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 Post subject: 'Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)'
PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Deafheaven - Sunbather
Blackened Post-Metal
Quoted: 80 / 100


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:15 pm 
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I think Charles' review says more explicitly what folks' problems with Deafheaven are and that's how they appropriate black metal whilst being hipsters. And this doesn't help: http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/09/17/de ... c-keynote/

Folks who don't listen to metal seem to dig it more than metal folks, in how it presents black metal in a digestable form.
The music is decent, but nothing amazing. I'd rather, put anything on other than this, especially Roads to Judah, which it didn't seem so determined to do light-sounding black metal/shoegaze. Its sound was more blackened shoegaze comparable to Panopticon and others.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:31 pm 
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Amazing band


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:44 am 
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As much I wanted to hate this band for various reasons, most of them already discussed, I rated the album in the decent range of the low 60s. I like the first two full length tracks, with, as Zad noted, the title track being especially strong. Then I get bored by the end of the album.

Zad asks why Drudkh and Alcest retain relative immunity whilst Deafheaven does not? Well, stuff like the internet radio hype and link that trapt posted certainly don't help, but I think there are a few other reasons.

USBM makes certain people, myself semi-included, gag reflexively. Largely because I felt Weakling was terrible, and bands that praised at its altar were bound to exhibit the same tendencies to suck. Obviously, USBM is far more diverse and dynamic than Weakling worship, I'm just offering this as a possible reason for my own initial distaste, and some people's desire to reject this material out of hand.

A better, and more generalized reason is that Alcest and (especially) Drudkh have the traditional crowd's respect for past recordings. If Drudkh wishes to experiment with shoegazey stuff, so what? Forgotten Legends and Autumn Aurora are always there to listen to instead. Traditional metal guys might have disapproved with the sorrowful crooning of Alcest, but also noted Neige's participation through metal-archives in very kosher metal bands like Pest Noire and Forgotten Woods. Old Silver Key was underwhelming musically, as Zad observed, but Roman Saenko and Neige were coming from within the underground metal world to try something currently popular with the non-metal crowd's image of metal. And I do think Drudkh was significantly criticized for their directional change, certainly enough to quickly return to a more traditional Drudkh sound.

Several people on this forum over the years have registered their distaste, or at least disinterest, in Emperor's later direction (thinking of Valefor in particular, but several others long since inactive), but very few of them rejected Emperor's pre-Anthems material out of hand. Perhaps that criticism is muted because Emperor emerged from an identifiable, unquestionably metal background.

Deafheaven as a 'metal band' seems appropriated to enhance its own credibility. I don't think they are frauds, or bad musicians, just somewhat contrived.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:19 am 
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Sunbather is a rather odd name for a metal album, when you think about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
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The amount of hate Sunbather is getting from the basement-dwelling kvlt brigade is both amusing and pathetic. All the same, I don't understand why this is being venerated in some circles, either. I remember listening to The Pecan Tree about a week after this was released, and it was nothing special. Just sounded like Alcest, albeit less striking and with more of a post-rock influence.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
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Its not as transcendentally eminent in the overflowing amount of beauty generated by the Ulver moments of ambience and serenity. Sunbather is truly a standalone album amid a sea of rehashing genre tropes and already tired black metal mediocrity, everytime I see the band's vocalist strut his sexy tight jeans for an Apple I pad commercial I try to hide my stiffy under my tight jeans. The band's life performances are poetry in motion, my thick rimmed glasses get steamy and I have to run out of the Starbucks I was in while the video is playing on my MAC.

Truly an awe inspiring band


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:04 pm 
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hipsters dont go to starbucks


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:09 pm 
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Replace that with Whole Foods then.

Either way, Steve's post was inspiration in motion.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
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true

sometimes when i'm youtubing neurosis live videos on my macbook i have to leave the library's cafe and sit by the fountain because *~emotions~ in public*

one time a girl came up to me and said i look sad and i wiped away a tear and said no i'm experiencing beauty


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:34 pm 
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Don't ever change noodles: you are beauty.


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 Post subject: Re: Deafheaven - Sunbather (#8482)
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did these guys beat me to realizing my dream of becoming the black metal macklemore


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