com/volbeat

Adam wrote:
Well, maybe due to that exposure, most metalheads have a negative opinion of them. This thread alone proves that. If Elias wants to try to turn readers on to bands who have a mostly baseless negative stigma with the metal community, I don't see the problem, personally.


However, speaking for myself, I am not a poor close minded metalhead here to be "turned on" to something outside metal/hard rock. There are much better places for that.

Just so you know where some of us are coming from .. that's the last I'll say on the topic.


Volbeat are more like rockabilly/thrash than pop.

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