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I can't get into this album maybe COB just isn't for me anymore.

Gave this one a few spins, then listened to Follow the Reaper for comparison. The songwriting just isnt there any more. The last two still had some memorable tracks for the most part, but there is nothing here. I found myself listening to the vocals just to try and catch something of interest, and you know thats a bad sign on a COB album.

58/100 for me, maybe higher if I give it more time.

+1 and I wasn't expecting another classic like FTR or prior releases, but COB releases nowdays just don't impress me anymore like they used to.

Surprised you didn't mention the song "Shovel Knockout." (Track 2)

I think that one is absolutely awesome and one of COB's best songs.

I think you'll like it if you liked what Hate Crew had to offer and have gotten over that 4 albums later, they aren't going to sound the same. They've taken to being a more simplified band, and that bores a lot of people that liked them originally.

True, but even compared to Hate Crew this is particularly unmemorable. I dont think that I have just gotten over Bodom, beacuse I still think their first three albums are awesome. Ill give it more time, see if anything changes.

This is definitely not a bad album and step up from Blooddrunk. I'd give this a 76.

I refuse to listen to this album and preserve my memory of what they were, an amazing neo-classical metal band with great keyboards and amazing guitars.

Garbage

Sort of agree with this, except I'm not refusing to listen to it, I just have no desire whatsoever to hear it. I think this style has had its day, really, and they haven't changed enough over the years to stay interesting.

I didn't have much to say about that made that song work, but I did put it in the Killing Songs.

I dunno probably won't even bother, honestly. I doubt it's even worth listening to once. I used to love COB but they just really lost it over the past couple albums. I never expected them to always put out Hatebreeder or Follow the Reaper but at least... I dunno... Keep making somewhat good music.

This album is actually pretty good. I haven't listened to anything by them since Hate crew deathroll, which to me is one of their best release. I don't really get why people are so fanatic about follow the reaper, it's a good album but it gets old pretty quick. Follow the reaper and Hate crew where the two first albums I ever heard from them so maybe that's part of the reason I didn't get too attached to their early sound (which at it's core is still the same IMO).

"Relentless Reckless Forever is not a great album"...

Yet it gets 80 / 100

Now if I look at how we quote : 80 is outstanding...

I rest my case . This should be more in the ballpark of 60-69 from this remark alone.

Just my 2 cents,
Chris

PS : I can't stomach Children of Boredom anymore anyway... they died to me after follow the ripper, but you knew that already.

I would have to agree. Honestly the scale IS from 1-100 around here and how much does the scale ever really sink below 50 on some pretty meh albums? Is something like a 60 really such a TERRIBLE score? It should mean that the album is above average, 50 being the average, and may be worth checking out, just as an example.

It would really help on a lot of reviews around here if maybe some thought about it more. Of course I always appreciate the reviews here, just sayin'.

I agree that a 1-10 system would be much better. 80/100 = 8/10. which is pretty fucking great.

Regardless, we have all adjusted because we all have the same bias imparted on us from grade school. When someone does come along and rigidly stick to the grading descriptions, it seems out of place.

And Chris, seriously, you are the one to talk with your bi-polar 'this album is so terrible I can't go on living 50/100' to 'this album is 10 times better than heroin injected straight into my brain I want to shout it from the rooftops 100/100'

Chris' scale is something like:
1-60%: metal;
60-100%: power metal.

My rating system is basically:

1-65 - Shit
70-75 - Mediocre
75-80 - A couple great songs and a bunch of filler, or full of really dull songs
80-85 - Either is half full of amazing songs or full of passable ones.
85-90 - Either has a couple mediocre songs, or is full of really good ones
90-95 - Almost all the songs are amazing, maybe one or two that are not perfect
95-100 - Everything is some of the best ever and maybe only a few are not absolute masterpieces.



It's a much more analog scale.