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Ummmm Well, I thought these guys were just teenie bopper metal. I never even once thought it would be something I would enjoy, but after this review I've gotta at least give it a shot.

Have you listened to it ? Any thoughts ?

This sounds like a much less offensive version of Avenged Sevenfold. Awkwardly radio friendly heavy metal as if Bonfire did a Nickelback album. And here I thought these dudes were like in the Attila vein.

Edit: Nickelback might be a little incendiary, but still, a Nickelback song minus all of the blow jobs in the mud stuff.

I know each reviewer has their own likes and dislikes but how in the hell was that quoted at a 96? Tried listening to the record after reading this review and while it doesn't make me wish I was deaf as well as blind I wouldn't say it deserves to be talked about in the same breath as many other albums quoted in the nineties.

Please define tried ? Anything under 3 full listen isn't trying IMHO.
Just my 2 cents.

[quote="Chris@MetalReviews"][quote="RelentlessOblivion"]I know each reviewer has their own likes and dislikes but how in the hell was that quoted at a 96? Tried listening to the record after reading this review and while it doesn't make me wish I was deaf as well as blind I wouldn't say it deserves to be talked about in the same breath as many other albums quoted in the nineties.[/quote]

Please define tried ? Anything under 3 full listen isn't trying IMHO.
Just my 2 cents.[/quote]
And my 2 cents are you can very well know you're not going to like an album after about 2 songs of it.
3 listens! phew!

I couldn't imagine sitting through this album once, let alone three full listens.

While some albums can be liked immediately, some will require multiple listens, because sometimes your mind isn't ready for something right away...
If you're not willing to put the time that's your choice, I'm just saying you will be losing some great albums that way.

Cheers

Your loss my friend

[quote="Chris@MetalReviews"][quote="DevotedWalnut"]I couldn't imagine sitting through this album once, let alone three full listens.[/quote]

Your loss my friend :)[/quote]


My 17 year old brother and his friends like these guys, I am not losing out on anything.

[quote="Chris@MetalReviews"][quote="The Annoying Frenchman"][quote="Chris@MetalReviews"][quote="RelentlessOblivion"]I know each reviewer has their own likes and dislikes but how in the hell was that quoted at a 96? Tried listening to the record after reading this review and while it doesn't make me wish I was deaf as well as blind I wouldn't say it deserves to be talked about in the same breath as many other albums quoted in the nineties.[/quote]

Please define tried ? Anything under 3 full listen isn't trying IMHO.
Just my 2 cents.[/quote]
And my 2 cents are you can very well know you're not going to like an album after about 2 songs of it.
3 listens! phew![/quote]

While some albums can be liked immediately, some will require multiple listens, because sometimes your mind isn't ready for something right away...
If you're not willing to put the time that's your choice, I'm just saying you will be losing some great albums that way.

Cheers[/quote]

2-3 songs is usually enough for me to get a feel for the record. In that time I can determine whether that album will hold my attention or not. Whilst the three songs I got through weren't offensive to the ear they were also not interesting in any way.

I used to think it took at least five listens to grasp an album, but now I think it takes more like 30 seconds, since that's all you need to figure out if a band has good taste in timbres/riffs/melodies.

anyway yeah this is bad, completely lacks anything resembling life or feeling or creativity

Think you were right originally - for non-metal albums, I find they can take a few listens. For most (nearly all?) metal albums, however, you know pretty quickly if it's up your street.

I'm still a little undecided with how much it has to do with familiarity. I know what I like with metal, so I feel safe turning something off as soon as I hear pop songs/triggery drums/8 string guitars/cheesy singing/etc, whereas with folk or hip-hop I feel inclined to be a little more patient. That said, the stuff I try to be patient with generally doesn't end up sinking in afaik, whereas something like Astronautalis or Alasdair Fraser clicked with me right away. So I'm moving towards the 'instant gut reaction' approach even in styles I'm unfamiliar with.

There are some records that you simply can't judge by listening to the first 30 seconds of music. Does opening track Invaders represent the whole of Maiden's Number of the Beast? I think it differs from band to band and album to album. Sometimes you come back to stuff you didn't like initially and it totally clicks. It took me a while to really like and appreciate black metal after I first heard it back in the day. But I do agree with noodz that there are certain musical traits that will instantly turn you off to a given album.

Another controversial review. Mediocre bands get the most response. Personally, I know what I like right away. Other times, seldomly, will I come back to an album after a noticeable gap and find things which I did not find outstanding previously. It's a real treat.

[quote="Goat"][quote="noodles"]I used to think it took at least five listens to grasp an album, but now I think it takes more like 30 seconds, since that's all you need to figure out if a band has good taste in timbres/riffs/melodies.[/quote]

Think you were right originally - for non-metal albums, I find they can take a few listens. For most (nearly all?) metal albums, however, you know pretty quickly if it's up your street.[/quote]
I think this is crucial here. Most bands aren't reinventing the wheel. Black Veil Brides is rather derivative of the things that came before it. In the same way that most black metal is. The thing is that I like the things that contemporary black metal bands are drawing inspiration from. I don't need to listen to the entirety of Black Veil Brides in order to know if I truly dislike it. I dislike the total vein that it is relying on for its sound. Full listens are only demanded, for me it seems, in things that are similar but different to what I already like (determining the nuances that make me love Ulver and Emperor, but dislike Darkthrone and Burzum) or something that draws from an entirely different style of music than what I'm used to (not necessarily folk like noodz was referring to but stuff like Dysrythmia and Ocrilim require a bit out of me to judge because I'm not super savvy on technical metal).

Never thought i wiould like this but i actually do quite a bit. It's very catchy even if simplistic. The only thing i hate is the emo look of the singer but aside from that this is pretty good. Not sure i would call this metal though even if some parts somewhat resssemble to it.

That said in the more mellow stuff i prefer the new Nightingale to this. Dan Swano is just a fantastic song writer. You guys should review Retribution at some point. Good stuff

I can get that 30 seconds on an album that isn´t the genre you like can be enough..but if not..30 seconds..come on you people are the wine tasters of metal.

Anyway speaking about the album, I haven't been able to get through it, even though I can with almost everything Chris reviews, I guess this guys lack of enough guitar work for me..

Better luck next time I guess.

After Sonata, the last Timmo Tolki and the Russell Allen album I hope Blind Guardian rescues something.

If not we will still have Sammet..

Cheers