Kamelot - One Cold Winter's Night DVD (#3601)

Anonymous · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:49 pm

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Kamelot - One Cold Winter's Night DVD
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Unholy_Prince · **Joined:** Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:32 pm **Posts:** 37

Great DVD, the production and style are wonderful, and they really captured the feeling of being at the concert. The guest appearances are very exciting as well! Definte reccomendation for any Kamelot fan.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:41 pm

What's the best buy if you could only buy one: DVD or CD?

Unholy_Prince · **Joined:** Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:32 pm **Posts:** 37

DVD definately.

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:30 am

I want this DVD bad(as if you didn't know)

MetalStorm · **Posted:** Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:17 am

Update-got the DVD and going to watch it tonight.

Azrael · **Posted:** Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:18 am

here's a track off this DVD:
When the Lights are Down - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-nxMKiT8I

i'm considering getting this for christmas, but i dunno, most of my Kamelot favourites are missing. i won't buy it but i'll see if i can get relative to get it for me

Eyesore · **Posted:** Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:10 am

Azrael wrote:

here's a track off this DVD:
When the Lights are Down - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-nxMKiT8I

i'm considering getting this for christmas, but i dunno, most of my Kamelot favourites are missing. i won't buy it but i'll see if i can get relative to get it for me

Fuck that. I hate it when bands play to backing tracks.

scud · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:34 am **Posts:** 636

Great dvd not cheap should have got the dvd only version like I did with Nightwish End Of An Era as I have never listened to the cds. I would rate it second in my favourite dvds to Nightwish this year.

Ben@MetalReviews · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:12 pm **Posts:** 126

What backing tracks?

noodles · **Posted:** Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:13 am

Ben@MetalReviews wrote:

What backing tracks?

Ken didn't read the review

derncare · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am **Posts:** 731

For Ken's benefit...

"A small choir is utilized (although they are kept hidden from view so as to not clutter the stage I’m assuming)"

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:49 am

I read the review, guys. Those backing vocals in the clip from YouTube are identical to those on the CD, no variation. Backing tracks. Either that or they're studio overdubs.

derncare · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am **Posts:** 731

Actually, I just watched the clip and started wondering the same thing because it sounds like the lead vocalist's voice is actually part of the choir when he himself is not singing, so it seems a bit fishy to me now. Does anyone know if the DVD credits an actual choir or not?

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I was thinking though that there are a number of power and prog bands that use extensive backing vocals or choirs, and only a few actually have band members who can sing fairly decent live harmonies, so what can we really expect? I mean, Blind Guardian's band members do a good job of singing the backing vocals, and their rabid fans singing along to every chorus at full volume helps to recreate the affect. Few bands can actually accomplish this, so the options for most are to eliminate the backing vocals alltogether, accept subpar backing vocals from the band, pay a choir to tour with them, or play backing tracks. For those of us who enjoy the big choruses these bands' studio albums provide, what is the most viable solution if the other band members aren't very good singers?

The_Voice · **Posted:** Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:12 am

derncare wrote:

Actually, I just watched the clip and started wondering the same thing because it sounds like the lead vocalist's voice is actually part of the choir when he himself is not singing, so it seems a bit fishy to me now. Does anyone know if the DVD credits an actual choir or not?

EDIT:

I was thinking though that there are a number of power and prog bands that use extensive backing vocals or choirs, and only a few actually have band members who can sing fairly decent live harmonies, so what can we really expect? I mean, Blind Guardian's band members do a good job of singing the backing vocals, and their rabid fans singing along to every chorus at full volume helps to recreate the affect. Few bands can actually accomplish this, so the options for most are to eliminate the backing vocals alltogether, accept subpar backing vocals from the band, pay a choir to tour with them, or play backing tracks. For those of us who enjoy the big choruses these bands' studio albums provide, what is the most viable solution if the other band members aren't very good singers?

The best backing vocals on a dvd must be of Wasp - The Sting, the bass player can almost sing like Blackie!.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:15 am

I think live should be live. You can't recreate everything done in the studio; a live show must remain different. Why do I want to see a band live when it sounds identical to the album? I want it to feel like it's live, like they're playing it right there, not like they're doing a great job at kareoke.

If you can't recreate big choruses live, then, don't! Make it work some other way.

derncare · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am **Posts:** 731

I agree for the most part. I was just curious about what discussion that would bring up...

Blind Guardian (a band that accepts and excels with their stripped-down live renditions)

VS.

Rhapsody (a band that seems to be only 50% live)

Ben@MetalReviews · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:12 pm **Posts:** 126

There is an actual four or five backing choir people cos the camera shows them form the side. And there's two spread about on either side I think as well. Hell, maybe Ken's right and they used studio overdubs. At least be honest like Testament. I remember leafing through Live At The Fillmore and ithe statement" studio overdubs recorded at ____" I was just like... ehhh whatever.

derncare · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am **Posts:** 731

Ben@MetalReviews wrote:

There is an actual four or five backing choir people cos the camera shows them form the side. And there's two spread about on either side I think as well. Hell, maybe Ken's right and they used studio overdubs. At least be honest like Testament. I remember leafing through Live At The Fillmore and ithe statement" studio overdubs recorded at ____" I was just like... ehhh whatever.

It may be a combination of both, but the more I watched that vid, the more I heard the lead singer's voice amidst the back vocals.

And the Testament thing - :lol:

Anonymous · **Posted:** Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:16 pm

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Kamelot is a complex Power Metal band with slight progressive tendencies that have been kicking around since the late nineties

I'd put it early nineties..

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