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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Burzum - Fallen
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Nice review, and good score!

I really like this (probably even more than Belus).


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I concur, this album reminds me of Belus, but it's so much more focused and structured much better.

(Sverdanns was such a bizarre inclusion on Belus :lame: )


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It is like Norwegian black metal has been held in ice since 1994 and thawed. Obviously, there are a number of innovations here, but the sound still takes me back. A bit more focused than Belus, and another winner from an extremely talented musician.

Anyone else get a bizarre Garm from the first track on Ulver's first album sort of vibe when Varg began his relaxed 'Jeg Faller' chants?


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If Fallen has to be about something other than the music it contains, maybe it can be the album that makes people finally get the fuck over the whole “Varg killed a dude” thing. He was a murderer in 1993. In 2011 he’s merely a musician making fantastic black metal. May he continue to do just that.


Metalreview.com and lmao.


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Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


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Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?


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traptunderice wrote:
Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?


sounds like a really gay place. :lol:


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So I have heard this band thrown around enough that I want to give them a shot. What would be the best starting point for someone new to the genre?


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SolarSoul25 wrote:
So I have heard this band thrown around enough that I want to give them a shot. What would be the best starting point for someone new to the genre?


Filosofem is really good as far as his pre-prison material. His vocals on his shit earlier might turn you off. His music has always been top notch though. Aske is a really good EP.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?
I was responding to the metalreview.com reviewer. If anything I was kinda glad that this review didn't start off with a Varg disclaimer. Chill, hoss.


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SolarSoul25 wrote:
So I have heard this band thrown around enough that I want to give them a shot. What would be the best starting point for someone new to the genre?


"Det som en gang var" off of the Hvis lyset tar oss album.

Also

"Stemmen Fra Tårnet " off of Aske


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So I have heard this band thrown around enough that I want to give them a shot. What would be the best starting point for someone new to the genre?


I second "Det som en gang var" off Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.

In that hypothetical top 5 of best Norwegian BM tracks I mentioned earlier.

Listen to it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBll5LyMnAw

And just search for 'Jeg Faller' on youtube from this album for something more polished.

I have no desire to discuss Varg the man, but he is a brilliant musician.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?[/quote

Oh my god it's like the worst of a rant by Michael Savage.
*Relapses into a coma. When it comes to his former politics I seriousy doubt he's the schizo weirdo politically isolated loser he was when he was young, he jumped stances with an aberrational propensity that Joe Lieberman would envy. As of lately I don't imagine he's the pseudo-racialist he was in past interviews, though granted I am not that much into Burzum. Besides even the worst notion of egalitarian sweet happy wonderland Utopia, is better than some social Darwin 00ber nationalist isolationist perpetually warbound unregulated Christ republic of America. ]


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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?[/quote

Oh my god it's like the worst of a rant by Michael Savage.
*Relapses into a coma. When it comes to his former politics I seriousy doubt he's the schizo weirdo politically isolated loser he was when he was young, he jumped stances with an aberrational propensity that Joe Lieberman would envy. As of lately I don't imagine he's the pseudo-racialist he was in past interviews, though granted I am not that much into Burzum. Besides even the worst notion of egalitarian sweet happy wonderland Utopia, is better than some social Darwin 00ber nationalist Christ republic. ]


Yeah, whatever you say. I don't listen to that crap, so I wouldn't know.
I don't even know what the hell you are rambling about with "better than some social Darwin 00ber nationalist Christ republic."
Why don't you jackoffs keep your politics where it belongs, in the politics thread.
It gets old and irritating to have every single Burzum thread devolve into the same old bullshit. Yeah, we all know what Varg's said and done in the past, and we all know where everybody stands on it. Do we REALLY have have to go over it all again?

Just another example of how much this site continues to circle the drain (despite some recent excellent reviews) and another reminder why I seldom bother with it anymore.
Whatever, I'm clearly wasting my time; knock yourselves out and turn yet another thread into yet another boring and tiresome circle jerk.
Fuck it, I don't care.

And learn to quote; it's not really that hard.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Nobody really cares that he killed some dude who was kinda fucked up himself, e.g., the pictures of Dead. People care about the fact that he's a racist homophobe, who spouts off stupid shit when given interviews.


Oh give it a rest.
Don't you "he's racist/insert-phobic-here/bigot/right-wing/nut"guys ever get sick of spouting the same tired old bullshit?
We get it; you are soo enlightened and all embracing and all tolerant (as long as it jibes with your own views, of course), and the world should be a wonderful utopian bliss overflowing with milk and honey where if it feels good do it and houses are made of chocolate and cotton-candy, where we are all brothers and sisters sharing everything; sharing, caring for and loving one another hand in hand singing and dancing under rainbows through fields of gently wind-swept daisies while gold runs through the streets and nobody is cold, lonely, angry, discontent, hurt, sad, insulted, injured, left out, disenfranchised, hungry, thirsty, or without everything they could ever need, and there are no borders, races, nations or any of that nasty divisive stuff.

Is this gonna turn into another short-bus special about the usual bullshit, or can we maybe discuss his music for a change?[/quote

Oh my god it's like the worst of a rant by Michael Savage.
*Relapses into a coma. When it comes to his former politics I seriousy doubt he's the schizo weirdo politically isolated loser he was when he was young, he jumped stances with an aberrational propensity that Joe Lieberman would envy. As of lately I don't imagine he's the pseudo-racialist he was in past interviews, though granted I am not that much into Burzum. Besides even the worst notion of egalitarian sweet happy wonderland Utopia, is better than some social Darwin 00ber nationalist Christ republic. ]


Yeah, whatever you say. I don't listen to that crap, so I wouldn't know.
I don't even know what the hell you are rambling about with "better than some social Darwin 00ber nationalist Christ republic."
Why don't you jackoffs keep your politics where it belongs, in the politics thread.
It gets old and irritating to have every single Burzum thread devolve into the same old bullshit. Yeah, we all know what Varg's said and done in the past, and we all know where everybody stands on it. Do we REALLY have have to go over it all again?

Just another example of how much this site continues to circle the drain (despite some recent excellent reviews) and another reminder why I seldom bother with it anymore.
Whatever, I'm clearly wasting my time; knock yourselves out and turn yet another thread into yet another boring and tiresome circle jerk.
Fuck it, I don't care.

And learn to quote; it's not really that hard.


Bahaha you're telling me to keep my politics in the original thread, when you self-righteously attacked Trapt's post under the pretense of being defender of Burzum? That was seriously one of the worst posts I've ever seen from you, granted you make it a habit such as myself to defend your respective point of view, but as you told Fridge in a prior thread don't expect another user to not call you on a 'bullshit post'. My response was as tediously insipid in the same vein as your brilliant diatribe about liberalism, though as you admire Varg, it's rather obvious that instead of some sort of comprehensively assessed post you'd settle on the trite nonsense of cliches. Nausea, Nausea, Nausea


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Keep this thread on Burzum - Fallen from hear on out, or posts will be deleted, thanks.

As for the album and band, I have never been into Burzum myself, never really checked it out properly. But if this is as good as the review claims it to be, should there be a problem starting with this?


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No problem at all, it's probably the most "accessible" Burzum album Varg has released :)


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Yes this is one his easiest albums, only behind Burzum/Aske. A good starting point for all.


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metal_xxx wrote:
Keep this thread on Burzum - Fallen from hear on out, or posts will be deleted, thanks.


Quite. I deliberately didn't mention Varg's politics here because like COTB said, there's not much else to say on the matter. Take that shit to Helheim.

Oh, and "circling the drain" gets a :( from me, COTB. What, you're going to let a few comments put you off? Light-touch moderation works wonderfully around here 99% of the time, and I devote enough of my time to this place already without having to school individual threads all the time.

As others have said, Thom, this is very easy to get into, although there's something to be said for just taking the 'Zum discography chronologically. Working backwards through Fallen and Belus sounds good too.


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